Social Greta Thunberg Megathread

[PEB]

Yeah this is way more ugly than it needs to be. It wasn't that they just disagreed with her though, they were ignorant and tasteless with their attacks on her. One side will say they were tasteless attacks, one side will say they're not allowed to criticize at all.

A lot of women are upset by the wide ranging attacks on Greta and her family. It would be one thing to point out the difficulty of making changes to the economy without hurting families an we are working towards solutions. It would point out the challenges it takes to also create new jobs an save other jobs from a seismic change.

These would be credible efforts to point out while seeking ways to reduce pollution. These are honest questions about the path forward without over the top attacks and making fun of someone's handicap.

It's not that hard to do but no ones doing it other then to retweet hateful memes attacking her without substance. News people an Congressmen can point out their issues an impact on their district or on the economy. It's not that hard but almost no major public figure is doing this now.

 

[SurferH2O]

I thought this annoying little cult member was 9, turns out she's 16? The good news is, maybe she will disappear soon like David Hogg.

 

[Son of Jamin]

The climate and the environment are too important of issues to be addressed by a PR-firm and a narcissistic mother’s creation.

She offers no solutions, just empty tirades.

When science and political advocacy are conflated, it creates division and lack of trust in the science.

If people truly cared about the climate, they would stop making it about partisanship and focus more on science and data than attacking people with different views. But then again, it is obvious that attacking political opponents and vilify them are more important than the climate...

 

[Happy Man]

 

[jeffk]

I cannot believe how much people like to talk about this girl.

She is all over social media. It is weird how big of topic of conversation she has become.

 

[Lint]

People are focusing on group a and b in this situation but what about group c, which is made up of people who take climate change seriously but also think teenagers are retarded in general and don't really want to hear them droning on, even if they're Swedish.

The only reason why we have Greta in the first place is because we don't pay enough attention to group C.

Come to think of it we deserve all this Greta psychobabble.

 

[InternetHero]

Woe to those who use a child as a weapon, and then hide behind her like she is a shield.

"But her cause is so noble!" shouted the one searching for their hopes, and wanting to inflict their change upon us.

The cause is "always noble!" for the one in a hurry to change the world, save the world, or build a new world through wielding power against "obstacles." (Against people, more often than not...)

The moment an adult starts speaking (or rather shouting,) through an innocent, the innocent is no longer innocent.

Corruption would be the right word, and the blame, to the corrupter.

 

[Ruprecht]

I had no idea who she was until a previous thread a month or so back, but even if it's not genuine grass roots youth activism she's still a better advocate than Al Gore.
There's certainly no shortage of similar teenage activists and groups like Extinction Rebellion.
It's an unfortunate fact that when it comes to discussing this issue, it's all about the individuals and not the science and policy.
That goes as much for "Lord" Monckton and Andrew Bolt as it does Al Gore or Greta Thunberg.

 

[MilesAbove]

I don't understand why people are against young people who want to be pro-active. Seems weird.

I remember having an anti-taliban shirt on in.... 1999? Whenever they blew up the giant statues of Buddha (I think). I was all about that anti-taliban kick. Now, I'm a failure so I didn't start a huge movement or anything; but, I was gung-ho, did a whole lot of research. I was motivated and got others to pay attention to a situation they didn't otherwise understand.

Greta hit at the right time in the right way. She's an interesting little lady.

 

[Son of Jamin]

Greta hit at the right time in the right way. She's an interesting little lady.

You mean, her mother and their pr-firm hit at the right time?

There is nothing wrong with youths getting involved in important issues, like yourself when you became a talibanophobe.

The problem is, she gets the attention, while real scientists and environmentalists don’t!

She offers nothing but platitudes.

 

[Merlotte's]

Like what’s up with her face?

 

[PEB]

I had no idea who she was until a previous thread a month or so back, but even if it's not genuine grass roots youth activism she's still a better advocate than Al Gore.
There's certainly no shortage of similar teenage activists and groups like Extinction Rebellion.
It's an unfortunate fact that when it comes to discussing this issue, it's all about the individuals and not the science and policy.
That goes as much for "Lord" Monckton and Andrew Bolt as it does Al Gore or Greta Thunberg.

One thing she does do at every speech is present the data from the scientific community. She talks about percentages, rates of change, composition, heat level changes, and presents it in a way does not bog down details. She also travels with climate researchers from major universities from Europe who for those who are interested more details.

