Guy advice- Is this girl just stringing me along?

[highkicknomore]

no she is not. she's into me physically...she wants to kiss and fool around all the time. she went after me not knowing how much i make. im not rich.. but i make a healthy income. close to 100k. good for a guy in his twenties.

How much does she make?

It sounds like she's trying to control you.

Also:

1) Grab her hand and put it in your penis.

If she won't, dump that gold digger.

 

[That209]

Seems you're the one who only wanted sex anyway so in reality you're the one messing with her lol. Don't go in a relationship if you just want sex, find somebody else with no feelings involved, don't mess with this girls feelings.

 

[cooks1]

Lol I honestly picture you as a very feminine guy. Sorry if I'm wrong.

Well, I guess that would depend on what you consider feminine. I am 44, 5'11, do my best to keep my weight between 200-300 lbs (currently 216, which is pretty low for me heading into the Superbowl gluttony period) pretty hairy, married with 2 kids, former Div 1 College wrestler, though my record was shit.

If that's feminine to you, then I am your she/he/it.

I don't know how many others consider me feminine. Perhaps the fact that I am older, and have lived and worked all over the world (Canada, England, Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Germany) gives me a different perspective.

 

[Bolshevik***]

Virgins are the best, maybe not for a one night stand, but for a relationship or a marriage? Are you kidding me, how are they not the best.

-They're putty in your hands, you will 100% shape their sexuality, not a bunch of random retards from their past.
-She'll have no taboos sexually, unless you wind up giving her some.
-Women bond with their 1st in a way that the "runners up" can't really replicate. Unless you're much better sexually....but all things being equal, that 1st is gonna impact her life several times more than her 5th or 50th.
-Studies have shown that the fewer past sexual partners a woman has the least likely it is she'll sustain a marriage. It's like a piece of tape, you stick it on everything in the house...it'll lose it's ability to stick.
-To my final point point yeah you'll have to teach her, so what? You won't have any barriers, you'll be able to shape her however you like and she'll be a well oiled machine finely attuned to pleasing you and only you, other dudes won't even factor in, because you'll be her only sexual priority. If the relationship is solid she'll be stuck to you like white on rice and do everrything to keep you happy.


It's really hilarious how feminazis have brainwashed guy's minds. Putting down virgin females? They're the fucking holy grail. Ask any man with his nuts intact privately who they'd rather wife a woman who's only ever been with him or the town bicycle. It's obvious what pmost dudes are gonna pick.

So obvious that women routinely are turning their real numbers into fractions lol, so much so that even movies are joking about it saying you have to multiply the number they give you by 3, 5 whatever.

You know, there are plenty of women who are neither virgins nor the town bicycle, but somewhere delightfully in between.

Women who have had sex enough to know exactly what they like and what gets them off, and have some idea of what excites a man, yet have not had baseball bats shoved up their ass, been shat upon, and are completely unaware of bestiality and necrophilia.

They really enjoy steamy dirty sex, but only have it in the context of monogamous relationships, which most people have a few of before they meet the person they are going to marry.

And I notice that like a typical misogynist, you have no inclination whatsoever to hold yourself to the same standard.

This all implies that virgins are capable of obtaining the skills that a more experienced woman may already have. Would you rather have Lebron James on your basketball team or some athletic looking high school kid who could end up having no coordination and suck at sports?

Suggesting that because you're their first they will do anything and everything is also laughable, hell convincing a girl to do anal (who hasn't before) is not easy, so why would convincing a virgin to do even worse s*it be easier? Also, what if YOU suck at sex, and ruin the experience for her so she never wants to do it or do it rarely, or thinks that there are other guys who could do it better than you? You're assuming that since they have no one to compare it to that they will just conclude that its amazing.. that is silly.

The other stuff about marriage I have no disagreement with because its statistically true.

excellent points by all of you.

if i may add a little: there are costs and benefits to both situations.

for example, if you're in a relationship with a virgin and things don't work out, there's an excellent chance she'll go psycho on you. then again, while you're in the relationship, she'll probably let you get away with more things (like being an asshole when you feel like it). i've also heard that shortly after girls have sex for the first time, they want to do it all the time (not sure if that's because they enjoy it so much, or because they want to get good at it) either way it's a plus.

a counterargument for the "experienced" women: they might be so set in their ways, they won't want to change their routine if they're doing something you don't particularly like. also, just because they have lots of experience doesn't mean that they're very comfortable and open, so they might not let you know what they like and how they like it, so instead of letting you figure it out, they're more liable to move on to someone else. a virgin would not normally end a relationship like that.

