Gustafsson vs Shogun 2

[Minnja]

It wasnt a blow out at all. Shogun won round 2...and round 1 couldve really gone either way. Under the 10 point round by round scoring system Shogun very well couldve edged Gus out regardless of the fact Shogun lost round 3 big. Those first 2 rounds.

Shogun doesnt get the credit he deserves. When he losses Its always some bullshit like "Shogun was blown out" or when Shogun dominates "Shogun wasnt really that dominant. Close fight"

Anyway, NO...Shogun vs Gus 2 should not happen...ever. Its a pointless fight. Shogun deserves either warm up fights or legend fights from here on out

Wtf are you talking about? Shogun has a lot of hardcore fans. Were you not here when they discredited every single loss he had up until Jones crushed him? You can probably find threads where people talk about how he had no "legit" losses prior to the Jones fight.

 

[MitMcl]

First fight was not remotely close.

 

[Boxingislife]

It wasnt a blow out at all. Shogun won round 2...and round 1 couldve really gone either way. Under the 10 point round by round scoring system Shogun very well couldve edged Gus out regardless of the fact Shogun lost round 3 big. Those first 2 rounds.

Shogun doesnt get the credit he deserves. When he losses Its always some bullshit like "Shogun was blown out" or when Shogun dominates "Shogun wasnt really that dominant. Close fight"

Anyway, NO...Shogun vs Gus 2 should not happen...ever. Its a pointless fight. Shogun deserves either warm up fights or legend fights from here on out

EDIT:

Even Shogun's loss to Jones gets exeggerated to hell and back

Shogun landed some.good right leads and 1-2s on the feet. Shogun got up from Jones 1st TD and took Jones back multiple times by side stepping/slipping a majority of Jones' spinning attacks

That fight was simply a ground domination where Jones used his immense strength and size advantages to hold Shogun down and beat him up with ground and pound

Plus Shogun coming off surgery was not in shape and gassed out. Plus Shogun taking the fight on short notice didnt have time to develop a gameplan or any plan Bs

Thats why Sogun kept trying for the same sweep and kept making little errors like droping for a leg after taking Jones back despite it not working the 1st time. Shogun just didnt have time to prepare for any plan Bs

A healthy prepared Shogun would have 100% done A LOT BETTER against Jones.

Rampage was fighting very competitively with Jones. Shogun absolutely could have too

The Shogun who fought Jones was simply Shogun at HIS WORST. Health and gameplans are everything. Shogun with both couldve beaten Jones that night.

 

[Minnja]

EDIT:

Even Shogun's loss to Jones gets exeggerated to hell and back

Shogun landed some.good right leads and 1-2s on the feet. Shogun got up from Jones 1st TD and took Jones back multiple times by side stepping/slipping a majority of Jones' spinning attacks

That fight was simply a ground domination where Jones used his immense strength and size advantages to hold Shogun down and beat him up with ground and pound

Plus Shogun coming off surgery was not in shape and gassed out. Plus Shogun taking the fight on short notice didnt have time to develop a gameplan or any plan Bs

Thats why Sogun kept trying for the same sweep and kept making little errors like droping for a leg after taking Jones back despite it not working the 1st time. Shogun just didnt have time to prepare for any plan Bs

A healthy prepared Shogun would have 100% done A LOT BETTER against Jones.

Rampage was fighting very competitively with Jones. Shogun absolutely could have too

The Shogun who fought Jones was simply Shogun at HIS WORST. Health and gameplans are everything. Shogun with both couldve beaten Jones that night.

Lmao

 

[Shining Wizard]

EDIT:

Even Shogun's loss to Jones gets exeggerated to hell and back

Shogun landed some.good right leads and 1-2s on the feet. Shogun got up from Jones 1st TD and took Jones back multiple times by side stepping/slipping a majority of Jones' spinning attacks

That fight was simply a ground domination where Jones used his immense strength and size advantages to hold Shogun down and beat him up with ground and pound

Plus Shogun coming off surgery was not in shape and gassed out. Plus Shogun taking the fight on short notice didnt have time to develop a gameplan or any plan Bs

Thats why Sogun kept trying for the same sweep and kept making little errors like droping for a leg after taking Jones back despite it not working the 1st time. Shogun just didnt have time to prepare for any plan Bs

A healthy prepared Shogun would have 100% done A LOT BETTER against Jones.

Rampage was fighting very competitively with Jones. Shogun absolutely could have too

The Shogun who fought Jones was simply Shogun at HIS WORST. Health and gameplans are everything. Shogun with both couldve beaten Jones that night.

