Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread

[Wet Blanket]

Looks like Ontarios notorious Anti-Masker and Republican Party of Canada (lol) champion has been grounded and added to no fly list.

 

[Bald1]

Rebranding yourself doesn't necessarily mean you are copying identity politics. It could mean inoculating your self against identity politics.

All I'm saying is If you want to get a loan from the Ethnic Vote Bank of Canada, you need to diversify your portfolio. And It's entirely possible to do so with out bankrupting your morals

Well, they at least have to send out the signal that Canadian conservatives aren't racists or bigots. I know that's a given, but the message were fed is that anything right of the crazy SJW movement is exclusively designed to kiss the straight white man's ass. And that's ridiculous.

As you've said, politics is a style over substance game nowadays.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

Peel schools just went full virtual. I’m sure others will follow.

 

[GoldenWolf87]

Peel schools just went full virtual. I’m sure others will follow.

And this whole virtual schooling is just ridicules. Kids needs to be social. Being always online is not the same.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

And this whole virtual schooling is just ridicules. Kids needs to be social. Being always online is not the same.

I agree. But it’s a pandemic. Until we get it under control, this is going to be the norm. Hoping they are back 100% in September

 

[rikibobby]

Looks like Ontarios notorious Anti-Masker and Republican Party of Canada (lol) champion has been grounded and added to no fly list.

If you were goin to draw a picture what you thought a douchebag looks like, you would draw that guy.

 

[Wet Blanket]

If you were goin to draw a picture what you thought a douchebag looks like, you would draw that guy.

100%

 

[Loiosh]

You know which economy hasnt slumped one bit since the “pandemic” and are actually doing quite well?


HOSPITALS and DOCTORS



How much OT did people in the medical field work in the last year and how much funding did they receive during this? Their pockets are nice and full so of course shutting down the outside world sounds ok with them. They are ballin’ out of control and are securing more work for the future of “medicine”

Hospitals and doctors have taken a beating during the pandemic. Most of their revenue comes from elective procedures, the vast majority of which have been put on hold during the pandemic.

The OT went primarily to a small demographic of highly specialized health care workers working in ICUs. People complained at length that this wasn't a problem because "look at how empty the hospitals are." It was never full hospitals that was the problem, it was always the strain on intensive care units.

 

[Ayin]

Hospitals and doctors have taken a beating during the pandemic. Most of their revenue comes from elective procedures, the vast majority of which have been put on hold during the pandemic.

The OT went primarily to a small demographic of highly specialized health care workers working in ICUs. People complained at length that this wasn't a problem because "look at how empty the hospitals are." It was never full hospitals that was the problem, it was always the strain on intensive care units.

Away with you and your obvious and confirmable facts, this is conspiracy time! Hospitals are making PILES of money off of the COVID scam! Piles I say!!!

 

[Andy Capp]

Hospitals and doctors have taken a beating during the pandemic. Most of their revenue comes from elective procedures, the vast majority of which have been put on hold during the pandemic.

The OT went primarily to a small demographic of highly specialized health care workers working in ICUs. People complained at length that this wasn't a problem because "look at how empty the hospitals are." It was never full hospitals that was the problem, it was always the strain on intensive care units.

Yes, you can throw all kinds of funding and PPE at the issue but if you don't have the highly qualified staff needed to run the ICU's...

 

[GoldenWolf87]

Lets forget Ontario is being closed up for another four weeks supposedly because there 413+ patients due to covid in ICUs in hopstials.

How many hospitals are there in Ontario and in Ontario largest city Toronto again? they have no problem setting up a vaccine rollout at Canada's wonderland. But arent able to set up filed hopstials like other countries have done in East Asia? to curve down the numbers at the hopstials from being "overwhelmed at ICUs"

My biggest issue with the lockdown is that there are these doctors that they seem to have more time to appear on the news rather then being with their alleged patients. Suggesting more lockdowns.. While the same lockdowns are hurting families and businesses.

 

[Andy Capp]

Lets forget Ontario is being closed up for another four weeks supposedly because there 413+ patients due to covid in ICUs in hopstials.

How many hospitals are there in Ontario and in Ontario largest city Toronto again? they have no problem setting up a vaccine rollout at Canada's wonderland. But arent able to set up filed hopstials like other countries have done in East Asia? to curve down the numbers at the hopstials from being "overwhelmed at ICUs"

My biggest issue with the lockdown is that there are these doctors that they seem to have more time to appear on the news rather then being with their alleged patients. Suggesting more lockdowns.. While the same lockdowns are hurting families and businesses.

