Guy advice- Is this girl just stringing me along?

[Bolshevik***]

Yeah i learned that the hard way lol

it takes them forever to get over it, they have an idealized/romanticized version of what they were, they think it was the love of their life...

 

[Fat Abbot]

Virgins are the best, maybe not for a one night stand, but for a relationship or a marriage? Are you kidding me, how are they not the best.

-They're putty in your hands, you will 100% shape their sexuality, not a bunch of random retards from their past.
-She'll have no taboos sexually, unless you wind up giving her some.
-Women bond with their 1st in a way that the "runners up" can't really replicate. Unless you're much better sexually....but all things being equal, that 1st is gonna impact her life several times more than her 5th or 50th.
-Studies have shown that the fewer past sexual partners a woman has the least likely it is she'll sustain a marriage. It's like a piece of tape, you stick it on everything in the house...it'll lose it's ability to stick.
-To my final point point yeah you'll have to teach her, so what? You won't have any barriers, you'll be able to shape her however you like and she'll be a well oiled machine finely attuned to pleasing you and only you, other dudes won't even factor in, because you'll be her only sexual priority. If the relationship is solid she'll be stuck to you like white on rice and do everrything to keep you happy.


It's really hilarious how feminazis have brainwashed guy's minds. Putting down virgin females? They're the fucking holy grail. Ask any man with his nuts intact privately who they'd rather wife a woman who's only ever been with him or the town bicycle. It's obvious what pmost dudes are gonna pick.

So obvious that women routinely are turning their real numbers into fractions lol, so much so that even movies are joking about it saying you have to multiply the number they give you by 3, 5 whatever.

 

[BrokenCouch]

unless you are giving her money/gifts and shit, then there's nothing really benefiting her by stringing you along. unless she's juggling other guys or something.

stringing along implies they are using you for something. in cases like this, it's either for favors, gifts, straight up money/support, or other guys. that's all it can be.

 

[gloxx]

Well, let me ask you this. Has she posted you up yet? If she has not posted you up yet, my guess is you have already left sex on the table a few times. You need to keep going until she stops you. Don't get me wrong. STOP when she stops you. And don't be a whiny little bitch about it she does. But it's kinda like MMA rules. You keep going till you are told to stop by the ref.

Girls TALK about sex. That's what they do. Guys are supposed to initiate sex. It sounds to me like you are waiting for some kind of tacit agreement that before a romantic interlude starts, it will end in sex. Worst idea ever. Nothing makes a girl less turned on. It is the UNCERTAINTY and ANTICIPATION that gets them excited.

Also, when you are dealing with a woman that is inexperienced (this one is) a lot of guys make the mistake of pulling the trigger a little early and moving to insert the peen before the chick is good and turned on. You can get away with this with experienced women, because they understand that after a couple dozen thrusts, they will be into it. Not so with Newbies. They need to be sufficiently turned on physically to override all the mental games they are playing with themselves. Twiddle that twat until you can ring out her underwear. THEN go in for the kill.

Nope she hasn't. This mostly happens when we start talking about sex. Id normally go with that route but her parents are super religous. Id be worried of pushing fast and putting her off.

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

Didn't read the OP. If you have to ask, then the answer is yes.

 

[cooks1]

Putting down virgin females? They're the fucking holy grail. Ask any man with his nuts intact privately who they'd rather wife a woman who's only ever been with him or the town bicycle. It's obvious what pmost dudes are gonna pick.

You know, there are plenty of women who are neither virgins nor the town bicycle, but somewhere delightfully in between.

Women who have had sex enough to know exactly what they like and what gets them off, and have some idea of what excites a man, yet have not had baseball bats shoved up their ass, been shat upon, and are completely unaware of bestiality and necrophilia.

They really enjoy steamy dirty sex, but only have it in the context of monogamous relationships, which most people have a few of before they meet the person they are going to marry.

And I notice that like a typical misogynist, you have no inclination whatsoever to hold yourself to the same standard.

 

[cooks1]

Nope she hasn't. This mostly happens when we start talking about sex. Id normally go with that route but her parents are super religous. Id be worried of pushing fast and putting her off.