Not much of a claim since Shogun literally could not do worse. Only Silva vs. Franklin rivals this one sided beating where the champ gets his shit pushed in.

And as for the excuses you listed are they legitimate? To an extent...but what breaks all Shogun huggers minds is the fact that any version of Shogun gets finished by prime Jones.

 

[MitMcl]

EDIT:

Even Shogun's loss to Jones gets exeggerated to hell and back

Shogun landed some.good right leads and 1-2s on the feet. Shogun got up from Jones 1st TD and took Jones back multiple times by side stepping/slipping a majority of Jones' spinning attacks

That fight was simply a ground domination where Jones used his immense strength and size advantages to hold Shogun down and beat him up with ground and pound

Plus Shogun coming off surgery was not in shape and gassed out. Plus Shogun taking the fight on short notice didnt have time to develop a gameplan or any plan Bs

Thats why Sogun kept trying for the same sweep and kept making little errors like droping for a leg after taking Jones back despite it not working the 1st time. Shogun just didnt have time to prepare for any plan Bs

A healthy prepared Shogun would have 100% done A LOT BETTER against Jones.

Rampage was fighting very competitively with Jones. Shogun absolutely could have too

The Shogun who fought Jones was simply Shogun at HIS WORST. Health and gameplans are everything. Shogun with both couldve beaten Jones that night.

This is sad.

 

[Boxingislife]

First fight was not remotely close.

Delusional

It was Razor thin for the first 13 mins.

Shogun in fact won round 2. I dont sew how anyone could argue that Gus won it

Admitting that Shogun gave Gus hell is not saying that Gus is an "over rated" fighter like you guys are taking it so relax.

What people simply dont understand is that styles make fights....and Shogun was a tough match up for Gus....pressure fighter who cuts off the ring very well...plus Gus' tendencey to box favored Shogun....

And ironic enough its that same tendencey to box from Gus that allowed Gus to dominate Jones...Gus had reach himself to nullify Jones' reach to where it was then fought at mid-range where Gus could stay in the pocket against Jones and utilise his far superior boxing

Also not to mention Gus fought a very well prepared Shogun

So Gus beating a good version of Shogun in a tough close fight holds a lot more meaning then Jones running through an injuried coming off surgery Shogun

Gus beat a way better version of Shogun then Jones beat

Again, its ok to give Shogun credit. Gus is still a beast. So is Shogun. Lets not forget Shogun is one of the greatest fighters to ever live, is widely considered the #2 LHW goat, and that in his prime he wouldve beaten Gus

War Shogun. War Gus

 

[RockyLockridge]

fuck no.

 

[Boxingislife]

Wtf are you talking about? Shogun has a lot of hardcore fans. Were you not here when they discredited every single loss he had up until Jones crushed him? You can probably find threads where people talk about how he had no "legit" losses prior to the Jones fight.

What are you freaking out about you irrate delusional man? Are you a Shogun hater? Are you a black racist who worships Jones? There was no reason for you to freak out and take such offence to that post. You have mental issues. Calm yourself boy.

People were saying things that were simply true. Thats all that was. Shogun did suffer from injuries which hurt his performances. Shogun was injured and coming off surgery when he fought Jones. That was a valid excuse. Healthy Shogun IS damn near unstoppable!

Youre post had nothing to do with what I said either.

I was also talking about NOW

Like how Shogun was utterly OUT CLASSING the complete and utter fuck out of Hendo for every second of every round for 2 rounds until he got caught, yet some how "Shogun sucks" People acting like Hendo was dominant

Or how Shogun looked absolutely great and much improved against Nog, clearly and easily won 2 rounds yet "Shogun looked bad. Bad decision"

That was the kind of bullshit i was talking about. Go back to your troll cave son

 

[Boxingislife]

fuck no.

Chavez Sr >>>>

: )

 

[Dart Feld]

Wtf are you talking about? Shogun has a lot of hardcore fans. Were you not here when they discredited every single loss he had up until Jones crushed him? You can probably find threads where people talk about how he had no "legit" losses prior to the Jones fight.

It's just a gimmick account. It makes long winded OTT posts either praising Shogun, discrediting Jones, or praising Conor. I wouldn't pay it much mind.

 

[IloveTHIS]

No way. It was a blowout last time and Shogun would probably do even worse now.

Blowout...lmao I truly wonder if some of you even watch these fighta.

 

[Boxingislife]

Not much of a claim since Shogun literally could not do worse. Only Silva vs. Franklin rivals this one sided beating where the champ gets his shit pushed in.