She's there in part to raise awareness on social media about the issues. A vast majority of people in fact pretty much all the US has never heard of the Extinction Rebellion.

People are interested in her because she has so much energy and she actually debated reporters on the issue an soundly handled herself.

She not just a talking head watch her with Arnold Schwarzenegger she was not reading notes and answering reporters questions.

These questions where not just the usual what is a young girl doing and does she think people will take her message seriously.

 

[Ruprecht]

One thing she does do at every speech is present the data from the scientific community. She talks about percentages, rates of change, composition, heat level changes, and presents it in a way does not bog down details. She also travels with climate researchers from major universities from Europe who for those who are interested more details.

She's there in part to raise awareness on social media about the issues. A vast majority of people in fact pretty much all the US has never heard of the Extinction Rebellion.

People are interested in her because she has so much energy and she actually debated reporters on the issue an soundly handled herself.

She not just a talking head watch her with Arnold Schwarzenegger she was not reading notes and answering reporters questions.

These questions where not just the usual what is a young girl doing and does she think people will take her message seriously.

Honestly I haven't paid much attention to her, although she has appeared in some local news feeds of late.
I'm more interested in the science and personal responsibility.
To be fair Gore also did a lot of talking about the science, but it was his scare tactics of focusing on marginal predictions of the likes of Wieslaw Maslowski, the fact that he's a politician and his lack of personal responsibility which undermined his activism.
Likewise when discussing the arguments of Bolt, Monckton, Watts etc, they can also do the gish gallop unless you simply point out how biased and unreliable they are as sources and exactly who they in turn are sourcing their information from. In short it just becomes political advocacy without the science playing much of a role at all in the political discussion.
Snowballs in the Senate.

 

[Slick_36]

You mean, her mother and their pr-firm hit at the right time?

There is nothing wrong with youths getting involved in important issues, like yourself when you became a talibanophobe.

The problem is, she gets the attention, while real scientists and environmentalists don’t!

She offers nothing but platitudes.

What scientists are being ignored because of her? Isn't she bringing attention to the conversation so people will listen to the scientists and environmentalists?

 

[Son of Jamin]

What scientists are being ignored because of her? Isn't she bringing attention to the conversation so people will listen to the scientists and environmentalists?

Yes, she or should I say, her PR-firm brings attention and I can't speak for America but in Sweden, the debate is not about if the climate is changing due to man's activities but rather about the best way forward. She is simply not needed here.

I also think Greta's cult of a personality is problematic, too much focus on her rather than the climate. Her idiotic trip by sail boat to America is one example of that.

I personally would like to listen more to real researchers than a child that comes from a home with a narcissistic mother and she receives more air time than most researchers in Sweden.

 

[Son of Jamin]

When her PR-firm hasn't prepared a script for her.

 

[original doom]

i found her speach a tad bit cringe. if she was from a nation that was feeling the full effects of climage change, man made or not then perhaps i would find her fiery talk a bit more realistic but as it stands shes just some activist whos nation would benefit being a few degrees warmer.

in the news she gave trump the evil eye. perhaps she should educate herself on whos pumping the oceans full of waste. and yes its mainly china and south east asia.

i sense something nasty about this girl, she has that cold look about her.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

What scientists are being ignored because of her? Isn't she bringing attention to the conversation so people will listen to the scientists and environmentalists?

Who is talking about the environment? This is about creating brand Greta. I'm sure her book I am Greta will be coming out soon along with magazine covers, t-shirts, posters, pins, notebooks, mugs, pillows, re-usable bags all featuring Greta's pictures and her climate change quotes. When the hype and sales slow down her mother will release a book titled Let Her Sail: A Mother's Journey.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

I wonder if Greta will get her own merchandise collection developed by Starboard just like Malala.

The Malala Fund merchandise collection developed by Starboard.

 

[Andy Capp]

Did you even read anything I posted? You think this part I underlined is dumb?:

"man has a duty of veneration toward nature and the natural. Nature is not something to be fought, conquered and changed according to any human whims." (from post #552)

I included a brief rebuttal of the portion to which I was referring. I guess you didn't read it. Don't care. Keep moving goal posts and I'm not going to play the game. Plain and simple.