Sigh. I don't get why you're so determined to believe anything but the truth. See below, the first link was from January. Then see the second; it's much worse now.


As ICU beds fill due to COVID-19, Canada’s largest air ambulance fleet sees more transfers
TORONTO -- At Humber River Hospital in Toronto, Ont., the intensive care unit is as stretched as the staff managing the COVID-19 patients filling their beds.

“Unfortunately, those patients are deteriorating quickly, in many cases needing ICU resources. So our ICU is in surge capacity almost every day,” said Dr. Tasleem Nimjee, the director of Medical Innovation at Humber River and an emergency physician.

As COVID-19 hospitalizations in Ontario continue to rise in tandem with record numbers of daily new cases, hospitals in the hardest hit regions are facing increasingly full ICUs, with Ornge, Canada’s largest air ambulance fleet, transferring more patients than ever from one busy ICU to a less busy one to ease the strain on overburdened facilities.

This week, Ontario launched an unprecedented effort to mitigate the issue by asking Ontario hospitals to reserve a third of its intensive care hospital beds for patients transferred from busier hospitals in other regions.

“People just have to understand that it's stretching our healthcare system pretty tight. And then on top of that, people still have accidents, people still have emergencies, they still have heart attacks and strokes, those things all have to be dealt with as well,” Michael McCallion, the operations control manager for Ornge, told CTV News.

INFLUX OF ICU PATIENTS

Ornge air ambulances are specialized and equipped to safely transfer the very sick. Each year, they make some 20,000 patient-related transports and are the only ones able to move patients on ventilators -- by land or by air.

These once-rare ICU transports are increasingly becoming the norm, with COVID-19 patients transferred to hospitals as far away as Barrie, Ont., some 80 km to 110 km away from Toronto hospitals.

“We have six ambulances currently assigned to us in this area right now,” said McCallion, who estimates they’ve become 30 to 40 percent busier.

“Two of those are currently working in moving and COVID patients. So essentially, 33 per cent of what we have on the screen is actually doing COVID patients at this time.”

Health officials had already predicted the coming influx back in December when the number of ICU patients were already hitting levels never seen before during the pandemic: January was almost certain to be worse.

Public health officials predicted more than 500 critically ill COVID-19 patients by late January -- nearly doubling the number of patients in ICU three weeks earlier. As it stands, there are now nearly 1450 COVID-19 patients in Ontario hospitals, with more than 369 of them in intensive care units.

And all signs indicate this kind of triaging will last for a while.

“I would think at least a month -- more likely two months. It’s difficult to predict,” Dr. Bruce Sawadsky, the chief medical officer of Ornge, said in an interview.

“I think we’re just at the beginning. We’re planning on an increase in critical care … that’s going to increase in the next couple of weeks, if not month.”

Between Nov. 1, 2020 and Jan. 3, 2021, a conservative estimate of about 240 patients were moved between intensive care units in Ontario, according to a manual review of data provided by Ornge. A year earlier, between Nov 1, 2019 to the end of January 2020, a conservative estimate of about 150 patients were transported from one ICU to another. That’s a 60-per-cent increase over a shorter window of time.

These figures also do not include patients who may have been transported from an emergency room to an ICU due to a surge, something Ornge says it has seen over the last month as well.

“‘Decanting’ of patients from one ICU to another ICU to create capacity is not usual business for Ornge,” spokesperson Joshua McNamara said in an email. As a result, the organization only began tracking the data in December.

That data showed that 49 patients were moved specifically to create more capacity. Of those, 32 were confirmed to have COVID-19, while 14 others did not necessarily have a COVID-19 diagnosis yet, but showed symptoms or may have travelled in the previous 14 days. Just three did not have the virus, or raise any red flags in their screenings.

The patients being transferred to ease capacity are usually more stable and relatively new to the ICU, but are still nonetheless quite sick, with most ventilated and sedated, according to Sawadsky.



More recently,

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...-capacity-as-key-lockdown-indicator-1.5371236
Not only are the variants of concern leading to more COVID-19 infections, but they’re landing more patients in the ICU.

“We know the variants of concern in Ontario double the risk for requiring ICU care with each individual infection,” Betts added.

And the patients ending up in hospital and in ICUs are younger.