And as for the excuses you listed are they legitimate? To an extent...but what breaks all Shogun huggers minds is the fact that any version of Shogun gets finished by prime Jones.

Jones vs Shogun actually wasnt that bad. Jones simply used his size and strength advantages to hold Shogun down and beat him up on the ground.

That fight was won due to the ground where the smaller Shogun was brutally overwhelmed. Who really gives a shit. Jones didnt out skill Shogun. He simply out sized and out strengthed him. There have BEEN FAR FAR WORSE more humilating losses in MMA.

Also much worse beatdowns. For one, Shogun vs Rampage is the worst beatdown in combat sports history. Shogun whopped up on Rampage like he was a runaway slave lmao (just a joke meant to be funny)

Also yeah those were legit excuses for Shogun against Jones. Healthy Shogun with a full camp and gameplan wouldnt have "just done better," he wouldve won rounds and made it a war IMO

 

[Boxingislife]

It's just a gimmick account. It makes long winded OTT posts either praising Shogun, discrediting Jones, or praising Conor. I wouldn't pay it much mind.

yeah...sure... a "gimmick account" even though I have over 60 PM's from people thanking me for my technical breakdowns/analytical threads

if I'm a "gimmick account" what does that make you , since I have contributed far more to the forums with breakdown threads that get tons of views and post counts

Youre the troll...or one of my haters because I broke down a fight for what it was and pissed you off by not siding with your fav fighter.

Let me guess, youre an Aldo fanatic whos bitter and disgruntled because I state the truth that Conor is far more skilled

I know far more about skill/fighting then you could ever dream of

Realise that youre the troll. Realise that just because you are ignorant to skill and so therefore disagree with my opinions, that doesnt make me the gimmick account

 

[Shoot Boxe Hero]

Jones vs Shogun wasnt that bad at all. Jones simply used his size and strength advantageous to hold Shogun down and beat him up on the ground.

That fight was won due to the ground where the smaller Shogun was overwhelmed. Who really gives a shit. Jones didnt out skill Shogun. He simply out sized and out strengthed him. There have BEEN FAR FAR WORSE more humilating losses in MMA.

Also much worse beatdowns. For one, Shogun vs Rampage is the worst beatdown in combat sports history. Shogun whopped up on Rampage like he was a runaway slave lmao

Also yeah those were legit excuses for Shogun against Jones. Healthy Shogun with a full camp and gameplan wouldnt have "just done better," he wouldve won rounds and made it a war IMO

Oh great this retard is still around? Shouldn't you be busy making the same exact Conor breakdown thread like you always do?

 

[Boxingislife]

Blowout...lmao I truly wonder if some of you even watch these fighta.

I'd be willing to bet a majority of them watched the fight high and drunk. Assuming they actually did watch

Its just like the trolls who said Mendes was dominating Conor.

 

[SlicerDM]

I'm embarrassed to share the same love for a fighter as "boxingislife"

aka jimmyjames

 

[Boxingislife]

People really are butt hurt over me, just because I state the truth that Conor is far more skilled then Aldo

These "people" really hold a grudge over me just because of that...really think about how pathetic that is...and im the troll...just l...o...l

Jones fans also cant handle any criticims of Jones..dont worship Jones like they do they attack...again so pathetic

Anyway, ignore my stalkish haters trying to derail this thread

I feel Gus should fight Rashad. Id like to see Gus smash Rashad

Shogun is going to be out for a while. Just had shoulder surgery. No need to rush him into anything...and in fact I think the time-off is just what Shogun needs right now. I think it's perfect for Shogun, sit out a year, gather his wits, heal up in body and mind and come back refreshed

 

[Minnja]

What are you freaking out about you irrate delusional man? Are you a Shogun hater? Are you a black racist who worships Jones? There was no reason for you to freak out and take such offence to that post. You have mental issues. Calm yourself boy.

People were saying things that were simply true. Thats all that was. Shogun did suffer from injuries which hurt his performances. Shogun was injured and coming off surgery when he fought Jones. That was a valid excuse. Healthy Shogun IS damn near unstoppable!

Youre post had nothing to do with what I said either.

I was also talking about NOW

Like how Shogun was utterly OUT CLASSING the complete and utter fuck out of Hendo for every second of every round for 2 rounds until he got caught, yet some how "Shogun sucks" People acting like Hendo was dominant

Or how Shogun looked absolutely great and much improved against Nog, clearly and easily won 2 rounds yet "Shogun looked bad. Bad decision"

That was the kind of bullshit i was talking about. Go back to your troll cave son

Lol.

 

[Appylion]

Noooo