*Glover Texeira's niece was at Sandy Hook Elementary*

[Malas]

"gotten so F'd up"????

Society is less f'd up now than it ever has been. Learn your history.

Yes, yes. I know, violent crime rates are down.

I'm simply echoing a popular sentiment.

 

[JonesBones]

Yes, yes. I know, violent crime rates are down.

I'm simply echoing a popular sentiment.

Not from the 1950s they aren't. They are way up. And you didn't have these kind of mass shootings. But the media makes these shooters celebrities now and people who would have just hung themselves in private in the past, now go out in a blaze of glory.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Yeah, but I don't feel like he deserves to be paid for by anyone. Hang his ass and let's move on.

Executing prisoners is a costly procedure. Not saying it's not worth it, just saying it's not like they string a rope over a tree and just hang them anymore. So you're paying for them whether you do life in prison or execution. There's no free lunch. Of course, this pussy just killed himself because he knew he wouldn't be able to handle it.

Anyway, I never would have guessed Glover would have a connection to Newtown, a small, affluent Connecticut town. 'Small world' is right.

 

[UAK]

Not from the 1950s they aren't. They are way up. And you didn't have these kind of mass shootings. But the media makes these shooters celebrities now and people who would have just hung themselves in private in the past, now go out in a blaze of glory.

I doubt this, you could be right but in general the crime rates have gone down almost everywhere in the world since 1950s. Economy as a whole has improved greatly and crime has gone down extremely much since the early 1900s.

Sligthly off topic: there was a philosopher ( can't remember his name ) who said 2 things are certain, people always say things are getting worse but the world keeps getting better.

 

[Vaughany]

Almost as crazy as Sandy Hook being in Batman

 

[BudBundy**]

glover should be sent to adam lanzas dads house.

 

[youngsteinel]

Executing prisoners is a costly procedure. Not saying it's not worth it, just saying it's not like they string a rope over a tree and just hang them anymore. So you're paying for them whether you do life in prison or execution. There's no free lunch. Of course, this pussy just killed himself because he knew he wouldn't be able to handle it.

Anyway, I never would have guessed Glover would have a connection to Newtown, a small, affluent Connecticut town. 'Small world' is right.

Yeah I know how much all that costs, which is why I said hang him lol. Never going to happen to anyone, but that is a cheap way to kill someone no doubt.

 

[Malas]

Hug a tree somewhere else sissy.

The hell on earth this guy brought to innocent children warranted a slow and agonizing death. That doesn't mean that society is fucked up for wishing for it. Bludgeoning would have been just.

I'm a sissy when you're the one that has to name call in response to a different opinion? That's laughable. Mentally beat yourself off somewhere else, wannabe tough guy.

 

[JonesBones]

I doubt this, you could be right but in general the crime rates have gone almost everywhere in the world since 1950s. Economy as a whole has improved greatly and crime has gone down extremely much since the early 1900s.

Sligthly off topic: but there was a philosopher ( can't remember his name ) who said 2 things are certain, people always say things are getting worse but the world keeps getting better.

Violent crime rate in 1960: 160 per 100,000 people
Last year: 386 per 100,000

Crime rates are certainly down from the 70s and 80s though. Which nicely coincides with Roe V Wade decision. Many of the people who would have grown up in these bad environments with shitty parents and genes, were aborted and simply didn't have the chance to be idiots. Roe V Wade was in the early 70s, and the crime rate started dropping around the 90s, which is when those aborted kids would have been in their 20s, and fucking shit up. I'm not sure killing undesirables is really something to brag about though. Especially considering abortions are disproportionately people from minority/non-white populations.

 

[UAK]

Executing prisoners is a costly procedure. Not saying it's not worth it, just saying it's not like they string a rope over a tree and just hang them anymore. So you're paying for them whether you do life in prison or execution. There's no free lunch. Of course, this pussy just killed himself because he knew he wouldn't be able to handle it.

Anyway, I never would have guessed Glover would have a connection to Newtown, a small, affluent Connecticut town. 'Small world' is right.

I saw a swedish documentary about the death penalty process in the US and basically the documentary said killing someone costs more than a life sentence.

However, swedish documentaries about US politics/guns/death whatever usually have a liberal bias ( in this case anti death penatly ). I doubt killing someone costs more than a life sentence, I just can't see how that's possible.

 

[Toxxus]

I'd rather see Lanza serving a life sentence in solitary confinement so he could be literally bored to death.