“We are seeing younger patients on ventilators—many are parents of school-aged children. We are seeing entire families end up in our ICUs. We are caring for people who have contracted COVID-19 at work, or who have followed all the rules and only gone out for groceries. The impact of this virus has been disproportionate, infecting those with highest exposure risk, commonly from lower income and racialized communities,” the letter says.

Because of the number of COVID-19 patients filling ICU beds, people requiring major surgeries and procedures are having to wait even longer than previously expected. This comes just months after hospitals resumed surgery programs over the summer as case numbers dropped.

Betts said at his hospital, with the ICU at capacity, urgent patients who require critical care are tended to in the post-operative area, forcing other patients to wait.

“That puts back pressure on the surgical programs and means that patients that need potentially life-altering surgery are being asked to wait, and given the most recent rise in cases, we're probably going to have to ask them to wait even longer,” he said.

Even with unlimited ICU beds, the situation is untenable, the letter says.

“Even if we had unlimited ICU capacity, allowing these VOCs to spread exponentially is unethical. About 4 in 10 patients who come to the ICU with COVID will die. More than half of patients requiring mechanical ventilation due to COVID will die. Patients who survive a prolonged ICU admission and are discharged home can have significant long-term impacts on physical or cognitive function.”

This doesn’t mean that should you require urgent care, the hospitals in Ontario won’t be able to provide that care to you.

“For any patient that has an urgent need for medical care, come to the emergency department, we will find the care that you need to care, to take care of your condition,” said Betts.

There’s a system in place in Ontario to keep at least one ICU bed available in Ontario hospitals, but to do so, patients are being shifted around Ontario’s hospital system.

“Last weekend we had five patients and families consent to transition to Kingston and Peterborough to continue receiving their care,” he said. “But the same day we received six calls from other hospitals in the GTA from the west end, from downtown Toronto, from North York region, just within hours, asking if we can refill up those beds with patients having need.”

While Ontario Premier Doug Ford has funded more critical care beds throughout the pandemic, Betts said it’s not enough without properly trained nurses and doctors to staff those beds and tend to the patients in them.

“You can't just print a nurse off a printer and have them come to work the next day,” he said.

It’s not just a lack of beds and properly trained staff causing problems, important supplies are beginning to run low.

“Certain elements of care, for instance tocilizumab, which has been known as a life saving medication for patients with COVID, but we know our supply is quite limited,” said Betts. “And as cases ramp up, it's threatened and we're actually having to start thinking about rationing that life saving medication to patients that have this.”

ICU physicians have been on the front lines of the pandemic since it began, and their workload shows no sign of lessening.

“We frankly are burnt out, and we're seeing too much suffering and concern that having public health policy based upon a COVID-19 transmission tolerance of ‘how many ICU beds do you have left?’ is going to put patients at risk,” he said.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

If you were goin to draw a picture what you thought a douchebag looks like, you would draw that guy.

He should go to a real commmunist country and call law enforcement disgusting or whatever he called them. See if it’s really communist over here. Imagine this goof thinking he can educate anyone.

 

[GoldenWolf87]

Sigh. I don't get why you're so determined to believe anything but the truth. See below, the first link was from January. Then see the second; it's much worse now.


As ICU beds fill due to COVID-19, Canada’s largest air ambulance fleet sees more transfers
TORONTO -- At Humber River Hospital in Toronto, Ont., the intensive care unit is as stretched as the staff managing the COVID-19 patients filling their beds.

“Unfortunately, those patients are deteriorating quickly, in many cases needing ICU resources. So our ICU is in surge capacity almost every day,” said Dr. Tasleem Nimjee, the director of Medical Innovation at Humber River and an emergency physician.

As COVID-19 hospitalizations in Ontario continue to rise in tandem with record numbers of daily new cases, hospitals in the hardest hit regions are facing increasingly full ICUs, with Ornge, Canada’s largest air ambulance fleet, transferring more patients than ever from one busy ICU to a less busy one to ease the strain on overburdened facilities.

This week, Ontario launched an unprecedented effort to mitigate the issue by asking Ontario hospitals to reserve a third of its intensive care hospital beds for patients transferred from busier hospitals in other regions.

“People just have to understand that it's stretching our healthcare system pretty tight. And then on top of that, people still have accidents, people still have emergencies, they still have heart attacks and strokes, those things all have to be dealt with as well,” Michael McCallion, the operations control manager for Ornge, told CTV News.

