GGG vs. Canelo, Who Won?

[AronaBeatsJones]

 

[AronaBeatsJones]

Fuck the Nevada Athletic Commission.

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

Corrupt as fuck...

 

[Snuc3315]

A judge taking a payoff from a promoter

Yeah, there can be no doubt, or denying of that. It was stupid too, because the decision was indefensible, a smart slimy a$$ judge would do a 116-112 at the very least. In this case there may have even been some collusion with a guy putting money on the scorecard, and she did her part to get paid.

 

[Kahran]

It rips your guts out over and over but when a fight this this comes together at last and it turns out to be a great fight , doesnt let anyone down and you are just waiting for this BS everytime.You feel like you yourself got robbed. I would strongly disagree with a close win for Canelo but there were a lot of close rounds but that 118-110 is insanity. Giving GGG only the 4th and the 7th? I had GGG by a few rounds like 95% of the watching world.

As soon as the fight ended I said to my sister "I'm worried". She said "Don't worry, Golovkin's got it." and I replied "Adelaide Byrd in Las Vegas." It's clear this woman is watching something completely different so her opinion should be discounted. It therefore ends up being 115-113 Golovkin on one card and a draw on the other. I'm perfectly fine with that. A majority decision win for Gennady.

 

[TexGolf]

I was rooting for Canelo

Scored it 115-113 GGG
Few rounds either way is totally understandable though. Giving Canelo 10 rounds isn't close to acceptable

 

[Po]

I had it for ggg based on volume and coming forward. Also breaking it down by round I thought he won more rounds... Unless if you give Alvarez round 10 because of that one good shot (which ggg rolled with and ate well) AND round 1 (ignoring all the jabs ggg landed that round).

However a draw is somewhat reasonable. Canelo hit him with cleaner snappier power shots and I've never seen ggg miss so badly so many times as Alvarez made him do.

 

[TexGolf]

I'd like to give Byrd the DMV eye test. At least it'd be an explanation. Obviously NSAC is an "equal opportunity employer"

 

[JayE]

As soon as the fight ended I said to my sister "I'm worried". She said "Don't worry, Golovkin's got it." and I replied "Adelaide Byrd in Las Vegas." It's clear this woman is watching something completely different so her opinion should be discounted. It therefore ends up being 115-113 Golovkin on one card and a draw on the other. I'm perfectly fine with that. A majority decision win for Gennady.

I don't think it's incompetence on Byrd's part that had her scoring it that wide for Canelo.

 

[rj144]

She looks like someone called Adelaide Byrd:

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[MariaCallas]

Showing no wear is not a scoring criteria. Again you are trying to give ggg credit for taking shots. Thats what you call canelo CLEAN PUNCHING. also, Hoping on a scooter and leaving the scene can be called ring generalship.

Yes, we know how judges can wiggle any way they wish using subjective criteria. I beelieve that landing significantly more punches, walking the other guy down every round, having the other guy running when you land, all equal "ring generalship" and "effective aggression."

In no world does any sane judge score it 118-110 for Little Red. Oscar is sending extra cases of Night Train or MD/2020 or whatever classy sauce that dear Addled Byrd drinks during fights.

 

[liteitup]

I had it 7-5 GGG. I can see it being a draw though considering Canelo Cracked GGG with more meaningfull power punches.

 

[Sakuraba7]

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We're lucky, anything else it would have ended up a LOSS for Golovkin and a win for Canelo.

One of the judges scored the Floyd fight a draw. I'm glad the third judge didn't give the score to Canelo like the first did. If Canelo won by split decision id go on a rampage.

But the fix was always in.

 

[Krimzon]

then he must think Dave Moretti is a bloody idiot

 

[Massapiece]

When I think of masterful performances I think of Floyd vs Corrales. You and I can agree to disagree on who won because it was a close fight but I wouldn't go as far as saying Canelo put on a masterful performance against GGG. He had moments but he wasn't consistent. GGGs pressure didn't allow it.

Rewatch it, i have. He was slipping, blocking, and parrying masterfully.

 

[steelcity77]

you don't win rounds by eating power shots.

you do by landing almost 50 more punches and continuously being aggressive and backing down the other fighter .. the lady who scored it 118-110 canelo is a disgrace .. she should be removed from any future fights immediately .. I'll tell ya what .. I'm not watching any other fight with that hack as a judge

 

[MariaCallas]

Honestly GGG probably doesn't even give a fuck bout the decision after all the money he's making. If anything he's happy about it because now he can do it again and make double the money. Win win for all the fighters and the dumb fans oblivious to how rigged boxing is.

He's probably elated that they didn't actually get to rob him of his jewelry like they obviously intended. Came in to Vegas, handled Canelito in a fun fight, got the public nod, and escaped without losing any titles or belts, or having a stupid loss on his record like Fedor's against TK or Pac's vs Bradley I.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

i dont know how you even rule that shit a draw....ggg had canelo from round 4 on.

this is clear cut corruption

This is what I thought. It was like a demolition derby. With Canelo looking like McGasser doing his most drunk looking Floyd impression. I thought Canelo would win but it Canelo lost very clearly. He is a type recepient of the whackiest judge's scorecards ever: 117-111 vs Lara, 114-114 vs May, being up vs Khan before the KO - it's almost like the fight doesn't even matter, Byrd is going to award atleast one card to him.

 

[Fuzzybabyducks]

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=20729255

Says it all right there^^^.

he went off after that with S.A. Smith...
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/stephen-a-smith-teddy-atlas-lose-their-minds-arguing-1818483829

 

[RandomUser12]

Teddy's wrong about Canelo fighting in spots to survive - that's always been how he fights, period. Short, sharp, explosive bursts followed with inactivity in between. He's never been a guy to sustain his work over an entire round.