God Of War Creator HATES NEW KRATOS

[Ser das Trevas]

 

[HenryFlower]

ok

 

[Pliny Pete]

Has he seen JR Kratos vs La Parka, though?

 

[SwamiLeoni]

Jaffe is kind of a wild man and has had many disagreements with the direction new GOW has taken. I would say most people like this new iteration as Krato's evolution has made him more relatable and complex. I think on a personal level, most people would like to see growth in some way and keeping Krato's angry all the time would just lead to a continually one dimension character that will turn flat as the story lines will eventually run out. @Valhoven should probably move this one over to the arcade though.

 

[ICHEERTHEBULL]

Most, myself included, were pretty happy with Kratos is the last two.

 

[jx820]

Not liking the direction of it is one thing, but opposing character growth is an odd take.

This is the problem with creating something FOR someone else. Go indie or get a better deal in the future.

 

[TKing]

I like the work he put in on GoW and Twisted Metal but he's very bitter towards most projects that went on after him. He also openly fights with people on social media and rants.

What id give to have him back on a Twisted Metal project but he burned that bridge already too.

 

[My Spot]

David Jaffe needs to get off his fat ass and make another Twisted Metal game.

 

[TribalDrumz]

Greek Mythology > Odin bs

 

[Berserker13]

I like the work he put in on GoW and Twisted Metal but he's very bitter towards most projects that went on after him. He also openly fights with people on social media and rants.

What id give to have him back on a Twisted Metal project but he burned that bridge already too.

He's just mad that the new ones are better, more complete games

 

[syct23]

Go back to where you came from!

 

[Bacco]

Old Kratos was better, prefer the more straightforward brutality of greek arc... to me the real GoW ends at GoW3, one saga that really never "needed" to be better written with "relatable characters" or something

I don't say VG must be just retarded fun/action, but worked for Kratos
But on general i'm not fan of recent years Sony's boring "maturity" lol

 

[Madmick]

Jaffe is kind of a wild man and has had many disagreements with the direction new GOW has taken. I would say most people like this new iteration as Krato's evolution has made him more relatable and complex. I think on a personal level, most people would like to see growth in some way and keeping Krato's angry all the time would just lead to a continually one dimension character that will turn flat as the story lines will eventually run out. @Valhoven should probably move this one over to the arcade though.

Not liking the direction of it is one thing, but opposing character growth is an odd take.

This is the problem with creating something FOR someone else. Go indie or get a better deal in the future.

Not really. "Character growth" may just be a lofty way of saying, "Changing the character". Euphemism. Relatable and complex isn't necessarily enduring or mythic. Perhaps that is the point he is raising.

The literature of western civilization began with the "Rage" of Achilles in his unwavering pursuit of glory, and any who thought they could deprive him of it. He will never grow out of it. That's the point. If you believe you can grow beyond it, his choice, you have missed the point, and overestimated yourself as a mortal. You can't outgrow death.

 

[Berserker13]

Also the new ones are just mindless button mashing

 

[Dizzy]

I love Jaffe’s GoW and I love Barlog’s GoW.

Jaffe has come off like a bitter bitch for a while now though.

 

[Ser das Trevas]

Old Kratos was better, prefer the more straightforward brutality of greek arc... to me the real GoW ends at GoW3, one saga that really never "needed" to be better written with "relatable characters" or something

I don't say VG must be just retarded fun/action, but worked for Kratos
But on general i'm not fan of recent years Sony's boring "maturity" lol

 

[jx820]

Not really. "Character growth" may just be a lofty way of saying, "Changing the character". Euphemism. Relatable and compex isn't necessarily enduring or mythic. Perhaps that is the point he is raising.

The literature of western civilization began with the "Rage" of Achilles in his unwavering pursuit of glory, and any who thought they could deprive him of it. He will never grow out of it. That's the point. If you believe you can grow beyond it, his choice, you have missed the point, and overestimated yourself as a mortal. You can't outgrow death.

That's fine. Unless you need to meet financial projections for the quarter.

Homer had the good sense to kill off Achilles and make his sequel about Odysseus, but he didn't have shareholders to answer to.

 

[Madmick]

That's fine. Unless you need to meet financial projections for the quarter.

Homer had the good sense to kill off Achilles and make his sequel about Odysseus, but he didn't have shareholders to answer to.

We are all forfeit to the golden cow. Character and story, abstract as they are, will not be spared sacrifice.

 

[Zazen]

This guy hates everything. I'll always respect him for creating one of my favorite characters but he's been a very negative person for a while now. I think he is angry that the industry moved on without him. I have a feeling he might be a difficult person to work with.

 

[Zazen]

Also the new ones are just mindless button mashing

That's an interesting take because I actually feel like the opposite is true and this is coming from someone who still enjoys the old trilogy more. What about the old games make it less button mashy? I had more fun with them but it definitely isn't complex like Devil May Cry or even the original Bayonetta.