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hea a smooth criminal
Ok, this is funny.
hea a smooth criminal
1. Penny was one of three men that restrained Neely. The other two men weren't white... one black & hispanic, and they weren't charged.
In that circumstance Penny was 100% justified in physically restraining Neely. His death was accidental and Penny's prosecution is purely political.
To be fair the other two guys weren't choking him.
The DA isn't challenging that notion though, manslaughter 2nd implies there is no malicious intent to kill someone, just recklessness.
The other two were preventing Neely from being able to have any kind of defense.
They're accessories, and they'd be charged as accessories of manslaughter if they were white.
You can't be accessory for a crime that lacks criminal intent.
Almost no one in this thread has argued that he was wrong for taking action. The problem people have is that he choked him for 3 minutes.In the moment his criminal record wasn't relevant.
He got on the subway and while it was in motion, meaning everyone was possibly his captive, he threatened everyone with physical violence by yelling he wasn't afraid to go back to jail and he's prepared to serve a life sentence.
Think about that, and that doesn't take into account Neely's history of violently assaulting innocents, including a man and woman in their 60s.
In that circumstance Penny was 100% justified in physically restraining Neely. His death was accidental and Penny's prosecution is purely political.
Go ahead, ask me how its political.
How about charging them for 'Civil Rights Violations?'
Like Darek Chauvin's fellow officers on the scene where George Floyd died?
My point being is is the prosecutor wanted to charge them, he'd charge them with anything. Period.
And the reason why he's not charging them is blatantly obvious.
Almost no one in this thread has argued that he was wrong for taking action. The problem people have is that he choked him for 3 minutes.
'Civil Rights Crimes' are, and always have been, vague and have been used only under the weakest of circumstances, like this one.What civil rights did they violated?
They committed no crime, that's blatantly obvious.
It was 3 minutes. The 15 minutes thing came from shit online reporting. 15 minutes was how long it took the cops to get there. The cell phone footage you are talking about starts with the choke already applied and it’s like at least 30 seconds into the video before he releases it. There is no video of the beginning of the incident.Was it 3 minutes? Or 15 minutes?
The specifics of how long the choke was applied have been very sketchy, at best.
Cell phone footage has revealed Penny let the choke go and immediately put Neely on his side. That shows Penny wasn't wrecklessly cranking on the choke for minutes on end.
'Civil Rights Crimes' are, and always have been, vague and have been used only under the weakest of circumstances, like this one.
Yeah, in the eyes of the DA, they committed no crime because they're not white.
It was 3 minutes. The 15 minutes thing came from shit online reporting. 15 minutes was how long it took the cops to get there.
The cell phone footage you are talking about starts with the choke already applied and it’s like at least 30 seconds into the video before he releases it. There is no video of the beginning of the incident.
I kind of feel like you know this though and are just trying score points or something
'Civil Rights Crimes' are, and always have been, vague and have been used only under the weakest of circumstances, like this one.
Yeah, in the eyes of the DA, they committed no crime because they're not white.
Honest question. How do we know it was three minutes if the video only shows 30 seconds? Is that an estimate?It was 3 minutes. The 15 minutes thing came from shit online reporting. 15 minutes was how long it took the cops to get there. The cell phone footage you are talking about starts with the choke already applied and it’s like at least 30 seconds into the video before he releases it. There is no video of the beginning of the incident.
I kind of feel like you know this though and are just trying score points or something
I have yet to find "civil rights crime" under NY State law, care to point out which law could be applied to the other guys?
Care to help me with this one? or are you going to act like the woke idiots you complain about so much?
Unless you're white.You can't be accessory for a crime that lacks criminal intent.
2nd degree manslaughter / involuntary manslaughter.
"Involuntary Manslaughter
Involuntary manslaughter is defined as an unintentional killing that results either from recklessness or criminal negligence or from the commission of a low-level criminal act such as a misdemeanor. Involuntary manslaughter is distinguished from other forms of homicide because it does not require deliberation or premeditation, or even intent. Since these mental states are not required, involuntary manslaughter is the lowest category of homicide."
https://www.justia.com/criminal/offenses/homicide/involuntary-manslaughter/
They can also be charged with the same crime Penny currently is, and that's why they won't be witnesses in his defense at the trial. Intimidation tactic by the prosecution, because if Penny is still found guilty by the jury it makes them far easier to prosecute afterward.
Unless you're white.
Honest question. How do we know it was three minutes if the video only shows 30 seconds? Is that an estimate?
I was being facetious...Its always about race for you guys.
Man you are like the mirror image of a wokey.