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Is this reasonable? or a slippery slope?


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Why are people against this with what we have going on with our hospitals in Ontario right now? Why is our hospitals potentially being overrun not a good enough reason for people to make some sacrifices?
 
Ontario Gives Police Authority to Stop People, Vehicles and Ask Purpose of Travel

Reeeally not a fan of this. The last thing the government should be doing is giving police another reason to hassle innocent citizens. It's pretty amusing watching friends who used to swing from Ford's sack calling for his head. Can we get a reasonable third Party please?

He had his chance. Just another stooge. He doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

They have until Monday to think about the policing, though. I have a feeling we'll see a reversal on that craziness. Too many legal factors in that, and there's no way that they're not being bombarded right now with complaints from concerned groups. The police themselves are probably among them. COVID aside, that's just pure insanity.
 
He had his chance. Just another stooge. He doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

They have until Monday to think about the policing, though. I have a feeling we'll see a reversal on that craziness. Too many legal factors in that, and there's no way that they're not being bombarded right now with complaints from concerned groups. The police themselves are probably among them. COVID aside, that's just pure insanity.

Oh, I've hated Ford from Day 1, he got lucky as fuck running against one of the lamest ducks in recent memory. He just oozes befuddlement. I know the CCLA has come out strongly against it, there's enough murky Constitutional water already. God forbid someone got hurt or killed while they're getting hassled, it'll be bedlam.
 
Oh, I've hated Ford from Day 1, he got lucky as fuck running against one of the lamest ducks in recent memory.

That's pretty generous. Wynne wasn't just a lame duck. She was a fucking disaster. Ford's heading down the same path, though.

He just oozes befuddlement. I know the CCLA has come out strongly against it, there's enough murky Constitutional water already. God forbid someone got hurt or killed while they're getting hassled, it'll be bedlam.

I think under normal circumstances, he'd be fine. Shit, I'd be fine. You'd be fine. It's not an extremely difficult gig under normal circumstances. Crisis brings out politicians true skills and instinct. By my count, all these politicians have very little, and are lost little girls when shit gets real.

But yeah, that cop thing is gonna be a fucking mess if they're crazy enough not to pull it back.
 
Oh, I've hated Ford from Day 1, he got lucky as fuck running against one of the lamest ducks in recent memory. He just oozes befuddlement. I know the CCLA has come out strongly against it, there's enough murky Constitutional water already. God forbid someone got hurt or killed while they're getting hassled, it'll be bedlam.
Who voted for him? i mean look i didnt like the previous leader of Onatrio but i was more shocked how Ford won the conservative race as soon he appeared at the race. By the way did you hear what Ford said a while back? he said he cant go agaisnt the advises of Top Doctors of the province i mean seriously because according to him he will be problary fired or something?

either way whoever is the current top doctor of Ontario has also being doing a horrible job.
 
Why are people against this with what we have going on with our hospitals in Ontario right now? Why is our hospitals potentially being overrun not a good enough reason for people to make some sacrifices?
Lockdowns are one thing. Allowing police to stop people for being out is a whole other story. It’s already been shown that cops can’t be unbiased. What’s stopping them from turning a blind eye to some groups and pulling over others?
 
Who voted for him? i mean look i didnt like the previous leader of Onatrio but i was more shocked how Ford won the conservative race as soon he appeared at the race.

Name value goes a LONG way. Rob Ford, despite being a joke on late night TV, was beloved by the city that decides these things.
 
We need a two tier healthcare system. The reason ICUs and hospitals are at max capacity is because we barely have enough spots as it is. If we had a private option I would buy insurance in a heartbeat.
 
These Doctors don't give a shit. They're still getting paid while they're fucking the rest of citizens in the ass just so they can get on TV.
The problem is these doctors are only experts in viruses, not mental health. Guys like Fauci are no better than the average person in terms of being an expert on mental health.

From the beginning they should have had a mental health expert alongside the virus doctor.
 