I would say pushing too fast and putting her off would be a concern if you have only been out once or twice. But you have been with her for 3-4 weeks now, and, most critically, you indicated in your original post that she has her own apartment.

And her super religious parents should not be a factor either. That means little. Some of my most memorable experiences in my teens came at the hands (and mouth) of the daughter of one of the most prominent rabbi's in the city. And no, I am not jewish.

 

[Striderxdj]

Virgins are the best, maybe not for a one night stand, but for a relationship or a marriage? Are you kidding me, how are they not the best.

-They're putty in your hands, you will 100% shape their sexuality, not a bunch of random retards from their past.
-She'll have no taboos sexually, unless you wind up giving her some.
-Women bond with their 1st in a way that the "runners up" can't really replicate. Unless you're much better sexually....but all things being equal, that 1st is gonna impact her life several times more than her 5th or 50th.
-Studies have shown that the fewer past sexual partners a woman has the least likely it is she'll sustain a marriage. It's like a piece of tape, you stick it on everything in the house...it'll lose it's ability to stick.
-To my final point point yeah you'll have to teach her, so what? You won't have any barriers, you'll be able to shape her however you like and she'll be a well oiled machine finely attuned to pleasing you and only you, other dudes won't even factor in, because you'll be her only sexual priority. If the relationship is solid she'll be stuck to you like white on rice and do everrything to keep you happy.


It's really hilarious how feminazis have brainwashed guy's minds. Putting down virgin females? They're the fucking holy grail. Ask any man with his nuts intact privately who they'd rather wife a woman who's only ever been with him or the town bicycle. It's obvious what pmost dudes are gonna pick.

So obvious that women routinely are turning their real numbers into fractions lol, so much so that even movies are joking about it saying you have to multiply the number they give you by 3, 5 whatever.

This all implies that virgins are capable of obtaining the skills that a more experienced woman may already have. Would you rather have Lebron James on your basketball team or some athletic looking high school kid who could end up having no coordination and suck at sports?

Suggesting that because you're their first they will do anything and everything is also laughable, hell convincing a girl to do anal (who hasn't before) is not easy, so why would convincing a virgin to do even worse s*it be easier? Also, what if YOU suck at sex, and ruin the experience for her so she never wants to do it or do it rarely, or thinks that there are other guys who could do it better than you? You're assuming that since they have no one to compare it to that they will just conclude that its amazing.. that is silly.

The other stuff about marriage I have no disagreement with because its statistically true.

 

[Fat Abbot]

The same standard? Of course not, it's a womens standard. I have a ****.

Their are different standards for men and women. Men want "purity" Women in general want someome who's desired by many women and slayed a lot of pussy. That's why a lot of men multiply their numbers and a lot of women perform division on theirs. If they both were held to the same standards one wouldn't be trying to make theirs higher while the other one tries to lower.

Even a girl that has had 2 or 3 other partners, you put that against a virgin with all other things being equal and it's still pretty obvious what most dudes are gonna pick. That's just how most dudes (not all) are wired, it's how I'm wired. Just being honest.

 

[Fat Abbot]

This all implies that virgins are capable of obtaining the skills that a more experienced woman may already have. Would you rather have Lebron James on your basketball team or some athletic looking high school kid who could end up having no coordination and suck at sports?

I'm a pretty good "talent scout."

Suggesting that because you're their first they will do anything and everything is also laughable, hell convincing a girl to do anal (who hasn't before) is not easy, so why would convincing a virgin to do even worse s*it be easier? Also, what if YOU suck at sex, and ruin the experience for her so she never wants to do it or do it rarely, or thinks that there are other guys who could do it better than you? You're assuming that since they have no one to compare it to that they will just conclude that its amazing.. that is silly.

Take all the virgins in the world, take all the promiscuous. I guarantee it'd be easier to convice the ones that have only fucked you to do he freaky stuff. The promiscuous ones in a lot of cases have tried to do shit, or their bf's tried and did it in a fucked up way jamming it her ass in randomly with no lube etc. Taboo formed.

