Economy GM lays off more than 1,000 salaried software and services employees

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  • GM is laying off more than 1,000 salaried employees globally in its software and services division following a review to streamline the unit’s operations.
  • The layoffs include roughly 600 jobs at General Motors’ tech campus near Detroit.
  • The job cuts represent about 1.3% of the company’s global salaried workforce of 76,000 as of the end of last year.
DETROIT — General Motors is laying off more than 1,000 salaried employees globally in its software and services division following a review to streamline the unit’s operations, CNBC has learned.

The layoffs, including roughly 600 jobs at GM’s tech campus near Detroit, come less than six months after leadership changes overseeing the operations, including former Apple executive Mike Abbott leaving the automaker after less than a year in March due to health reasons.

“As we build GM’s future, we must simplify for speed and excellence, make bold choices, and prioritize the investments that will have the greatest impact,” a GM spokesman said in an emailed statement. “As a result, we’re reducing certain teams within the Software and Services organization. We are grateful to those who helped establish a strong foundation that positions GM to lead moving forward.”

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GM declined to disclose the full number of layoffs, but a source familiar with the matter, who declined to be named because the information is private, confirmed more than 1,000 salaried employees would be laid off, including 600 in Warren, Michigan. Impacted employees were notified Monday morning.

The layoffs represent about 1.3% of the company’s global salaried workforce of 76,000 as of the end of last year. That included about 53,000 U.S. salaried employees.

The cuts come as automakers attempt to reduce costs and, in many instances, employee headcount amid fears of an industry downturn — and as they’re spending billions of dollars on emerging markets such as all-electric vehicles and so-called software-defined vehicles.
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Software, specifically monetizing it, has been a major focus for automakers, including GM, as it eyes recurring revenue opportunities such as subscriptions to boost profits.

The software and services division covers a wide variety of areas for the automaker, including infotainment, its OnStar brand, and emerging areas such as subscriptions and other vehicle features and development.

Two GM executives — Baris Cetinok and Dave Richardson — succeeded Abbott, who was named GM’s first executive vice president of software in May 2023. They are based at GM’s Mountain View Technical Center in California.

Cetinok, a veteran software executive, serves as senior vice president of software and services product management, program management, and design. He oversees the teams responsible for GM’s software roadmap design and the process for software program development, launch and improvements.

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Richardson, GM senior vice president of software and services engineering, leads software engineering, including areas like embedded platforms, digital products, commercial solutions and advanced driver-assistance systems such as GM’s Super Cruise.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/19/gm-...salaried-software-and-services-employees.html
 
Probably a good idea if they cut back on a lot of the, I guess it would be referred to as proprietary software, on vehicles. We really don’t need the OEM maps and shit.

Just have CarPlay and Android Auto, and reduce costs for consumers.
 
The number 1 goal for any company is to make money. The most expensive cost is labor. From day one it's do it faster, do it better and do it cheaper.

Which is why demands for better pay and more benefits is a fine line to walk. Not saying that has to do with why in this case the layoffs came. However look what at history and look at what's happening and gone to happen.
 
Probably a good idea if they cut back on a lot of the, I guess it would be referred to as proprietary software, on vehicles. We really don’t need the OEM maps and shit.

Just have CarPlay and Android Auto, and reduce costs for consumers.

Be prepared for $5k top of the line cupholders that come complete with a $60 monthly subscription and will brick if you don't get it serviced at the dealership.
 
The number 1 goal for any company is to make money. The most expensive cost is labor. From day one it's do it faster, do it better and do it cheaper.

Which is why demands for better pay and more benefits is a fine line to walk. Not saying that has to do with why in this case the layoffs came. However look what at history and look at what's happening and gone to happen.
Yes it is a fine line to walk but layoffs often happen regardless. It's also a fine line to walk as an employer. As in, in an attempt to slimdown their workforce can often backfire, leading to reduced production, unforseen quality problems, missed deadlines etc etc and ultimately losses in revenue and profit.
 
But they told me to learn how to program

:mad:
Actually as a software engineer I do understand I can be laid off. But I can say this there were some very toxic things in tech over the last 8 years.

A lot of unjustified hires with the idea that they had to grow. I have a multi-national client who hired 30 engineers. By year 1 they had nothing to do. By year 2, they were building useless things. But during COVID everyone went on a hiring spree for tech. If not for COVID I am sure a few software engineers would not be hired.

There were other things that caused a over saturation of the software engineering market. I will not get into those.

I will say this I work as a Software engineer and I get 2 recruiters a month asking me to move for 15 to 25% increase of my current salary.

Those tech people if they did the right things they will find jobs
 
I am in the industry. The auto industry is struggling with car flow/sales, parts delays, and quality issues. All automakers are feeling it. The economy and inflation, as well as high interest rates have crippled the market. You have stores with huge inventory that they pay a nut on, and getting penalized because the inventory is aging. They went so far into electric, and the sales don't support the production. Layoffs are happening at the dealer level for a year now. Now the factories.
 