 

[electricsheep81]

she's probably waiting for some STD to get taken care of.

you better double wrap it, when she opens the gate.

 

[Gaijin36]

I really appreciate a girl that don't throw some vagina at everybody ask for it
But in this case all the blah blah about teh sex, fav positions and so on is just fucking annoying

Play the holy virgin or play teh sex demon, don't bother with the worse part of both worlds :icon_chee

Fair enough. I get what your saying...that is kind of messed up. Another poster hit in it on the head, next time kindly rebuke her and explain to her you would rather not do anything physical as it is really frustrating to be left all worked up.

 

[Bolshevik***]

she's probably waiting for some STD to get taken care of.

you better double wrap it, when she opens the gate.

condom on condom would create a friction that will most likely lead to a tear.

 

[Rhood]

Nope she hasn't. This mostly happens when we start talking about sex. Id normally go with that route but her parents are super religous. Id be worried of pushing fast and putting her off.

super religious parents eh?
I bet she's brainwashed with the old fashion mentality.

If I were you, I would not take her seriously.
You are investing too much time & money into her, that's your problem.
Start dating other women, and just string her along on the side when you have nothing else to do.
A girl like that should be ranked #5 on your priority list.

 

[Livenlearn]

OP sounds like a jackass.

She is unsure. He expects to waltz right in and just be able to bang her because he can pay for food? She was feeding herself long before he came along.

I wouldn't be surprised if she is tossing out the mixed messages because she's afraid he'll leave unless he gets sex RIGHT NOW REALLY SOON OMG!!! And she is totally right, because he has said as much.

OP. Leave this girl alone. You are shit for her. If you don't like her enough to wait for when she is truly ready, then you don't like her enough to be having sex with her.

 

[Bolshevik***]

OP sounds like a jackass.

She is unsure. He expects to waltz right in and just be able to bang her because he can pay for food? She was feeding herself long before he came along.

I wouldn't be surprised if she is tossing out the mixed messages because she's afraid he'll leave unless he gets sex RIGHT NOW REALLY SOON OMG!!! And she is totally right, because he has said as much.

OP. Leave this girl alone. You are shit for her. If you don't like her enough to wait for when she is truly ready, then you don't like her enough to be having sex with her.

then she'll go on to have sex with the next guy she meets who actually tries to engage her in sex instead of waiting for her to make the first move.

super religious parents eh?
I bet she's brainwashed with the old fashion mentality.

If I were you, I would not take her seriously.
You are investing too much time & money into her, that's your problem.
Start dating other women, and just string her along on the side when you have nothing else to do.
A girl like that should be ranked #5 on your priority list.

i've found that a lot of girls with super religious parents will actually have lots of sex just to spite them.

 

[Street Level]

"Oh, I know it's pretty baby, but I didn't take it out for air."*

Love that movie.

 

[Street Level]

Look her in the eye and say, "look hun, I need to go about my fuckin' bitches and gettin money. Now, I need to get the money, you going to let me fuck, bitch?".

 

[Gunny]

Virgins are incredibly overrated.

No barriers? I don't think you've actually been with a virgin. They have more barriers, not less. How do you think they avoided having sex for so long? Its time consuming to be breaking through all those barriers and getting them to open up.

They will suck at sex for a while. You will have to be patient. Depending on her attitude, she might be willing to learn from you or be a pain about it and still suck. You'll have to handle her not being comfortable with her body. The worst part is that in the beginning, she probably won't care for sex. You'll know its the greatest thing ever and she'll be like "eh." It will take a while to figure out what gets her off and the sex won't be nearly as good until this happens. This is why I prefer a woman who knows what she likes off the bat.

So assuming everything went well and you trained a perfect freak, then what? What's the statistical probability of a relationship leading to marriage? You'll probably end up breaking up and then some other dude will be eating happily off of all that time you invested training her. If you're the only guy she's had, best believe that somewhere inside her she's wondering what other guys are like. Its just not worth investing in.