A clean slate is always better, there are no past negative experiernces of anything sexually to give her any bias.

I've convinced a few girls in my time to do anal that hadnt done it before and some far freakier shit as well and these women had histories. Someone minus the taboos with a fresh slate would would be easier.

And I'm not assuming anything. I know I'm good at sex, so that ain't an issue. And since you agree with the marriage part which shows that a woman bonds better with her only, that if a man is good he'd want a virgin as well, it just makes sense if you want a better more dedicated partner.

 

[HunterIII]

When in doubt, whip it out

 

[Jar of Flies]

Are you trying to make the first move and she's stopping you? If not then she's probably waiting on you

 

[fightdonttweet]

Virgins are the best, maybe not for a one night stand, but for a relationship or a marriage? Are you kidding me, how are they not the best.

-They're putty in your hands, you will 100% shape their sexuality, not a bunch of random retards from their past.
-She'll have no taboos sexually, unless you wind up giving her some.
-Women bond with their 1st in a way that the "runners up" can't really replicate. Unless you're much better sexually....but all things being equal, that 1st is gonna impact her life several times more than her 5th or 50th.
-Studies have shown that the fewer past sexual partners a woman has the least likely it is she'll sustain a marriage. It's like a piece of tape, you stick it on everything in the house...it'll lose it's ability to stick.
-To my final point point yeah you'll have to teach her, so what? You won't have any barriers, you'll be able to shape her however you like and she'll be a well oiled machine finely attuned to pleasing you and only you, other dudes won't even factor in, because you'll be her only sexual priority. If the relationship is solid she'll be stuck to you like white on rice and do everrything to keep you happy.


It's really hilarious how feminazis have brainwashed guy's minds. Putting down virgin females? They're the fucking holy grail. Ask any man with his nuts intact privately who they'd rather wife a woman who's only ever been with him or the town bicycle. It's obvious what pmost dudes are gonna pick.

Virgins are incredibly overrated.

No barriers? I don't think you've actually been with a virgin. They have more barriers, not less. How do you think they avoided having sex for so long? Its time consuming to be breaking through all those barriers and getting them to open up.

They will suck at sex for a while. You will have to be patient. Depending on her attitude, she might be willing to learn from you or be a pain about it and still suck. You'll have to handle her not being comfortable with her body. The worst part is that in the beginning, she probably won't care for sex. You'll know its the greatest thing ever and she'll be like "eh." It will take a while to figure out what gets her off and the sex won't be nearly as good until this happens. This is why I prefer a woman who knows what she likes off the bat.

So assuming everything went well and you trained a perfect freak, then what? What's the statistical probability of a relationship leading to marriage? You'll probably end up breaking up and then some other dude will be eating happily off of all that time you invested training her. If you're the only guy she's had, best believe that somewhere inside her she's wondering what other guys are like. Its just not worth investing in.

 

[cooks1]

Virgins are incredibly overrated.

No barriers? I don't think you've actually been with a virgin. They have more barriers, not less. How do you think they avoided having sex for so long? Its time consuming to be breaking through all those barriers and getting them to open up.

They will suck at sex for a while. You will have to be patient. Depending on her attitude, she might be willing to learn from you or be a pain about it and still suck. You'll have to handle her not being comfortable with her body. The worst part is that in the beginning, she probably won't care for sex. You'll know its the greatest thing ever and she'll be like "eh." It will take a while to figure out what gets her off and the sex won't be nearly as good until this happens. This is why I prefer a woman who knows what she likes off the bat.

So assuming everything went well and you trained a perfect freak, then what? What's the statistical probability of a relationship leading to marriage? You'll probably end up breaking up and then some other dude will be eating happily off of all that time you invested training her. If you're the only guy she's had, best believe that somewhere inside her she's wondering what other guys are like. Its just not worth investing in.

Precisely this. Virgins are a lot of work for a fairly low probability of pay-off.

 

[FREE BEER!]

Tell her you're a hopeless romantic and that you want to make love to her in a dumpster.

