Elections GOP 2016 Primary Thread V3: More God and Guns Edition

[GearSolidMetal]

Jeb Bush to women on welfare in 1994: 'Get a husband'


Jeb Bush And Florida's 'Scarlet Letter Law,' Explained


The media already has everything they need to sink Jeb in the GE. He is not electable imo. You either take a risk with another candidate or accept Jeb losing by a close margin at best. They have the material to make the guy look like a sexist and with Hillary on the other side, it's going to be too easy to garner a huge women turnout.

The media does have everything they need to sink Jeb Bush, but they'll cheer for him to win the nomination, just like they did McCain in 2008. Then they'll unleash the hounds with everything they got on him.

Only chance Hillary has, is Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, or Chris Christie winning the nomination. Period. Everyone else, even Trump, would have the upper hand on her.

About everyone

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I'm unsure why people come in here acting like they have insider knowledge telling us Bush is the most likely to win. Everyone posting in this thread already knows that. No one will be shocked and look back to these posts if he were to win.

I have another view of it. Right now, the only reason he's high as he is in the polls (which is still pretty low), is his name recognition. He announced an exploritory committee 6 months ago, and he's gained zero momentum, even after all his speeches over the last 6 months.

He's even spent money bribing some of the stars of other campaign staffs to come and work on his, those were expensive investments, and now he has too many chefs in the kitchen... none of whom have increased his polling numbers.

On a side note - I can't believe that conservative news organizations hasn't been jumping up and down about this blast from the past. I never forgot about it, and was wondering when it was going to break. Never would have thought it would be TheYoungTurks to do it.

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[Juventud]

The media does have everything they need to sink Jeb Bush, but they'll cheer for him to win the nomination, just like they did McCain in 2008. Then they'll unleash the hounds with everything they got on him.

Only chance Hillary has, is Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, or Chris Christie winning the nomination. Period. Everyone else, even Trump, would have the upper hand on her.

About everyone

Marco Rubio has the hispanic vote but i don't know where you're getting Trump, Walker, Cruz or Paul having a chance at beating Hillary with the womens vote.
Surely you're joking brah?

 

[Quipling]

The media does have everything they need to sink Jeb Bush, but they'll cheer for him to win the nomination, just like they did McCain in 2008. Then they'll unleash the hounds with everything they got on him.

Only chance Hillary has, is Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, or Chris Christie winning the nomination. Period. Everyone else, even Trump, would have the upper hand on her.

About everyone

Are you basing this on something? Have you seen the current match up projections? Christie is the worst, but right now Bush does substantially better (still losing) than Walker, Cruz, or Carson, let alone fringe cases like Santorum or Trump. He's even-ish with Huckabee, with Rubio and Rand (mostly Rand) being within striking distance of Clinton - and even he's trailing slightly.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Marco Rubio has the hispanic vote but i don't know where you're getting Trump, Walker, Cruz or Paul having a chance at beating Hillary with the womens vote.
Surely you're joking brah?

Hillary doesn't have high numbers among the general public, especially her negatives. Her numbers have gone even lower in recent months since her announcement and the scandals.

Basically all it would take is a nominee that would take the fight to Hillary and there's enough dirt on her from the last 25+ years to make her look unelectable threefold.

Bush, Christie, and Graham would play softball against Hillary. Cruz, Rubio, Walker, Paul, and most of the other candidates would play hardball.

Are you basing this on something? Have you seen the current match up projections? Christie is the worst, but right now Bush does substantially better (still losing) than Walker, Cruz, or Carson, let alone fringe cases like Santorum or Trump. He's even-ish with Huckabee, with Rubio and Rand (mostly Rand) being within striking distance of Clinton - and even he's trailing slightly.

Current polls mean nothing until the debates begin.

This time 8 years ago, common belief was that Hillary and Guliani would be in the general election, and now neither of them are.

And as you can see from this thread, there's enough evidence to kick Bush out of the race after Florida.

 

[Quipling]

Hillary doesn't have high numbers among the general public, especially her negatives. Her numbers have gone even lower in recent months since her announcement and the scandals.

Basically all it would take is a nominee that would take the fight to Hillary and there's enough dirt on her from the last 25+ years to make her look unelectable threefold.

Bush, Christie, and Graham would play softball against Hillary. Cruz, Rubio, Walker, Paul, and most of the other candidates would play hardball.

Current polls mean nothing until the debates begin.

This time 8 years ago, common belief was that Hillary and Guliani would be in the general election, and now neither of them are.

And as you can see from this thread, there's enough evidence to kick Bush out of the race after Florida.

Yeah, people said the same stuff the last few cycles, but general election mashups wound up being pretty accurate. Pre-debate polls may be mushy and subject to change, but your guesses are even mushier and supported by even less evidence.

Also, your breakdown of how different candidates would approach hillary makes no sense. Most present evidence suggests Walker, for example, would get smashed if he were attempt to fight dirty with Hillary. And there's no reason to suppose that Christie, of all people, would play "softball" with anybody.