I'm responding to you specifically on this but my answer could just as well go to any of the posters making broad generalizations on virgins. There are simply no rules as to how virgins (or experienced women for that matter) will respond to sex. It's entirely about the individual. I had the privilege of a short term fling with a 25 year old virgin girl. She was a bit of a strange bird but had a ridiculously awesome body and was an absolute sexual freak - down for anything I wanted from her. She was too weird to GF and my unwillingness to commit resulted in it ending very badly but for a period I had a ball. On the other hand, when I was younger I had virgin girlfriends who were an absolute pain in the neck about sex. I also hooked up with some slutty girls who were frigid and lifeless in the sack. I'd warn not to look at a girls experience as an indication of their sexual merit. I have heard, on the other hand, that a girl's relationship with her father is a better indicator of how she'll be in bed. The argument being that a girl who has a good relationship with her dad is likely to be more comfortable with men and thus more open while girls with problematic relationships with their fathers tend to be far more guarded around men - mind you they may be total sluts but not really engaged and not really enjoying their sluttiness.

 

[cooks1]

I'm responding to you specifically on this but my answer could just as well go to any of the posters making broad generalizations on virgins. There are simply no rules as to how virgins (or experienced women for that matter) will respond to sex. It's entirely about the individual. I had the privilege of a short term fling with a 25 year old virgin girl. She was a bit of a strange bird but had a ridiculously awesome body and was an absolute sexual freak - down for anything I wanted from her. She was too weird to GF and my unwillingness to commit resulted in it ending very badly but for a period I had a ball. On the other hand, when I was younger I had virgin girlfriends who were an absolute pain in the neck about sex. I also hooked up with some slutty girls who were frigid and lifeless in the sack. I'd warn not to look at a girls experience as an indication of their sexual merit. I have heard, on the other hand, that a girl's relationship with her father is a better indicator of how she'll be in bed. The argument being that a girl who has a good relationship with her dad is likely to be more comfortable with men and thus more open while girls with problematic relationships with their fathers tend to be far more guarded around men - mind you they may be total sluts but not really engaged and not really enjoying their sluttiness.

Fuck. You mean to tell me that the wonderful relationship I am currently cultivating with my 2 daughters is going to turn them into sexual freaks? I might want to rethink this shit.

 

[Gunny]

Fuck. You mean to tell me that the wonderful relationship I am currently cultivating with my 2 daughters is going to turn them into sexual freaks? I might want to rethink this shit.

It's not my own theory but I will elaborate on my own experience. I had two girlfriends who had fathers who had walked out on the family - one was pretty slutty and would sleep with just about anyone however she was phenomenally bad at sex (think slutty and prudish with all sorts of hang-ups rolled into one). The other was just prudish - always at a distance and grew increasingly disinterested in sex in its entirety. Now, ten years after we broke up she's still single and resentful of me and incapable of moving on. I also had a high school GF whose father was present in her life but was all kinds of fucked up. This guy was a Vietnam vet who suffered from shell shock, weighed +400 pounds, had all sorts of his own childhood issues (his mom had jumped the fence and so he was raised by an abusive "father" who knew that he wasn't really his own kid). All told this GF had a father who was a complete headcase. She was one of the virgins I described as a total prudish pain-in-the-neck about sex. Anyway, we break up before she goes to college (thank god) and after her first year we're talking and she confides that she's totally fucked-up and that she slept with the 11 of the men's basketball team her freshman year. Then after college she gets a job teaching in a high school and get after being caught fooling around with a student in the buys locker room. She's now been married and divorced.

On the other hand, the strange bird I described as a sexual freak who enjoyed everything had a very good relationship with her father. Remember, she also remained a virgin till she was 25. My wife also has a good relationship with her father and was a virgin when we met. So the bit on the father is supposed to reference a girl's ability to enjoy sex but not a predictor of promiscuity. I'll admit though; being father to a daughter as well I don't like to spend too much time thinking about the subject.

 

[cooks1]

It's not my own theory but I will elaborate on my own experience. I had two girlfriends who had fathers who had walked out on the family - one was pretty slutty and would sleep with just about anyone however she was phenomenally bad at sex (think slutty and prudish with all sorts of hang-ups rolled into one). The other was just prudish - always at a distance and grew increasingly disinterested in sex in its entirety. Now, ten years after we broke up she's still single and resentful of me and incapable of moving on. I also had a high school GF whose father was present in her life but was all kinds of fucked up. This guy was a Vietnam vet who suffered from shell shock, weighed +400 pounds, had all sorts of his own childhood issues (his mom had jumped the fence and so he was raised by an abusive "father" who knew that he wasn't really his own kid). All told this GF had a father who was a complete headcase. She was one of the virgins I described as a total prudish pain-in-the-neck about sex. Anyway, we break up before she goes to college (thank god) and after her first year we're talking and she confides that she's totally fucked-up and that she slept with the 11 of the men's basketball team her freshman year. Then after college she gets a job teaching in a high school and get after being caught fooling around with a student in the buys locker room. She's now been married and divorced.

