BJJ Grappling in a street fight a good idea?

[NoSmilez]

I knew a brown and a black belt that got stabbed because they took the fight to the ground.

 

[Foppa21]

I haven't read the now 4 pages of posts so I'll just address the OP.

My answer is it depends and what you mean by grappling. If you mean pull guard or go to the ground, it's probably not a good idea. But if you're going to clinch possibly take a person down to create space and leave, yeah it's probably alright. The key is to not get stuck in a position that will leave you vulnerable for a extended period of time. Even if you're in a advantage, guessing say, a thai clinch, if you're there for 10s, that's 10s where you're concentrating on one target and a third party could get involved.

It's why in those situations, striking is a better option if you're equally comfortable. You're more likely to be able to end it faster.

 

[Intermission]

TaeKwonDo is better than BJJ on the street.

That's how bad it is

 

[Deleted member 449757]

Great idea. You can Amogleja them head first into the pavement.

 

[Kal-El]

It's worked for me, and saved my ass. Lol at the argument of his friends jumping in. If it's 2, 3 or 4 on one you're most likely fucked anyway, or do you imagine like the movies where you're just k.oing guys left and right. I'm decently trained I'm both striking and grappling and avoid fights at all costs. When it's happened grappling came through, a lot of mayhem in a real fight.

 

[freakroor]

yyour best option is run away. second best is KO them standing. but most fights end up on the ground so…

 

[teamventure09]

It works great, at least has for me. Every time I ended up in a bad situation having to fight I always took them down and just controlled them, I’ve never hit anyone in a fight before. One thing to look out for is fucking eye gouging, I’ve had my eyes gouged twice by the person on bottom, I know I could have gouged back but that’s pretty haggard and it’s easy to get them off my eyes. I haven’t fought in ten years and don’t ever intend on again (I don’t like going to bars anymore), but literally every time it was takedown side control or mount grab an Americana or kimura and let them panic from the pressure. Fuck punching someone unless your life depends on it, if they get seriously hurt you’ll go to federal pound me in the ass prison. Or just don’t go to bars after 8pm and not have to fight

I'm interested in how likely it is for an untrained person to turn the tides with an eye gouge.
I hear people talk on social media how they think an eye gouge is an easy nullifier of grappling and they obviously don't understand the mechanics of basic grappling so they overestimate the chances of an eye gouge.

Once while I was bouncing, a guy I had in side control reached at my face with both hands to eye gouge me. Not only did his eye gouge attempt fail but he basically was giving me an arm to choke him with so it was very convenient for a head n arm choke.

Any elaboration on how it was easy for you to defend eye gouge?

 

[ChessJitsu]

depends on the context

 

[teamventure09]

depends on the context

I'm thinking the context of having top control like mount or side control, and you are looking to strike or choke.

 

[SandisLL]

sure, why not?

The argument of you shouldn't grapple someone in a one vs one because someone else can stomp on you from behind makes little sense. It's not a one vs one then...

You are dreaming.

Yes, grappling is very usable. To establish control etc or to get opponent down ASAP while remaining in standup or half standup.

Otherwise his friends or bottlemates might not bother what stuff belt is and 1 vs 1 ideology plus might use everything awailable for them to process you. Till morgue.

 

[vonmises6]

Man, people don't understand basic sh*t when it comes to grappling. You'll be ok...

Opponent decided to take it to the ground, I locked up half guard and went deep half to avoid a strike(he ended up punching the concrete). There is video of this part

established the under hook and obviously he has no idea that he should overhook so he was on all fours trying to keep balance, I take the back and put him in a sort of like a modified full nelson with both hooks in.

I don't remember why but for some reason I couldn't get the seatbelt grip but I start to apply the RNC and...

His woman jumps in at this point and starts punching me.

He was actually calling for her to get a knife out the car but luckily I had my godson with me who was only 16(17 now)at the time but like 5'10 and almost 200lbs. So he would verbally stop her from going in the car to get a weapon.

I let him go and they skedaddle. She actually has this whole thing recorded, my godson had to stop recording to stop her from getting sh*t out the car to help him. So I only have a bit of video showing me avoiding the one strike he did throw and basing him out and also some stills.

it's excellent for 1v1 but keep in mind no one is just going to sit back and watch you submit someone they love(especially with a choke) so hopefully you got some friends too because if your opponents friends haven't jumped in yet they will when you slap on a choke.