 

[KungFuCow]

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2013/01/07/sandy-hook-elementary-shootings-had-personal-impact-on-ufcs-glover-teixeira/

Had no idea Texeira ever trained in Newton. I can't even imagine what he and his family are dealing with. Thank goodness his niece was okay though.

I do IT support. One of my client's granddaughter was there too... it is a small world.

 

[Malas]

Not from the 1950s they aren't. They are way up. And you didn't have these kind of mass shootings. But the media makes these shooters celebrities now and people who would have just hung themselves in private in the past, now go out in a blaze of glory.

Whenever I discuss this with somebody, they absolutely refuse to attribute any blame to the media. They want to believe that it always begins and ends with the person that actually does the deed, and I'm not sure why. Most people can't name more than one or two of the victims, but they certainly can name the shooter. Media definitely plays a role.

 

[PASTAFAR1AN]

If there was any justice in the world, Lanza would have been caught and sentenced to five minutes alone with Glover.

5x5 minute rounds imo

 

[UAK]

Violent crime rate in 1960: 160 per 100,000 people
Last year: 386 per 100,000

Crime rates are certainly down from the 70s and 80s though. Which nicely coincides with Roe V Wade decision. Many of the people who would have grown up in these bad environments with shitty parents and genes, were aborted and simply didn't have the chance to be idiots. Roe V Wade was in the early 70s, and the crime rate started dropping around the 90s, which is when those aborted kids would have been in their 20s, and fucking shit up. I'm not sure killing undesirables is really something to brag about though. Especially considering abortions are disproportionately people from minority/non-white populations.

You can cherry pick a time when it was better in one specific area ( in this case violent crimes ) but if you look at the bigger picture, violent crimes have certainly gone down over the long haul and if you look at crimes as a whole......

I am not from the states, I haven't studied US crime rates at all but it would surprise me if the states haven't gone a similar path as most ( all ? ) nations.

Of course there are variables that could effect crime rates that makes one certain time period look better than others for example: unusally high unemployment during that time, extremely strict laws, segregation, culture whatever. But as a whole society is getting better almost everywhere.

The world is getting better, that's the truth, deal with it.

Edit: Well actually, depression and suicide rates have gone up considerably in most wealthy nations compared to 40-50 years ago I think. I guess there are exceptions to the rule

 

[Spiderbite]

Violent crime rate in 1960: 160 per 100,000 people
Last year: 386 per 100,000

Crime rates are certainly down from the 70s and 80s though. Which nicely coincides with Roe V Wade decision. Many of the people who would have grown up in these bad environments with shitty parents and genes, were aborted and simply didn't have the chance to be idiots. Roe V Wade was in the early 70s, and the crime rate started dropping around the 90s, which is when those aborted kids would have been in their 20s, and fucking shit up. I'm not sure killing undesirables is really something to brag about though. Especially considering abortions are disproportionately people from minority/non-white populations.

Please buddy,
Don't think, you're only hurting the team.

 

[Judo gi**]

I saw a swedish documentary about the death penalty process in the US and basically the documentary said killing someone costs more than a life sentence.

However, swedish documentaries about US politics/guns/death whatever usually have a liberal bias ( in this case anti death penatly ). I doubt killing someone costs more than a life sentence, I just can't see how that's possible.

They tie up the courts with endless appeals processes. Which is much more expensive than locking someone in a concrete box with bars, and feeding them gruel.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

I saw a swedish documentary about the death penalty process in the US and basically the documentary said killing someone costs more than a life sentence.

However, swedish documentaries about US politics/guns/death whatever usually have a liberal bias ( in this case anti death penatly ). I doubt killing someone costs more than a life sentence, I just can't see how that's possible.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear carrying out an execution costs as much as a life sentence. As Judo gi said, there is a very long appeals process, and of course, it's not like the guy is scheduled for execution a week after sentencing. They are on death row for a long ass time, and during that period, there's lots of lawyering going on. I don't support the death penalty because I'd rather these guys be thrown to the wolves in prison, especially if their crimes were against children. Just don't put them in protective custody, and the prison system will execute them for you at a much cheaper cost. Prisoners have an interesting ethical system, where some crimes are acceptable and some are not. If a guy like Lanza had survived and was put in general population, he would have been brutally beaten to death. Of course, they would never put a guy like him in PC, but hey, it'd be a lot cheaper than pursuing an execution sentence or putting him in PC for the rest of his life.