INFLUX OF ICU PATIENTS

Ornge air ambulances are specialized and equipped to safely transfer the very sick. Each year, they make some 20,000 patient-related transports and are the only ones able to move patients on ventilators -- by land or by air.

These once-rare ICU transports are increasingly becoming the norm, with COVID-19 patients transferred to hospitals as far away as Barrie, Ont., some 80 km to 110 km away from Toronto hospitals.

“We have six ambulances currently assigned to us in this area right now,” said McCallion, who estimates they’ve become 30 to 40 percent busier.

“Two of those are currently working in moving and COVID patients. So essentially, 33 per cent of what we have on the screen is actually doing COVID patients at this time.”

Health officials had already predicted the coming influx back in December when the number of ICU patients were already hitting levels never seen before during the pandemic: January was almost certain to be worse.

Public health officials predicted more than 500 critically ill COVID-19 patients by late January -- nearly doubling the number of patients in ICU three weeks earlier. As it stands, there are now nearly 1450 COVID-19 patients in Ontario hospitals, with more than 369 of them in intensive care units.

And all signs indicate this kind of triaging will last for a while.

“I would think at least a month -- more likely two months. It’s difficult to predict,” Dr. Bruce Sawadsky, the chief medical officer of Ornge, said in an interview.

“I think we’re just at the beginning. We’re planning on an increase in critical care … that’s going to increase in the next couple of weeks, if not month.”

Between Nov. 1, 2020 and Jan. 3, 2021, a conservative estimate of about 240 patients were moved between intensive care units in Ontario, according to a manual review of data provided by Ornge. A year earlier, between Nov 1, 2019 to the end of January 2020, a conservative estimate of about 150 patients were transported from one ICU to another. That’s a 60-per-cent increase over a shorter window of time.

These figures also do not include patients who may have been transported from an emergency room to an ICU due to a surge, something Ornge says it has seen over the last month as well.

“‘Decanting’ of patients from one ICU to another ICU to create capacity is not usual business for Ornge,” spokesperson Joshua McNamara said in an email. As a result, the organization only began tracking the data in December.

That data showed that 49 patients were moved specifically to create more capacity. Of those, 32 were confirmed to have COVID-19, while 14 others did not necessarily have a COVID-19 diagnosis yet, but showed symptoms or may have travelled in the previous 14 days. Just three did not have the virus, or raise any red flags in their screenings.

The patients being transferred to ease capacity are usually more stable and relatively new to the ICU, but are still nonetheless quite sick, with most ventilated and sedated, according to Sawadsky.



More recently,

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...-capacity-as-key-lockdown-indicator-1.5371236
Not only are the variants of concern leading to more COVID-19 infections, but they’re landing more patients in the ICU.

“We know the variants of concern in Ontario double the risk for requiring ICU care with each individual infection,” Betts added.

And the patients ending up in hospital and in ICUs are younger.

“We are seeing younger patients on ventilators—many are parents of school-aged children. We are seeing entire families end up in our ICUs. We are caring for people who have contracted COVID-19 at work, or who have followed all the rules and only gone out for groceries. The impact of this virus has been disproportionate, infecting those with highest exposure risk, commonly from lower income and racialized communities,” the letter says.

Because of the number of COVID-19 patients filling ICU beds, people requiring major surgeries and procedures are having to wait even longer than previously expected. This comes just months after hospitals resumed surgery programs over the summer as case numbers dropped.

Betts said at his hospital, with the ICU at capacity, urgent patients who require critical care are tended to in the post-operative area, forcing other patients to wait.

“That puts back pressure on the surgical programs and means that patients that need potentially life-altering surgery are being asked to wait, and given the most recent rise in cases, we're probably going to have to ask them to wait even longer,” he said.

Even with unlimited ICU beds, the situation is untenable, the letter says.

“Even if we had unlimited ICU capacity, allowing these VOCs to spread exponentially is unethical. About 4 in 10 patients who come to the ICU with COVID will die. More than half of patients requiring mechanical ventilation due to COVID will die. Patients who survive a prolonged ICU admission and are discharged home can have significant long-term impacts on physical or cognitive function.”

This doesn’t mean that should you require urgent care, the hospitals in Ontario won’t be able to provide that care to you.

“For any patient that has an urgent need for medical care, come to the emergency department, we will find the care that you need to care, to take care of your condition,” said Betts.