2 street fights as an adult, 2 times the guys woman jumps in to hit me while strangling

 

[Dana's Moonface]

If bjj is your only art, I suggest some striking. No I don't count the single mma class that many bjj gyms offer where guys go 30% with shin pads, but go to a real mma/boxing/kickboxing/MT class and learn to strike

Grappling is amazing one v one, but having the confidence to take punches and fire back gives Ms more confidence vs thugs than any grappling, as I'd rather stay on my feet

Anyway as. I posted already, just don't fucking fight and carry a gun if it's legal. Fighting is for morons and bums. They can be avoided in the vast majority of circumstances

I have a pretty short fuse and grew up in a tough neighbourhood and it's been over 20 years since I've been in a real fight (door work excluded)

 

[Kal-El]

I'm interested in how likely it is for an untrained person to turn the tides with an eye gouge.
I hear people talk on social media how they think an eye gouge is an easy nullifier of grappling and they obviously don't understand the mechanics of basic grappling so they overestimate the chances of an eye gouge.

Once while I was bouncing, a guy I had in side control reached at my face with both hands to eye gouge me. Not only did his eye gouge attempt fail but he basically was giving me an arm to choke him with so it was very convenient for a head n arm choke.

Any elaboration on how it was easy for you to defend eye gouge?

I've never been eye gouged, I'd assume it's ne t to useless. If the guy is untrained and can eye gouge you then the trained guy can eye gouge him back and more effectively. But eye gouging doesn't mean much when people are headbutting/punching imo

 

[Smato_rules]

I'm interested in how likely it is for an untrained person to turn the tides with an eye gouge.
I hear people talk on social media how they think an eye gouge is an easy nullifier of grappling and they obviously don't understand the mechanics of basic grappling so they overestimate the chances of an eye gouge.

Once while I was bouncing, a guy I had in side control reached at my face with both hands to eye gouge me. Not only did his eye gouge attempt fail but he basically was giving me an arm to choke him with so it was very convenient for a head n arm choke.

Any elaboration on how it was easy for you to defend eye gouge?

Both times it was stupidity easy to take the hand the are reaching at my face and isolate the arm. In one instance I amaricanad the guy til the bouncer broke it up and the other one I mounted him immediately and beat the shit out of him. Both happened when I wasn’t even very good at grappling either, now days it would be a gift to have someone put their hand towards my face; but I had an instructor say once don’t do anything dirty on the bottom that someone on the top can do to you

 

[Quebec Nick]

I always thought that BJJ is something that happens to you, not what you try to accomplish in a street fight

If you get tackle by behind and you end up side controlled with someone trying to punch you out. You're gonna be happy to have it ingrained in you to defend yourself in that situation

Nobody talks about pulling guard in a street fight

 

[ROcknrollracing]

Dont go to the ground unless you have to. Knowing how to grapple even if you dont go to the ground is good though.

 

[teamventure09]

Both times it was stupidity easy to take the hand the are reaching at my face and isolate the arm. In one instance I amaricanad the guy til the bouncer broke it up and the other one I mounted him immediately and beat the shit out of him. Both happened when I wasn’t even very good at grappling either, now days it would be a gift to have someone put their hand towards my face; but I had an instructor say once don’t do anything dirty on the bottom that someone on the top can do to you

This .
People who have never trained don't understand that when someone tries to eye gouge they are doing you a favor by giving you an arm.

 

[teamventure09]

I always thought that BJJ is something that happens to you, not what you try to accomplish in a street fight

If you get tackle by behind and you end up side controlled with someone trying to punch you out. You're gonna be happy to have it ingrained in you to defend yourself in that situation

Nobody talks about pulling guard in a street fight

I knew a guy who tried pulling guard in a street fight and he ended up with an Adidas logo imprinted on his forehead. Lol.

 

[ROcknrollracing]

Of course you dont want to go to the ground in the street. The point of knowing grappling in that situation is to understand position. If you know how to grapple then you know how to fight as well strike. If you dont understand position or how to grapple or strike then you dont. It is a simple as that.

 

[jesusisangry]