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Is this reasonable? or a slippery slope?


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Memorandum
To: Oregon State Board of Nursing Members From: Ruby R. Jason, MSN, RN, NEA-BC Executive Director
Date: October 13, 2021
Re: Temporary Rules for OAR 851-001

The Governor’s immunization mandate has resulted in the Oregon Health Authority (OHA) publishing rules regarding healthcare workers who are not in compliance with the mandate after October 18. The Department of Justice (DOJ) has determined that a healthcare worker licensed by an Oregon Healthcare Regulatory Board must be in compliance or could be found in violation of Oregon law. Model rules for temporary adoption have been issued by the DOJ and the expectation is that all Healthcare Regulatory Boards adopt these rules to address concerns that healthcare workers are caring for clients and interacting with the public without vaccination for COVID-19 after the Governor’s deadline.

The proposed temporary rules follow the requirements of the OHA. There is no requirement for specific discipline; this is left to the discretion of the Board. The OSBN version of the rules have been reviewed by our legal counsel.

M.S.C. _________________________, ________________________ that the Board (adopt/not adopt) OAR 851-001-0160 as a temporary rule pending further requirements by the OHA and DOJ or be made permanent in 180 days or less

https://www.oregon.gov/osbn/Documents/OSBN_BdMtgPublicPacketOctober.pdf


Saw this shared on another site. If it's a legit document (and it looks to be) it means that in Oregon, they're going to try and make it illegal to practice healthcare (as a nurse) without taking part in the vax experiment. Don't become a test subject, and you'll be subject to charges if you don't and continue trying to practice healthcare.
 
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Hazzard’s bullying tactics are coming back to haunt him.
By TONY MOBILIFONITIS

THE bully-boy bluffing tactics of NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard have been exposed in the ongoing case in the NSW Supreme Court because his barrister has been forced to admit the government “is not forcing” key workers to get mandatory vaccination.

And a top professor pushing vaccination has been forced to admit in the court that COVID vaccines are dangerous for pregnant women or those planning pregnancy, and those who get vaccinated are 13 times more likely to catch and spread the virus than an unvaccinated person. Boom! Boom!

All the while, Hazzard, Chant and company and their media cheer squad have been telling the people of NSW “the government is making vaccines mandatory”. But that is one big con and one big lie. No, they are “not forcing mandatory vaccinations” because they can’t. They don’t have any such lawful right, except in the most extreme, individual circumstances.

What Hazzard’s lawyer told the court is a defacto admission that our right at common law to informed consent to medical treatment prevails over the so-called “orders” and “directions” of chief health officers over the general population.

As pointed out by Mike Palmer of Know Your Rights and various lawyers, in Australian state law such orders lawfully only apply when a health officer identifies an individual deemed to be a threat to public health who is issued with a court-approved quarantine or treatment order.

The admission has exposed the fact that Hazzard and his so-called health minister colleagues and CHOs in other states have been using unlawful coercion and bullying of the general population to push the mass vaccination experiment.

The stunning court developments have been ignored by all but one mainstream media channel, the online Daily Mail UK. But even that report ignored the admission under cross examination by leading pediatrician, immunologist and government adviser Professor Kristine Macartney that the vaccines are experimental, dangerous and ineffective. Kudos to Mike Palmer who tracked down the court record.

But word is getting out and the media and the remaining tyrant premiers are panicking, trying to defend their position. The new conservative Catholic NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet is no doubt briefed on the court case and is pushing economic recovery to fix Hazzard and Berejikilian’s trail of destruction – which includes the lives of those maimed or killed by the experimental mRNA and other COVID vaccines.

The Daily Mail UK report was headlined “Bombshell as court hears no one in NSW HAS to get Covid jab”. The Australian mainstream media ignored this development, instead, wailing about the loss of Berejiklian and attacking Perrottet, one day into his new job.

Hazzard’s smirking but probably very nervous barrister Jeremy Kirk explained to the court that “mandatory jabs are simply a way to become exempt from some lock down laws and workers can choose not to be vaccinated but then will stay in strict lock down.” Oh how very nifty Mr Kirk. But that’s not how your client put it to the people of NSW.