 

[MortalWombat]

"Accidentally" leave this thread open on your computer and ask her to look up the directions to the next 3 hat restaurant you're patronising.

Conversation ensues.

 

[cooks1]

I'm a pretty good "talent scout."

Being a good talent scout is useless with virgins. What matters is whether you are a good talent developer or not. Michael Jordan sucked at basketball until someone taught him. Likewise, everyone sucks at sex until they are taught. And unlike basketball, pretty much everyone can be great at sex given the right instruction. And this can happen at any time, whether they have never 'picked up a ball' or if they have played a few games already. Your idiocy shines through with alarming regularity.

Take all the virgins in the world, take all the promiscuous. I guarantee it'd be easier to convice the ones that have only fucked you to do he freaky stuff. The promiscuous ones in a lot of cases have tried to do shit, or their bf's tried and did it in a fucked up way jamming it her ass in randomly with no lube etc. Taboo formed.

Lunacy. First of all, a pretty large % of women who are virgins into their 20's are virgins by choice. Because pretty much any chick, no matter how fugly, that want's a dick can get one. And the main reason a woman remains a virgin by choice is religious reasons. Now, I am not saying a woman who is genuinely religious will not be an excellent sex partner. Just that the Bible has pretty clear guidelines on things like sodomy and threesomes, and that is going to hamper the freaky portfolio somewhat. And a chick that has only had one sex partner can be rammed up the but sans lube just as easily as a slut.

And you seem to think that only bad sexual experiences happen to women who are not virgins. The opposite is true. It is several orders of magnitude easier to have a threesome or but sex with a women who has experienced those things before and loved it than one who has known only you.

Finally, you seem to assume that every woman who is not a virgin has somehow done everything there is to be done. Not by a long shot. Most women that have had their fair share of sex partners have ventured very little outside the traditional wheelhouse. Maybe something outdoors, in a kitchen, car, or bathroom stall, but they don't have a fucking dungeon somewhere.

Honestly, I am beginning to question how much experience you have had with either virgins or sexually experienced women.

 

[Lustercross]

This all implies that virgins are capable of obtaining the skills that a more experienced woman may already have. Would you rather have Lebron James on your basketball team or some athletic looking high school kid who could end up having no coordination and suck at sports?

Suggesting that because you're their first they will do anything and everything is also laughable, hell convincing a girl to do anal (who hasn't before) is not easy, so why would convincing a virgin to do even worse s*it be easier? Also, what if YOU suck at sex, and ruin the experience for her so she never wants to do it or do it rarely, or thinks that there are other guys who could do it better than you? You're assuming that since they have no one to compare it to that they will just conclude that its amazing.. that is silly.

The other stuff about marriage I have no disagreement with because its statistically true.

If your masculine then she will do what you want to make you happy (as long as your not a dooshbag of course). If your a pussy then she won't lol.

 

[Lustercross]

Precisely this. Virgins are a lot of work for a fairly low probability of pay-off.

Lol I honestly picture you as a very feminine guy. Sorry if I'm wrong.

 

[Lustercross]

Virgins are incredibly overrated.

No barriers? I don't think you've actually been with a virgin. They have more barriers, not less. How do you think they avoided having sex for so long? Its time consuming to be breaking through all those barriers and getting them to open up.

They will suck at sex for a while. You will have to be patient. Depending on her attitude, she might be willing to learn from you or be a pain about it and still suck. You'll have to handle her not being comfortable with her body. The worst part is that in the beginning, she probably won't care for sex. You'll know its the greatest thing ever and she'll be like "eh." It will take a while to figure out what gets her off and the sex won't be nearly as good until this happens. This is why I prefer a woman who knows what she likes off the bat.

So assuming everything went well and you trained a perfect freak, then what? What's the statistical probability of a relationship leading to marriage? You'll probably end up breaking up and then some other dude will be eating happily off of all that time you invested training her. If you're the only guy she's had, best believe that somewhere inside her she's wondering what other guys are like. Its just not worth investing in.

Lol my girlfriend tells me everyday that she wants to marry me so the percentage is pretty high. Enjoy the higher percentage chance of getting an STD tho lol