We need a two tier healthcare system. The reason ICUs and hospitals are at max capacity is because we barely have enough spots as it is. If we had a private option I would buy insurance in a heartbeat.
Honestly? the media in Canada and in the province haven't being very honest about the whole thing, let alone the crisis. The media always seems to bring up so called experts always push for lockdowns and social distancing, etc..

They haven't for the past whole year since this thing had started none of their so called "Experts" have talked about eating healthy, staying healthy. maintaining your body. They haven't even talked about eating the vitamins to.

I just noticed at my local pharmacy they are getting almost sold out on the vitamins. So much for the experts when they are ignoring to mention about vitamins or maintaining a healthy body.
 
Is it me or is the UK following the Canadian Script? its almost as if these polticans no matter are also following the same script? looks like they still haven't destroyed enough small businesses.
UK Government Advisors Call For MORE Lockdowns
has said local restrictions may need to be reintroduced if surge testing fails to halt the spread of the South African Covid variant.

Professor John Edmunds, an epidemiologist at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, told ITV’s Peston show that if mass testing events, such as those currently underway in Southwark and Barnet in London, “don’t work that well … then it’s possible we’ll have to impose some sort of local restrictions back in place and nobody wants to do it”.
 
Honestly? the media in Canada and in the province haven't being very honest about the whole thing, let alone the crisis. The media always seems to bring up so called experts always push for lockdowns and social distancing, etc..

They haven't for the past whole year since this thing had started none of their so called "Experts" have talked about eating healthy, staying healthy. maintaining your body. They haven't even talked about eating the vitamins to.

I just noticed at my local pharmacy they are getting almost sold out on the vitamins. So much for the experts when they are ignoring to mention about vitamins or maintaining a healthy body.

That is true as well. But I work in the field and I've seen a 35 year old rock climber spend 9 days at the ICU with Covid so sometimes this disease doesn't discriminate. But I absolutely agree that anyone who isn't exercising, eating healthy and taking supplements should get on it. I take 5000iu of Vit D, Zinc, omegas, Vit C and B.
 
That is true as well. But I work in the field and I've seen a 35 year old rock climber spend 9 days at the ICU with Covid so sometimes this disease doesn't discriminate. But I absolutely agree that anyone who isn't exercising, eating healthy and taking supplements should get on it. I take 5000iu of Vit D, Zinc, omegas, Vit C and B.
I am no fan of the lockdowns.They should end them you have no idea how badly these lockdowns have being impacting the children where i am in community i hear from some parents that the lockdowns have made the children very emotional.
 
I am no fan of the lockdowns.They should end them you have no idea how badly these lockdowns have being impacting the children where i am in community i hear from some parents that the lockdowns have made the children very emotional.

Oh I'm for ending the lockdowns as well. The only reason for lockdowns in my opinion is if the health care system is about to be run over. And the reason for the healthcare system being run over in my opinion is the lack of a private option. We barely have enough hospital capacity on our best day. Regardless schools and daycares should remain open at all times. Kids are my main concern as well.
 
Seems like we are at the breaking point with infections, so something has to happen. We aren't even through vaccinating 60-70 year olds, so we need to keep focus on them as they are more vulnerable and then focus on the GTA.

Ford isn't wrong that people are ignoring the rules and doing non-essential shit. The only outbreaks in my northern town have been from people travelling for costco runs or booty calls. The stopping of golf and other outdoor activities will only help in the sense that it will eliminate us getting together for a beer after. That isn't a major issue, but it is a contributor. The police will not enforce this. They will hopefully just break-up super spreaders. There are not enough of them and they won't waste their time.

Government paid sick days will shutdown many essential businesses in my opinion due to abuse. My company gives up to 10 paid sick days a year, and they all get used by almost every employee (in non-pandemic times). Mostly Friday's and Monday's coincidentally. We even brought in a policy that we will buy-back your left-over days at 50% value at the end of the year and that didn't make a dent. Paid sick days would decimate manufacturing. How can you run a mill or assembly line with people calling in sick all the time? A few bodies missing shuts down the line. Fors is probably the only politician that knows this. The rest are lawyers and drama teachers who have never worked a day in their lives.