“There is no requirement for vaccination,” Kirk told the court. “There is a condition on the exception (to the stay-at-home orders) which people can take advantage of, or not.” He went on to say the state probably did have the power to force people to be vaccinated if ‘some terrible disease’ like Ebola were threatening society.

Yes Mr Kirk, that’s right. The right at common law to informed consent to medical treatment can only be overridden when someone or some group show up with Ebola or some other plague and in these rare cases where there is a clear, serious public health threat, the medical officer gives an order, backed up by a court, for action to be taken e.g. quarantine or vaccination.

The case before Justice Robert Beech-Jones involves 10 complainants including a teacher, health care worker and mechanic, who are challenging the legality of the government edicts which “require” teachers and aged care workers to be vaccinated before returning to work and force some workers to be vaccinated against their will to be able to go to work.

They’re also fighting orders requiring authorised workers to prove they’ve been vaccinated before they can leave so-called coronavirus hotspots in Sydney and that Hazzard had no power to sign off on them.

NSW teachers and care workers have been told they must be vaccinated by November 8, or they won’t be allowed to attend schools and aged care workers “also need to have received at least one dose before the end of the month” with health care workers “having until the end of November to get both doses”.

Closing submissions in the case were heard last Wednesday October 6th. We await the judge’s rulings with interest.
 
Looks like Canada is turning totalitarian. Proof of vaccinations to go inside fast food restaurants now. God why are people so dumb

So the 15% of people here who aren't vaccinated have to get take out...boohoo.

Canada's people overwhelmingly support the vaccine passports.
 
I've only really seen pro-vaxx zealots get riled up. If you got the vaccine, I say "good for you and I hope you don't have any adverse side effects."

I don't want it but can understand why some people do.

It's when people say "nah, I'm not getting it" they're met with a barrage of

You're selfish...

It doesn't have 5G chips in it you conspiracy nut...

I hope you die a slow, painful, death from COVID...

etc.

A lot of people are synonymizing unvaccinated with infected. You can not have the vaccine and not be a walking petri dish of Coronavirus, they aren't mutually exclusive.

Exactly. I would also add that the CDC is stating that 99.999% of fully vaccinated people have not had a breakthrough case requiring hospitalization. If they are correct, there is virtually zero risk being around unvaccinated people if you are vaccinated yourself.

I don't understand why a vaccinated person would be upset that others aren't getting vaccinated. It has no impact on your health.
 
Oh you didnt know most ICUs run at 85% capacity before this new coronavirus?
No where near 90% vaccinated here do you live in fucking israel or California lol.
Its common knowledge now what ive been saying for past year and a half, natural immunity beats a man made vax anyday, so take your vax and shove it up where the sun doesnt shine til it quenches your thirst.
Follow the science remember lol

In Australia? Not for long term patients they don't. This is the current health care system in the state with the most covid in Australia.
From the article:
The 27-year-old had recently given birth when she suffered from a suspected postpartum hemorrhage – a serious but treatable condition that can lead to excessive blood loss and a severe drop in blood pressure. By the time she was accepted by the hospital, reportedly more than an hour after arriving at the emergency department, she could not be saved. That shouldn't happen in a first world couuntry...

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...-network-is-on-its-knees-20210901-p58nry.html

I agree natural immunity probably beats vaccination, but Australia doesn't emply those types of tests at all. We haven't had the wide spread covid that other countries have had. it still hasn't been allowed to run through our population. Our highest state is about to crack 2000 daily cases, before that in the first outbreak its was 750. We have reached 0 multiple times and in multiple states. Some states have had less than 1000. Natural immunity would be great, but there is no way to track it here and no way our population has got enough Australia wide. You could onlly run that in NSW and Vic.
Tasmania population: 541,071 (Sep 2020)
Total cases in the state is 236 ever
https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-cases/tas

Let's use natural immunity there...
 
In Australia? Not for long term patients they don't. This is the current health care system in the state with the most covid in Australia.
From the article:
The 27-year-old had recently given birth when she suffered from a suspected postpartum hemorrhage – a serious but treatable condition that can lead to excessive blood loss and a severe drop in blood pressure. By the time she was accepted by the hospital, reportedly more than an hour after arriving at the emergency department, she could not be saved. That shouldn't happen in a first world couuntry...

