Goodbye Fedor vs. Crocop: The HW division is on a whole new level now

[Dead Spirit of MMA]

Whether you think Fedor and Mirko would lose against today's top guys or not doesn't matter. Good technique is good technique and your eyes should be enough to judge that.

 

[Greco_Wiz]

5-6 in the UFC.

31 when he joined.

Pride was a joke. Fedor woulda fought DC had Bigfoot not raped him.

But but but all fighters age differently!

 

[horc00]

CC and Fedor were juiced to the gills. Different ball game…

So what you're REALLY saying is that smaller guys like Fedor and CC juiced to fight in HW while your big boy Jones avoided HW like a plague despite all that juicing.

Yup. Can't have the same ball game when you have different ball sizes.

 

[Claude]

Yeah, that phenomenal striking of CC really got him far in the UFC...

True.

Beating top fighters outside the UFC doesn't count. It's all about what you do in the octagon.

 

[Claude]

Whether you think Fedor and Mirko would lose against today's top guys or not doesn't matter. Good technique is good technique and your eyes should be enough to judge that.

This post is too smart for me to grasp.

 

[Scott Stapp]

Fedor got KTFOd by Bader and Meathead Mitrione

And Tito Ortiz whooped Bader.

Tito = GOAT

 

[Claude]

Pride gave easiest fights to his champions in between the real ones. I think Fedor just defended the belt 3 times

I heard a rumor that Fedor once fought 5 times in one year, including 2 top fighters. My question is, why weren't all his opponents elite?

He should have fought the entire top 6 in a year like UFC champs do.

 

[Bork Neslar]

Stipe or DC would beat the crap out of Fedor or Cro Cop easily.

 

[Scott Stapp]

Scott Steiner on DC:

 

[Claude]

Stipe or DC would beat the crap out of Fedor or Cro Cop easily.

One liver kick to DC and Crocop's leg would be destroyed.

 

[Claude]

And Tito Ortiz whooped Bader.

Tito = GOAT

In sports

Time = irrelevant

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

There was two obvious peaks for HW MMA imo. The first was in the final 3-4 years of Pride and the second was roughly 09-11 with both the UFC and possibly even more so SF having shark tank divisions. The level of skill and athleticism at HW just sucks now, as does the depth. Average age is like 50 for fucks sake.

 

[MPD-Psycho]

Damn TS you’re owning this thread lol

 

[Claude]

But steroids will allow you to train harder and longer to sharpen skills (I.e. skills = striking defense)?!?!? Correct answer is yes!

Deal with it.

Pre USADA DC was untouchable.

 

[AndreiRubliov]

Fedor would lose to any top 15 HW
dude frickin Ryan Bader KO'd him in like 15 seconds

Bait

 

[Claude]

2 best guys he fought were CC and Nog. All I hear is how amazing they were in Pride. CC was on a roll when he came to the UFC and he was mediocre at best.. Fedor was supposed to face Brock but refused to sign. Dana wanted that fight bad.. Cain and Junior also were waiting on Fedor. Don't like his chances in either one.. He also dodged Reem a few times..

UFC > PRIDE

Anderson Silva ended the debate.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

TS great post.

 

[Smato_rules]

I remember watching lil nog and Sergei when I first got fight pass and could not believe how good they were. Good thread imo

 

[91 seconds]

I think it's worse

 

[po_thead]

Thread approved
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