Law Gun Control: A Global Overview

[Cartiac]

Well bud, every time the democrats pass a law to try to prevent children from getting massacred, guess who fights it?

First of all, I am not your bud, pal!

I won't ask you to list all of the laws you are talking about but can you just give me one? The only time in recent history a law could be passed without Republican support was under Obama so are you talking about the time he ran guns to the Mexican drug cartels, I'm sure that saved so many children's lives. Or maybe it was the cages Obama built on the border to lock up the Mexican kids after separating them from their families just to deport them. Democrats just love those children.

 

[BFoe]

Some bullshit

I thought I was being incredibly generous.

I'm glad you're all for states' rights, but I already know how conditional that is.

You're exactly what Thomas was talking about

 

[Deorum]

Potshots? I thought I was being incredibly generous. The "bullshit" was obviously sarcastic -- federal statutes are made through an Act of Congress and no small matter. Any individual rights granted from them just aren't comparable to those enumerated and protected by the Constitution. I'm glad you're all for states' rights, but I already know how conditional that is. Are we repealing all federal gun laws in tandem with that, then? lol. I'm all for state rights myself, but the idea the Constitution ought not to be incorporated and enforced towards them is crazy. It's a minimalist framework. Or is it ONLY the 2A that shouldn't be, right? You're exactly what Thomas was talking about in his opinion for NYSRPA v. Bruen.

 

[Deorum]

@Rob Battisti, there are only three organizations of any type that I make regular donations to and this is one of them. It's worth it.

The Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) is a 501(c)(4) non-profit gun rights organization in the United States, which aims to advance gun rights via legal action, in keeping with its stated goal to restore the essential right to keep and bear arms as protected under the Second Amendment in the United States. The FPC seeks to approach gun rights advocacy in a more targeted and effective way than the National Rifle Association of America (NRA), specifically by working with targeted legal teams to advance court ligitation and legislation in support of gun rights causes.

 

[ermac88]

There are less than 60 million people in the UK. North of 320 million in America. While the difference in population size is not the sole factor, it does go some way to explaining why the death toll in the US is so much higher.

We just had three kids hacked to death at a Taylor Swift dance class. And yes, the only thing our fucking politicians offered was, "thoughts and prayers".

Oh, and the same day those bairns were being cut to pieces? Four shit-bags fought a duel on a public beach. With fucking machetes. While two unarmed coppers could only stand around and watch. As helpless as the civilians who were running for their lives.

Listen that sucks.
hearing about kids getting killed in any environment absolutely sucks.

there are some sick mother fuckers out there who will find a way to do harm.

But if you are suggesting that introducing guns into your society because 3 kids got killed with knives

Where in the US 12 kids a day are murdered with guns

You've absolutely and emphatically lost total perspective on how good you have it there relative to how it can be compared to societies with guns

 

[KnightTemplar]

Gun ownership: three quarters of Britons want stricter laws | YouGov

Approaching two in five think firearm ownership should be illegal

yougov.co.uk

That's the last poll I can find. Only about 1% of respondents wanted controls to be looser.

Lies, damn lies and Polls.

The Polls said Hilary was going to win in 2016, and we all remember how that one turned out.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Listen that sucks.
hearing about kids getting killed in any environment absolutely sucks.

there are some sick mother fuckers out there who will find a way to do harm.

But if you are suggesting that introducing guns into your society because 3 kids got killed with knives

Where in the US 12 kids a day are murdered with guns

You've absolutely and emphatically lost total perspective on how good you have it there relative to how it can be compared to societies with guns

The two are not linked. I'm simply pointing out that removing guns from Britain did not remove violent crime. It simply changed the weapons used. Last night, a man had his right hand cut off with a machete in Scotland, and that's just one of many stabbings that occur every day of the week. So many young men are stabbed in London that the murders barely even make the news anymore.

It didn't even stop children being shot; a child was killed a couple of years ago in Liverpool when a hitman fired into a civilian's house that another gangster had ran into while being chased.