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...-network-is-on-its-knees-20210901-p58nry.html

I agree natural immunity probably beats vaccination, but Australia doesn't emply those types of tests at all. We haven't had the wide spread covid that other countries have had. it still hasn't been allowed to run through our population. Our highest state is about to crack 2000 daily cases, before that in the first outbreak its was 750. We have reached 0 multiple times and in multiple states. Some states have had less than 1000. Natural immunity would be great, but there is no way to track it here and no way our population has got enough Australia wide. You could onlly run that in NSW and Vic.
Tasmania population: 541,071 (Sep 2020)
Total cases in the state is 236 ever
https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-cases/tas

Let's use natural immunity there...
That stinks, luckily Americans would never settle for those types of lockdowns here over the flu
 
Stopped reading after throwing away their lives and life long consequences wtf???(ok read construction part too lol)
And i work construction and never missed a day of work and not one single old plumber, carpenter, electrician(many overweight, and been breathing silica from concrete, welding gas etc for years) has became ill more than the sniffles, and ive been on many jobs with over 500 workers with no running water.

In Australia? We just had a 2 week shutdown in one state. That's what I am referring to.I never said I agree with it, but a small group started to violently protest and people got caught up in it. Never mind the fact the construction industry was able to work throuugh the whole pandemic in the state previously, whilst other businesses had to shut and they said nothing until it was about them only.

They were shut down because they were being audited by work safe, got caught multiple times not following the site plans RE:Covid and made up 3/4 of the daily cases each day. They were then warned if they didn't start they would be shut down for a period and a bunch of idiots refused to do it, so they said screw it we will just vaccinate you all instead to take it out of your hands. I don't agree with it, but they have been given multiple chances because the state government (Labor) has most of their power and voting base as tradies due to their original fight for union rights. The majoiryt of the union base support vaccinations. You had an outlier of about 500 of a union about 144,000 strong.

Maybe read the full thing before you comment.
 
That stinks, luckily Americans would never settle for those types of lockdowns here over the flu

America did for certain states for months on end. They also allowed people to rampage throuugh the street and cause millions of dollars of damage in certain states. Our riots got shut down in 3 days.

The issue is everyone applies the US system to Australia. We have free medical, nearly none of the alternative treatments, no natural immunity country wide and until recently were tracking and tracing every single case to it's near point of origin. It means less people have died, but our back end approach has been different. We follow the UK in terms of vaccinate to 70-80% and then open with a projected death toll of another 2000 or so as a result. That should lead to about 3500 dead in a population of 25.69 million. or about 4 million less than Florida. For comparison Florida has had 56,667 deaths from covid as a single state. It's just a different approach to covid. I would rather open to be honest, but that's just because I ant to get back to BJJ. I feel for small business owners though in all this.
 
Man are you clueless…

Why because some random doctor or youtuber has a different opinion based off their personal experience with all this?

All i said is see YOUR doctor and that there are plenty of ways to enjoy your life in lockdown when we are literally 3-4 weeks from opening up due to vaccination numbers hitting. One state already is and the others have barely locked down ever past the inital 2 weeks. 85% of the population 16+ have taken the first dose. The majority will get the second unless they have a reaction and their doc says no.

I am not clueless, I just read the writing on the wall. No natural immunity in Australia, we haven't had the natural spread country wide to hit those numbers. Unfortunately we committed to the vax route and are kinda stuck now unless we lock the rest of the world ouut endlessly.
 
America did for certain states for months on end. They also allowed people to rampage throuugh the street and cause millions of dollars of damage in certain states. Our riots got shut down in 3 days.

The issue is everyone applies the US system to Australia. We have free medical, nearly none of the alternative treatments, no natural immunity country wide and until recently were tracking and tracing every single case to it's near point of origin. It means less people have died, but our back end approach has been different. We follow the UK in terms of vaccinate to 70-80% and then open with a projected death toll of another 2000 or so as a result. That should lead to about 3500 dead in a population of 25.69 million. or about 4 million less than Florida. For comparison Florida has had 56,667 deaths from covid as a single state. It's just a different approach to covid. I would rather open to be honest, but that's just because I ant to get back to BJJ. I feel for small business owners though in all this.
Caged animals have gsuranteed free healthcare, food and shelter, i have none but i do have free will
 
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