This is a shitshow, but until we have herd immunity through vaccination it's going to carry on. Remember when we thought we would be out of this in a year? Now we are just praying for immunization by the end of September, and that looks doubtfull. Vaccines are the only way to the end, so for medical "experts" to pretend that there is a solution that doesn't solely rely on vaccines is bullshit.
 
This is a shitshow, but until we have herd immunity through vaccination it's going to carry on. Remember when we thought we would be out of this in a year? Now we are just praying for immunization by the end of September, and that looks doubtfull. Vaccines are the only way to the end, so for medical "experts" to pretend that there is a solution that doesn't solely rely on vaccines is bullshit.

Why September? By the end of June, minimum deliveries for vaccines are a cumulative 50M. 30M Pfizer, 12M Moderna, 6M AZ and small quantities of J&J. That's enough to fully vaccinate the adult population required for herd immunity. The US will have enough vaccines for their entire population sometime in May and will begin exportation as well, not counted in the 50M.

Lol @ the CBC (state-funded propaganda) putting out fearmongering headlines that cases "will remain high the entire summer." Sure, Jan. That's literally impossible.

Government will try to ruin our summer. And Canadians are too meek, they won't do anything about it. There's no line in the sand that the state can cross which will make people revolt, and that's an issue.
 
That's pretty generous. Wynne wasn't just a lame duck. She was a fucking disaster. Ford's heading down the same path, though.



I think under normal circumstances, he'd be fine. Shit, I'd be fine. You'd be fine. It's not an extremely difficult gig under normal circumstances. Crisis brings out politicians true skills and instinct. By my count, all these politicians have very little, and are lost little girls when shit gets real.

But yeah, that cop thing is gonna be a fucking mess if they're crazy enough not to pull it back.

Ford has been a complete failure way before covid happened.
 
Seems like we are at the breaking point with infections, so something has to happen. We aren't even through vaccinating 60-70 year olds, so we need to keep focus on them as they are more vulnerable and then focus on the GTA.

Ford isn't wrong that people are ignoring the rules and doing non-essential shit. The only outbreaks in my northern town have been from people travelling for costco runs or booty calls. The stopping of golf and other outdoor activities will only help in the sense that it will eliminate us getting together for a beer after. That isn't a major issue, but it is a contributor. The police will not enforce this. They will hopefully just break-up super spreaders. There are not enough of them and they won't waste their time.

Government paid sick days will shutdown many essential businesses in my opinion due to abuse. My company gives up to 10 paid sick days a year, and they all get used by almost every employee (in non-pandemic times). Mostly Friday's and Monday's coincidentally. We even brought in a policy that we will buy-back your left-over days at 50% value at the end of the year and that didn't make a dent. Paid sick days would decimate manufacturing. How can you run a mill or assembly line with people calling in sick all the time? A few bodies missing shuts down the line. Fors is probably the only politician that knows this. The rest are lawyers and drama teachers who have never worked a day in their lives.

This is a shitshow, but until we have herd immunity through vaccination it's going to carry on. Remember when we thought we would be out of this in a year? Now we are just praying for immunization by the end of September, and that looks doubtfull. Vaccines are the only way to the end, so for medical "experts" to pretend that there is a solution that doesn't solely rely on vaccines is bullshit.

Paid sick days are needed. Everyone deserves them.

Nurses that were exposed and had to isolate weren’t getting paid... how is that fair?
 
Why September? By the end of June, minimum deliveries for vaccines are a cumulative 50M. 30M Pfizer, 12M Moderna, 6M AZ and small quantities of J&J. That's enough to fully vaccinate the adult population required for herd immunity. The US will have enough vaccines for their entire population sometime in May and will begin exportation as well, not counted in the 50M.

Lol @ the CBC (state-funded propaganda) putting out fearmongering headlines that cases "will remain high the entire summer." Sure, Jan. That's literally impossible.

Government will try to ruin our summer. And Canadians are too meek, they won't do anything about it. There's no line in the sand that the state can cross which will make people revolt, and that's an issue.
Where i am they are only booking 2nd appointments for the old people getting their 1st shot now in August.
 
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