News George Foreman passed away, aged 76

one of the biggest sporting legends of all time. one half of the biggest, most iconic boxing matches of all time. one of the scarriest, hardest hitting heavyweights ever. best comeback in boxing history becoming the oldest champ. made over 100 mil outside of sports, and a huge beautiful family.

how many people will leave a legacy that can even tickle that?
 
still the oldest heavyweight to win the title, that'll be there for awhile although with how weak the division is getting, someone will break that record soon.
 
still the oldest heavyweight to win the title, that'll be there for awhile although with how weak the division is getting, someone will break that record soon.
I actually think it'll be the opposite. George was still in with a natural light heavy the night he became the oldest champ at heavyweight. Fighters as old as George was then and fighters below cruiser that moved up to heavyweight won't be able to win world titles anymore. In today's era we've seen older guys in the division like Ortiz & Zhang make it into title contention in their early 40s but they never made it to the top. Both got knocked out trying to get there. Wladimir was dethroned at age 39 by Fury and tried again in his early 40s only to get knocked out by Joshua.
 
He was notably overweight in his second boxing career. It's possible it all caught up to him at 76.

Got to be honest, I know it's not necessarily the right time to even mention it, but I feel like the recent accusations filed against him may have had an effect. You don't want to deal with that kind of stuff in your mid-70's.

He looked to be in pretty good health and spirits before that. Of course, your body can fail you out of nowhere, no matter how good of a shape you're in, so it's all just speculation at the end of the day.

Anyway, somehow Foreman went from the scariest dude in the 70's to one of the most approachable gentle giants in the 90's. An incredible arc he had, not just as a boxer but even more so as a man.
 
He was notably overweight in his second boxing career. It's possible it all caught up to him at 76.
He was heavy for an athlete, but pretty normal for a regular guy.

76 is past average male life expectancy. It was just his time.
 
Got to be honest, I know it's not necessarily the right time to even mention it, but I feel like the recent accusations filed against him may have had an effect. You don't want to deal with that kind of stuff in your mid-70's.

He looked to be in pretty good health and spirits before that. Of course, your body can fail you out of nowhere, no matter how good of a shape you're in, so it's all just speculation at the end of the day.

Anyway, somehow Foreman went from the scariest dude in the 70's to one of the most approachable gentle giants in the 90's. An incredible arc he had, not just as a boxer but even more so as a man.
I doubt he wanted to deal with anything like that but I don't think any reasonable person really think he had to worry about it. I know it was ongoing but even with me too and all the cosby's/weinsteins, there were only a few women and absolutely no evidence. tough luck for some people but if it happened that long ago and you didn't or couldn't deal with it then, tough luck.

I'm arguing about MJ right now about the same thing, unless you can somehow come up with the numbers to file a civil suit like what happened with the catholic church, I don't see how anyone can do anything other than throw words around.
 
He was heavy for an athlete, but pretty normal for a regular guy.

76 is past average male life expectancy. It was just his time.
Black males have a 71 year life expectancy, a little shorter than the overall average, he lived a long life, boxers average is 67.
 
I actually think it'll be the opposite. George was still in with a natural light heavy the night he became the oldest champ at heavyweight. Fighters as old as George was then and fighters below cruiser that moved up to heavyweight won't be able to win world titles anymore. In today's era we've seen older guys in the division like Ortiz & Zhang make it into title contention in their early 40s but they never made it to the top. Both got knocked out trying to get there. Wladimir was dethroned at age 39 by Fury and tried again in his early 40s only to get knocked out by Joshua.
it's the comp, been saying that for 20 years when we started to see fighters in their late 30's defeat younger men. It won't take a special fighter to win at some point and some older guy will pull it off. Already, in earlier eras, any fighter as old as some of our pound for pound fighters would be looked at very skeptically. Until George won, the oldest guy to win the heavyweight title was Jersey Joe who was only 36. There was a reason that none of us thought George could pull it off but there really aren't those reasons anymore.
 