 

[Deorum]

Lies, damn lies and Polls.

The Polls said Hilary was going to win in 2016, and we all remember how that one turned out.

Different Judge, Hard To Culture

 

[nonoob]

@Rob Battisti, there are only three organizations of any type that I make regular donations to and this is one of them. It's worth it.

The Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) is a 501(c)(4) non-profit gun rights organization in the United States, which aims to advance gun rights via legal action, in keeping with its stated goal to restore the essential right to keep and bear arms as protected under the Second Amendment in the United States. The FPC seeks to approach gun rights advocacy in a more targeted and effective way than the National Rifle Association of America (NRA), specifically by working with targeted legal teams to advance court ligitation and legislation in support of gun rights causes.

Never heard of them, of course, very good post. Those lawyers know that removing the Constitutional 2nd Amendment rights encourage criminals to thrive.

Thomas Jefferson knew the deal, removing guns only helped scumbag criminals and only hurt law abiding citizens. Chicago's daily murders sound familiar? Cali sanctuary cities - safe only for those murdering our law-abiding citizens ?

 

[Deorum]

Never heard of them, of course, very good post. Those lawyers know that removing the Constitutional 2nd Amendment rights encourage criminals to thrive.

Thomas Jefferson knew the deal, removing guns only helped scumbag criminals and only hurt law abiding citizens. Chicago's daily murders sound familiar? Cali sanctuary cities - safe only for those murdering our law-abiding citizens ?

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/about

 

[DoctorTaco]

 

[DoctorTaco]

Not once has any government effort been made to address that issue.

Except for gun control legislation?

 

[DoctorTaco]

 

[FIMN]

Lies, damn lies and Polls.

The Polls said Hilary was going to win in 2016, and we all remember how that one turned out.

Which poll(s) said that?

 

[KnightTemplar]

Which poll(s) said that?

NYT for a start.

 

[jefferz]

First of all, I am not your bud, pal!

I won't ask you to list all of the laws you are talking about but can you just give me one? The only time in recent history a law could be passed without Republican support was under Obama so are you talking about the time he ran guns to the Mexican drug cartels, I'm sure that saved so many children's lives. Or maybe it was the cages Obama built on the border to lock up the Mexican kids after separating them from their families just to deport them. Democrats just love those children.

Well, US vs Rahimi is a great place to start.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Not a surprise the US has low restrictions on Gun Control.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Americans, fight like hell against anyone that wants to take your guns away.
I'm in Europe and we can't have shit. It's awful. And self defense laws here are a joke.
Once the guns are gone, it's an ever-growing spiral of taking things away from you until you're essentially a child at the mercy of the state.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Listen that sucks.
hearing about kids getting killed in any environment absolutely sucks.

there are some sick mother fuckers out there who will find a way to do harm.

But if you are suggesting that introducing guns into your society because 3 kids got killed with knives

Where in the US 12 kids a day are murdered with guns

You've absolutely and emphatically lost total perspective on how good you have it there relative to how it can be compared to societies with guns

Well said!

And this is why almost no one in the UK wants a change to to gun laws. The fella you’re responding to is talking utter shit, and he knows it as well!

The phrase I heard multiple times after the stabbings was ‘thank fuck guns aren’t legal over here’! We don’t want 10s of thousands of people shot every year over here like in the states. Or our kids having to practice active shooter drills at school ffs. We had 26 firearms murders in all of 2022 in a country of 70m, and that’s too many

 

[Hellowhosthat]

The two are not linked. I'm simply pointing out that removing guns from Britain did not remove violent crime. It simply changed the weapons used. Last night, a man had his right hand cut off with a machete in Scotland, and that's just one of many stabbings that occur every day of the week. So many young men are stabbed in London that the murders barely even make the news anymore.

It didn't even stop children being shot; a child was killed a couple of years ago in Liverpool when a hitman fired into a civilian's house that another gangster had ran into while being chased.

You're five times more likely to get murdered in the US than you are here, we're an objectively safer society.