On the other hand, the strange bird I described as a sexual freak who enjoyed everything had a very good relationship with her father. Remember, she also remained a virgin till she was 25. My wife also has a good relationship with her father and was a virgin when we met. So the bit on the father is supposed to reference a girl's ability to enjoy sex but not a predictor of promiscuity. I'll admit though; being father to a daughter as well I don't like to spend too much time thinking about the subject.

Talk about your conundrums. Be a great dad and your daughter will have sex much later in life, but will be a dirty freak. Be a shitty Dad and she will have sex earlier and more often, but suck at it.

Neither option really appeals to me. But I guess I will stick with option 1 as it will be less likely to be presented with a grandchild ahead of schedule.

 

[Lustercross]

It's not my own theory but I will elaborate on my own experience. I had two girlfriends who had fathers who had walked out on the family - one was pretty slutty and would sleep with just about anyone however she was phenomenally bad at sex (think slutty and prudish with all sorts of hang-ups rolled into one). The other was just prudish - always at a distance and grew increasingly disinterested in sex in its entirety. Now, ten years after we broke up she's still single and resentful of me and incapable of moving on. I also had a high school GF whose father was present in her life but was all kinds of fucked up. This guy was a Vietnam vet who suffered from shell shock, weighed +400 pounds, had all sorts of his own childhood issues (his mom had jumped the fence and so he was raised by an abusive "father" who knew that he wasn't really his own kid). All told this GF had a father who was a complete headcase. She was one of the virgins I described as a total prudish pain-in-the-neck about sex. Anyway, we break up before she goes to college (thank god) and after her first year we're talking and she confides that she's totally fucked-up and that she slept with the 11 of the men's basketball team her freshman year. Then after college she gets a job teaching in a high school and get after being caught fooling around with a student in the buys locker room. She's now been married and divorced.

On the other hand, the strange bird I described as a sexual freak who enjoyed everything had a very good relationship with her father. Remember, she also remained a virgin till she was 25. My wife also has a good relationship with her father and was a virgin when we met. So the bit on the father is supposed to reference a girl's ability to enjoy sex but not a predictor of promiscuity. I'll admit though; being father to a daughter as well I don't like to spend too much time thinking about the subject.

I think you are right about every girl being different. My gf was a virgin when we met but now she is very freaky and does anything I want to satisfy me. The thing is though, that her dad was never in her life. So yeah, that kind of makes your theory not seem very valid. It does however, show that your correct on the first point.

 

[Kophens**]

hang in there bro.

 

[sambo fighter]

Where you went wrong was agreeing to be this girls bf before she was giving you all the things that you want in an adult relationship. If you hadn't agreed to be exclusive and she made you wait 2 months while you dated casually, that's no big deal, because you could be seeing other girls too. But you already fucked up that option.

I once wasted 4-5 months on a "girlfriend" and never got any. She just kept stringing me along. I kept thinking "I'm almost there, I cant quit now. Ive invested too much time". I felt like I was the bad for wanting to get physical and she was good for holding out. I thought that I'd be an asshole if I dumped her just for that. But that thinking was totally wrong. Eventually I realized the following:

You have the right to pursue the type of relationship that you want. Whether its good conversation, shared interests, shared beliefs, or sex it doesn't matter. If you are not getting what you want from this "girlfriend" then dont waste your time. This isnt a girlfriend worth having.

Most girlfriends bang their boyfriends. She is the weird one.

If I were you I would take these other guys advice and advance until she stops you when you are fooling around. If shes not giving you what you want within a couple more weeks then dump her. And NEVER get exclusive with a girl again before you close the deal.

 

[fightdonttweet]

Lol my girlfriend tells me everyday that she wants to marry me so the percentage is pretty high. Enjoy the higher percentage chance of getting an STD tho lol

That's a ridiculous assertion. Having safe sex, avoiding sluts, and getting your partner tested removes STDs from the equation. lmao your girlfriend tells you she wants to marry you so that somehow trumps the fact that most relationships don't last a lifetime? Saying something is one thing, doing it is entirely different.