Grant Dawson - A great fighter that no one cares about

Edward Henry Berg said:
Thanking your wife, for her love and support, is classy and necessary.

Telling the entire world your wife has a "tight ass" (dump truck) is the opposite of classy.

Dawson is likable only the bottom-dwellers.

His wife may be beautiful, and may have a nice ass, but telling the world "about her ass" is not a good look.

Keep that shit (pardon the relevance) to yourself, son.

Sure, remark on your beauty, remarked on her support, thank you for these.

And keep it limited to that.

You (and your wife's ass) should not be mentioned by you, anywhere.
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i think that guy was talking shit to me tbh lol
 
Rektkid said:
That would be interesting. I actually think he has the best top control out of the 3 but I don't think he will get Islam down cleanly enough.
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i think islam would outgrapple Dawson, but it'd be interesting if Dawson, if he can get on top, if Islam can get up if not against the cage. I think he can. But his grappling is a suffocating one.
 
JustOnce said:
I had my eyes on Dawson since his fight against Trizano. I thought he was really good, and he is 23-2 now (11-1-1 in UFC, 12-1-1 if you count the contenders series). No one cares about the guy.

It's similar to how Merab really didn't get much love around here. Colby to a similar degree before he started talking mad shit. But oh boy, Grant Dawson is as boring as they come. I never found Colby or Merab boring, though a lot of people seem to do. But oh boy this Dawson guy, his record is deceptive, he has finishes, but only against guys who can't handle his grappling game, and if they can, oh dear lord, probably one of the most boring fighters that UFC ever had if not THE most.

But he's good. I wanted him against Gamrot and Tsarukyan since a couple years ago, but getting ktfo by Bobby green might have slowed him down a bit up the ranks.

I rarely watch fighters to see them lose and Dawson is one of them. He sounds super likable though, I wish him the best, but his style I just can't handle.

Dawson is a very interesting case, because I think UFC tries not to sign guys like Dawson. As a matter of fact, Danny Sabatello in a way is a very similar fighter at BW.

Dawson was 11-1 before Dana's contender series with 8 subs and 3 tkos, with 100 percent finish rate.
Sabatello was 8-1 before Dana's conotender series with 4 subs and 3 kos, with 87.5 percent finish rate.

Dawson subbed his opponent in that series fight, and Sabatello decisioned his opponent. Who knows if it had more to do with the submission defense of their opponents? Both of their opponents were never subbed before and Sabatello's opponent is the one who continues to still fight, still never been subbed, and about to fight Thomas Almedia next.

It's ironic that Danny Sabatello will never get into UFC, though he likely beats a lot of their division. Also, I'd even argue that Sabatello faced guys and lost to guys who is better than Dawson fought in his entire UFC run: Stots and Magomed.

MMA is a cruel sport, and luck at times has something to do with it, and politics. Probably no one will remember Sabatello, and it looks like he might be done after the last fight which might have been a robbery, but having never been to UFC, almost as good as Dawson with a similar game, may have faced better opponents. If Dawson fought someone like Stots and Magomed in UFC, who knows if Dawson would still be undefeated? But I digress.

Dawson was able to face mostly non-wrestler guys in a division that used to be a shark tank of wrestlers you could say. Madsen was like 38 years old at lightweight division. Thing is, I feel like UFC tries not to sign guys like Dawson. But Dawson was finishing guys in a lesser league, so UFC likely couldn't foresee the terrifying force of boredom that they were signing. But because they don't sign wrestlers like they used to, Dawson is able to stay on a dominant run. Even Ferreira, he's a solid veteran, but he has a dogshit TDD.

What do you think about Dawson and who do you wanna see him fight next?
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I would like to see fighting against Joel Alvarez El Fenómeno for the 15 rank. It would be insane. Both have good streak and god finishes.
 
Sergeq said:
I would like to see fighting against Joel Alvarez El Fenómeno for the 15 rank. It would be insane. Both have good streak and god finishes.
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I love Alvarez. I fear Dawson might blanket the guy regardless. Alvarez is filthy on the ground, but the man is a super steel blanket.

Would be a dope fight. Alvarez had no answer with Arman on top though. I doubt Alvarez has wrestling nor bjj to sub him unfortunately.

He's on a run though, so i wouldn't count him out. The betting line probably would be something like -250 Dawson +200 Alvarez. Or maybe little closer to +180 Alvarez.
 
Edward Henry Berg said:
My post had nothing to do with you.

It had to do with Dawson's lack of class for talking about "his wife's ass" in public.
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oh okay okay you were replying to the guy who went full re- replying to me, so just thought
 
He’s genuinely the most boring fighter I’ve watched in my life
 
There's always fighters that have to rack up an insane amount of wins to get noticed. Fitch is probably the prototype of that type of fighter. Whether fair or not excitement gets noticed more than wins. That's why Porier got his latest undeserved title shot and Conor still gets so much attention.
 
StewDogg11 said:
Who’s on your list of great fighters?
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Good question


It's a pretty short list, especially if we are only talking about active fighters.

Off the top of my head

Makhachev
Volkanovski
Topuria
Jones

There are probably a dozen more that I could comfortably call great fighters.

I'd have a hard time describing any fighter who hasn't won a championship yet as a "great" fighter, even if I thought they might be.

Greatness is not rational, it's something that must be experienced.

I'm really just arguing semantics TBH. The difference between very good and great is matter of opinion. There are a lot of very good fighters but hardly any great ones, IMO.

I definitely think Dawson, and many of the other fighters discussed are here good fighters. Even Bobby Green is pretty good.

I just think the word great is thrown around top much.
 
Plissken said:
There's always fighters that have to rack up an insane amount of wins to get noticed. Fitch is probably the prototype of that type of fighter. Whether fair or not excitement gets noticed more than wins. That's why Porier got his latest undeserved title shot and Conor still gets so much attention.
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yeah Porier had a hell of a career. https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...est-striker-in-the-lw-history.4190204/page-13

I think I was pretty spot on I think he had the best career out of a wrestling-dominant division as a striker.

Conor had more talents, but don't do drugs kids.
 
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