I am in the industry. The auto industry is struggling with car flow/sales, parts delays, and quality issues. All automakers are feeling it. The economy and inflation, as well as high interest rates have crippled the market. You have stores with huge inventory that they pay a nut on, and getting penalized because the inventory is aging. They went so far into electric, and the sales don't support the production. Layoffs are happening at the dealer level for a year now. Now the factories.

Maybe the auto industry should adjust and stop selling 80k pickup truck grocery getters and maybe dealerships should stop buying 100's of them to sit on their lot.

Top 3 New Vehicles in the US during 2023:

1) Ford F series pickups
2) Chevy Silverado
3) Dodge Ram

Maybe the automakers should actually try to build affordable vehicles instead trying to plaster a 15inch touch screen with proprietary software all over everything?

Maybe they should build vehicles that they can repair without bullshit pricing.

Here is an example of what I went through...
Had to replace the battery in my keyfob. Car was bought used and did not have a second keyfob.

Changing the battery in my keyfob deprogrammed my key. What did it cost to get a new key/fob programmed to my car? 600 fucking dollars. Okay.

Meanwhile, these scumbags will be running back to big gubberment hand over fist for more handouts to keep screwing over regular people.
 
Anyone know what the job types eliminated were?
 
less innovating, more marketing, it's how GM works and why I don't touch their vehicles.
 
Maybe the auto industry should adjust and stop selling 80k pickup truck grocery getters and maybe dealerships should stop buying 100's of them to sit on their lot.

Top 3 New Vehicles in the US during 2023:

1) Ford F series pickups
2) Chevy Silverado
3) Dodge Ram

Maybe the automakers should actually try to build affordable vehicles instead trying to plaster a 15inch touch screen with proprietary software all over everything?

Maybe they should build vehicles that they can repair without bullshit pricing.

Here is an example of what I went through...
Had to replace the battery in my keyfob. Car was bought used and did not have a second keyfob.

Changing the battery in my keyfob deprogrammed my key. What did it cost to get a new key/fob programmed to my car? 600 fucking dollars. Okay.

Meanwhile, these scumbags will be running back to big gubberment hand over fist for more handouts to keep screwing over regular people.

Unfortunately regular people aren't looking to buy cheap, non optioned cars. They're getting fooled by the bells and whistles. Most of which are totally unnecessary and are designed to fix problems that people never really had in the first place.

There's been some good innovations, like when it comes to power and MPGs but there's also a lot of overly complicated, hardly helpful innovations that cost an arm and a leg when they break and weren't even necessary in the first place.
 
Maybe the auto industry should adjust and stop selling 80k pickup truck grocery getters and maybe dealerships should stop buying 100's of them to sit on their lot.

Top 3 New Vehicles in the US during 2023:

1) Ford F series pickups
2) Chevy Silverado
3) Dodge Ram

Maybe the automakers should actually try to build affordable vehicles instead trying to plaster a 15inch touch screen with proprietary software all over everything?

Maybe they should build vehicles that they can repair without bullshit pricing.

Here is an example of what I went through...
Had to replace the battery in my keyfob. Car was bought used and did not have a second keyfob.

Changing the battery in my keyfob deprogrammed my key. What did it cost to get a new key/fob programmed to my car? 600 fucking dollars. Okay.

Meanwhile, these scumbags will be running back to big gubberment hand over fist for more handouts to keep screwing over regular people.

Go try to buy a sedan from the big 3. Chevy has the Malibu, and that starts at $25k. Dodge is done making the Charger. Ford's doesn't even offer a sedan, their only car is the Mustang.
 
Go try to buy a sedan from the big 3. Chevy has the Malibu, and that starts at $25k. Dodge is done making the Charger. Ford's doesn't even offer a sedan, their only car is the Mustang.
American manufacturers have given zero fucks about cars (as opposed to trucks) for a decade or more.
 
Actually as a software engineer I do understand I can be laid off. But I can say this there were some very toxic things in tech over the last 8 years.

A lot of unjustified hires with the idea that they had to grow. I have a multi-national client who hired 30 engineers. By year 1 they had nothing to do. By year 2, they were building useless things. But during COVID everyone went on a hiring spree for tech. If not for COVID I am sure a few software engineers would not be hired.

There were other things that caused a over saturation of the software engineering market. I will not get into those.

I will say this I work as a Software engineer and I get 2 recruiters a month asking me to move for 15 to 25% increase of my current salary.

Those tech people if they did the right things they will find jobs
It's also more in this case that it doesn't make sense for auto companies to try and bring all the software development in-house. Just too big of a culture clash and lack of experience, better to just let Android Auto or Apple Carplay be the industry standards.
 
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