it's the comp, been saying that for 20 years when we started to see fighters in their late 30's defeat younger men. It won't take a special fighter to win at some point and some older guy will pull it off. Already, in earlier eras, any fighter as old as some of our pound for pound fighters would be looked at very skeptically. Until George won, the oldest guy to win the heavyweight title was Jersey Joe who was only 36. There was a reason that none of us thought George could pull it off but there really aren't those reasons anymore.
Right, but when you look at the actual record within the last 10 years (post-Klitschko era) none of the top heavyweights have lost their titles to an opponent that was 40+ nor have they lost to a fighter that moved up more than one weight class. I just gave several recent examples of contenders & former champs at that age that fell short of winning (or winning back) a world title. There's an explanation. In today's heavyweight era the average fighter is much bigger than they were in past eras and their athleticism has increased (PEDs, modern training methods, nutrition, etc). That's why you don't see geriatrics winning titles at heavyweight today or guys that started at light heavyweight or even lower. The heightened physical demands of this era don't allow for these types of embarrassing upsets to occur.
 
Right, but when you look at the actual record within the last 10 years (post-Klitschko era) none of the top heavyweights have lost their titles to an opponent that was 40+ nor have they lost to a fighter that moved up more than one weight class. I just gave several recent examples of contenders & former champs at that age that fell short of winning (or winning back) a world title. There's an explanation. In today's heavyweight era the average fighter is much bigger than they were in past eras and their athleticism has increased (PEDs, modern training methods, nutrition, etc). That's why you don't see geriatrics winning titles at heavyweight today or guys that started at light heavyweight or even lower. The heightened physical demands of this era don't allow for these types of embarrassing upsets to occur.
ok, I just don't think they are very good anymore. We'll see, if it happens and we're still around. I know you like todays guys.
 
ok, I just don't think they are very good anymore. We'll see, if it happens and we're still around. I know you like todays guys.
My point isn't really about how good they are or aren't. As I just explained they're bigger and more athletic than ever before. The physical & athletic demands are higher. So far it's prevented heavyweights aged 40+ from winning any of the 4 major world titles. It's also prevented fighters that started at middleweight or light heavyweight from jumping up to heavyweight and winning any of the 4 major world titles. Today there isn't a single champ or contender in the heavyweight division that fought below cruiserweight. You don't even hear about middleweights or light heavyweights moving up to try and win a heavyweight title anymore. It'd be nuts to even consider nowadays.
 
Got to be honest, I know it's not necessarily the right time to even mention it, but I feel like the recent accusations filed against him may have had an effect. You don't want to deal with that kind of stuff in your mid-70's.

He looked to be in pretty good health and spirits before that. Of course, your body can fail you out of nowhere, no matter how good of a shape you're in, so it's all just speculation at the end of the day.

Anyway, somehow Foreman went from the scariest dude in the 70's to one of the most approachable gentle giants in the 90's. An incredible arc he had, not just as a boxer but even more so as a man.
I totally forgot about that. But yea, he saw what happened to Bill Cosby.
Psychologically it can take a toll on a man at that age.

The trial itself would be nerve-wracking with all his children watching.
 
I totally forgot about that. But yea, he saw what happened to Bill Cosby.
Psychologically it can take a toll on a man at that age.

The trial itself would be nerve-wracking with all his children watching.
honestly don't think it would have gotten that far, although, in these times, it's hard to say. 3 women aren't comparable to the over 60 that came out for cosby. No telling how much it weighed on his mind though.
 
honestly don't think it would have gotten that far, although, in these times, it's hard to say. 3 women aren't comparable to the over 60 that came out for cosby. No telling how much it weighed on his mind though.
3 to over 60? I didn't know the numbers.

The only number I know is that they were under 16 in R. Kelly's case lol
 
3 to over 60? I didn't know the numbers.

The only number I know is that they were under 16 in R. Kelly's case lol
george's were over 50 years ago, if he did do it, sorry to say, they need to just live with it. People can't come up with this shit 50 years later with no proof, no witness'. It was ongoing but that doesn't mean it would have went anywhere. I notice the people in the legal business take as great pleasure in fucking with people as they do in actually punishing people.
 
and all lived comparatively short lifespans. small wonder many champions don't want their kids going into this sport.
Sounds like only Frazier died prematurely. Average life for an African-American is 73 years old. They lived about right for their era.
 
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