Economy Greatest Economic Period in American History Has Americans Rethinking American Dream

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As interest rates in the US remain higher for longer, the American Dream of affordable homeownership is unattainable for longer — and maybe for good.

Perhaps more than anything else, mortgage rates are the single biggest factor that determine one’s economic mobility in the US. Mortgage rates have been hovering around 7% for over a month — more than double what they were three years ago — and many were counting on them coming down as inflation rapidly retreated toward the end of last year. But price growth ramped back up again to start 2024, and now the Federal Reserve is keeping rates at a two-decade high for the time being.

That unrelenting pressure has upended major life plans for US consumers and could mean staying in a dead-end job or refusing to relocate for a better opportunity, which can affect business and productivity. It’ll likely exacerbate all kinds of gaps in wealth as more people are shut out from buying houses, creating a wider chasm between those who own and those who don’t. While owners benefited from a $1.3 trillion home-equity windfall in 2023, renters saw costs remain high, pandemic savings dry up and household debt rise.


And all of this, of course, is top of mind for voters who are largely downbeat on the economy heading into November’s presidential election.

The numbers are pretty bleak. Renters say there’s a 60% likelihood they’ll never be able to own a home — that’s the highest since the New York Fed started the survey a decade ago. Just 16% of listings last year were affordable for the typical American household, according to real estate brokerage Redfin Corp. And as if a record median $433,558 price tag for a home wasn’t bad enough, insurance costs and property taxes have also spiked.

I’ve been told there has never been a better economic period in US history than what we are experiencing right now. However, so many Americans can’t even afford a home.

Do you feel like we’re doing well economically? Are you more prosperous than at any point in your life?

I’m curious how Sherdoggers are feeling on the state of the economy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...srnd=homepage-americas&embedded-checkout=true
 
The economy has been great if you have a shit ton of money invested in the market.

Not so great if your wages have fallen behind the massive uptick in prices and inflation.

People that can't afford housing don't have a shit ton of money invested in the market.
 
Because in capitalism a "good economy" means capitalism extracting more wealth from society. And peoples solution is always to join the criminals and invest in corporations that are doing the extracting.

Even if people were willing to invest and investing was sustainable and non problematic what they don't tell you is that investing takes a lifetime to pay off if you're starting with a low principal which all non wealthy people are. Your natural life is spent getting that principal up to something that rich people had on day one. The main point of telling the average person to invest is so they feel they have shared economic interests with their oppressors and will be less likely to retaliate.
 
Because in capitalism a "good economy" means capitalism extracting more wealth from society. And peoples solution is always to join the criminals and invest in corporations that are doing the extracting.
Actually it means more wealth is being produced. If you want to complain about how that is distributed, that's fine, but you're bungling the most basic principle before you start.
 
There have been long periods in very recent history where the federal mortgage rates were much higher and people could still afford homes.

So what factors in the housing market differ now compared with say, the early 90s when rates were even higher.
The median housing price compared to the median wage.
 
For reference,

1994

Median Wage: $32,263
Median Housing Price: $130,000
Mortgage Rate: 8.28%

2023

Median Wage: $48,060(+48%)
Median Housing Price: $412,000(+216%)
Mortgage Rate: 8.45%

Inflation between 1994 and 2023

Value of $1 from 1994 to 2023​

$1 in 1994 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $2.06 in 2023, an increase of $1.06 over 29 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 2.52% per year between 1994 and 2023, producing a cumulative price increase of 105.60%.

This means that prices in 2023 are 2.06 times as high as average prices since 1994, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics consumer price index.

The inflation rate in 1994 was 2.56%. The inflation rate in 2023 was 4.12%. The 2023 inflation rate is higher compared to the average inflation rate of 2.90% per year between 2023 and 2024.


Basically, our wages went up 50%, costs of goods went up 105% and housing went up 200%.

@jk7707 does that answer your question?
 
Funny? I guess you don’t have any real thoughts on this.
What thought should I have, you seem to want to blame the democrats for the current situation, but literally the other side has a way worse plan. It’d be great if there was a viable third party but there isn’t.
 
For reference,

1994

Median Wage: $32,263
Median Housing Price: $130,000
Mortgage Rate: 8.28%

2023

Median Wage: $48,060(+48%)
Median Housing Price: $412,000(+216%)
Mortgage Rate: 8.45%

Inflation between 1994 and 2023




Basically, our wages went up 50%, costs of goods went up 105% and housing went up 200%.

@jk7707 does that answer your question?


Yep. Thanks for the research. The next question is; What's driving up the cost of homes at a rate much faster than everything else? And what's the best way to address it?
 
Housing prices don't include the cost of finance.

Higher mortgage rates exert downward pressure on home prices.

We would expect lower mortgage rates to result in higher home prices.
 
Yep. Thanks for the research. The next question is; What's driving up the cost of homes at a rate much faster than everything else? And what's the best way to address it?

People using housing as their retirement plan, junk fees, NIMBYism, lack of zoning for housing, and investment properties. Post-pandemic, there has been a hike in construction (material and labor) as well. All reduces supply while the demand for first time home ownership is reasonably constant.
 
Due to the low uneplyomemt, I'd say this economic climate is great unless you are trying to move.... In other words, it's great for majority people.

Hence why little will be done on the national level to address this regardless of which party is in power. Homeowners like high home prices.
 
What thought should I have, you seem to want to blame the democrats for the current situation, but literally the other side has a way worse plan. It’d be great if there was a viable third party but there isn’t.
You mean a 3rd party that solely aligns itself with your goofy ideology
 

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