There’s a system in place in Ontario to keep at least one ICU bed available in Ontario hospitals, but to do so, patients are being shifted around Ontario’s hospital system.

“Last weekend we had five patients and families consent to transition to Kingston and Peterborough to continue receiving their care,” he said. “But the same day we received six calls from other hospitals in the GTA from the west end, from downtown Toronto, from North York region, just within hours, asking if we can refill up those beds with patients having need.”

While Ontario Premier Doug Ford has funded more critical care beds throughout the pandemic, Betts said it’s not enough without properly trained nurses and doctors to staff those beds and tend to the patients in them.

“You can't just print a nurse off a printer and have them come to work the next day,” he said.

It’s not just a lack of beds and properly trained staff causing problems, important supplies are beginning to run low.

“Certain elements of care, for instance tocilizumab, which has been known as a life saving medication for patients with COVID, but we know our supply is quite limited,” said Betts. “And as cases ramp up, it's threatened and we're actually having to start thinking about rationing that life saving medication to patients that have this.”

ICU physicians have been on the front lines of the pandemic since it began, and their workload shows no sign of lessening.

“We frankly are burnt out, and we're seeing too much suffering and concern that having public health policy based upon a COVID-19 transmission tolerance of ‘how many ICU beds do you have left?’ is going to put patients at risk,” he said.

January that is the month which also where nursing homes were also getting hit with being infected. How many of those patients in ICUs at those hopstials are from nursing homes? the articles arent very. Its rather not shocking that the media has completely and ignored the nursing homes.

Sigh. I don't get why you're so determined to believe anything but the truth.

What truth? you mean the same crap that media has being saying and talking for since the second lockdown?


Number of Ontario COVID-19 patients in intensive care exceeds first wave peak

The latest Critical Care Services Ontario report obtained by CP24 suggests that there were 285 COVID-19 patients in intensive care as of Dec. 21, exceeding the first wave peak of 283 for the first time.

Nearly 40 per cent of all COVID-19 patients being treated in intensive care as of Dec. 21 were located in the Central health region, which covers a wide swath of territory that includes hospitals in Peel, Halton and York regions. Another 64 of the COVID patients in the ICU were in Toronto hospitals, including 21 at Toronto General Hospital and 11 at Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre.

Why a 2nd wave of COVID-19 is more dangerous than it looks
Covid-19: Canada's largest city moves back into lockdown
The articles i had shown you are from just last year. The same wording. Its clear they are trying to push for more harsher restrictions.

I guess the small businesses haven't being closed enough yet.

 

[Wet Blanket]

A temporary lockdown is a small price to pay for thousands of lives. Good call Canada. As an American I can definitely say when we had Trump I was really jealous of your guys leadership. Treudau is a beast

Problem is that we don't really have a lockdown.

Everything except for restaurants / bars (takeout only), personal services (hair / nails / tattoos), and gyms is open. Toronto malls are packed.

They have been dragging out half measures for so long hurting a lot of smaller businesses of that type. A real lockdown like we did before for 3 weeks would have had better results and been far less painful for everyone imo.

The rules are so unclear and change all the time.

 

[Andy Capp]

Problem is that we don't really have a lockdown.

Everything except for restaurants / bars (takeout only), personal services (hair / nails / tattoos), and gyms is open. Toronto malls are packed.

They have been dragging out half measures for so long hurting a lot of smaller businesses of that type. A real lockdown like we did before for 3 weeks would have had better results and been far less painful for everyone imo.

The rules are so unclear and change all the time.

Which is why I have been saying for a long while that half measures aren't effective--like wearing a mask improperly. You have to close down completely, pretty much, and wait until you've eliminated uncontrolled community spread or as soon as you start to open back up you will get hit with another wave of infections.

 

[rikibobby]

Since they care so much about health over money, I hope they start cracking down on fast food and alcohol. I won't hold my breathe though.

Oh look, a city liberal! Why the fuck do you guys have to tell people how to live their lives? Worry about yourself.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Canada is becoming a western dictatorship. It's intriguing and scary to watch it unfold, their ties with China are incredibly worrying because slowly but surely, they are becoming a western version of China.

 

[Wet Blanket]

Canada is becoming a western dictatorship. It's intriguing and scary to watch it unfold, their ties with China are incredibly worrying because slowly but surely, they are becoming a western version of China.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Please lock us down!

Please keep us safe!

Please take care of us, we're scared!

Please tell us you're looking after us, please!

You scared little child.