Also, Hillary had a strong campaign 8 years ago, yes, but she was running neck and neck with other candidates the whole damn time. This is not like that.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Yeah, people said the same stuff the last few cycles, but general election mashups wound up being pretty accurate. Pre-debate polls may be mushy and subject to change, but your guesses are even mushier and supported by even less evidence.

Also, your breakdown of how different candidates would approach hillary makes no sense. Most present evidence suggests Walker, for example, would get smashed if he were attempt to fight dirty with Hillary. And there's no reason to suppose that Christie, of all people, would play "softball" with anybody.

Also, Hillary had a strong campaign 8 years ago, yes, but she was running neck and neck with other candidates the whole damn time. This is not like that.

Lol @ evidence. This is all speculation based on history. You don't guess who's going to be in the Superbowl on the 1st week of the regular season.

Most present evidence.... presented by whom? The MSM are working from Hillary's campaign camp. Thus the headlines 'Scandals only strengthen The Clintons.'

It still could be like that. She lost to a junior senator last time.

It'd be interesting to see what the opinions about Obama VS Clinton were in the Warroom around 7-8 years ago.

 

[Adamant]

Chris Christie Says His Brash Style Could Work on Vladimir Putin

Lol, yes. Krispy Kreme Christie is really going to put ex-KGB, Judo black belt champion, Sambo champion, Kyokushin black belt, bear-of-a-man Putin on notice.

 

[Adamant]

Scott Walker Says Supporters Have Suggested Walker-Rubio 2016 Ticket

I am excited to hear all the possible tocket options. But I guess only the winner will get to voice who he'll run with in the GE, huh?


What are the chances one of the top 10 primaries will run with another top 10 primary?

 

[Adamant]

Jeb Bush to women on welfare in 1994: 'Get a husband'

What a horrible, mean, nasty thing to say. I am truly appalled.

Spoiler

of course the left, progressive, feminazi libtards are going to shit over this. In reality...

 

[Lead]

Mitt's new mission

Mitt Romney is working with an unlikely collaborator

 

[mrsenor]

Marco Rubio has the hispanic vote but i don't know where you're getting Trump, Walker, Cruz or Paul having a chance at beating Hillary with the womens vote.
Surely you're joking brah?

rubio has the cuban vote not the hispanic vote

 

[Juventud]

Good luck with that Mitt.

This Republican race is getting much nastier before it gets better.

One of the plus's for conservatives is how they can unite behind a candidate.
It's only the extreme of the right who are vocal, but sadly they get a lot of airtime/attention.

 

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Tim Pawlenty on the Death of the Iowa Straw Poll: 'Good Riddance'

In the summer of 2011, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty was running for president, but his campaign was running out of money. He thought if he could just make it to the Iowa Straw Poll, and put up a good showing there, that might sustain his campaign a few more months.

"Our theory was we needed to make a mark early if we were going to be able to get some attention and be able to stay in his wake as the credible alternative to [Mitt Romney]," Pawlenty told National Journal on Friday. "And it was the wrong theory."

Pawlenty ended up placing third in the poll

 

[Makani]

Good, the straw poll was silly. Anything Bachmann win's should immediately be deemed irrelevant, though I would give her a rather uncaring night in the sack.

 

[Juventud]

rubio has the cuban vote not the hispanic vote

You're right.

Would he lose so much support of the base if he did move more left with immigration?

 

[Lead]

Good, the straw poll was silly. Anything Bachmann win's should immediately be deemed irrelevant, though I would give her a rather uncaring night in the sack.

The poll died likely because of how awful of an indicator it was for the nominee. Iowa itself has done an awful job having a saying in the candidate for the GOP. New Hampshire usually is the stronger indicator.

You're right.

Would he lose so much support of the base if he did move more left with immigration?

The truth with immigration at this point is the GOP nominee is likely going to be for an immigration bill with citizenship involved. Bush and Rubio are guys on board with this. Walker has stepped off it to have a distinction between the other two but I am sure with the donors he has, he will be all more it if elected.

The GOP has been for immigration for awhile. It's just taken time to pull their base to the idea of it. Also, it's a hard sell when they would come to the table with compromises and it gets blasted by the left or the hard right. It's all been politics with that issue the past couple years but I'm almost certain no matter who is elected in 2016, we will see compromise and a bill for either immigration or tax reform.

 

[speakhandsforme]

Good, the straw poll was silly. Anything Bachmann win's should immediately be deemed irrelevant, though I would give her a rather uncaring night in the sack.

Oh, fuck no.

Palin could get it, though.

 

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Ohio Gov. Kasich looks to announce 2016 presidential bid this summer

Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who has been actively gauging reactions to a possible campaign for president in 2016, is now moving rapidly to assemble the staff and financial resources for such a bid and is looking to declare his candidacy sometime after June 30, according to knowledgeable Republicans.

The two-term governor and former House member is running through a checklist before formally entering the race, but strategists close to Kasich and other longtime friends say there is no doubt that he will soon join the crowded field of those vying for the GOP nomination.

Kasich

 

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Jeb Bush Unveils 'Jeb! 2016' Graphic on Twitter

Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush is putting the finishing touches on his expected presidential campaign rollout, and took to Twitter on Sunday to release a