Social Gender ideology is dying, common sense prevailing

[kflo]

I have eyeballs. The vast majority of tranny's do not pass. Been to Thailand twice.

Your eyeballs tell you when you can’t tell? Lol…..

 

[SLUG1186]

Is your community white nationalists and neo-Nazis?

LOL, everyone that doesn't agree with me is a racist nazi!!!!

 

[The_Renaissance]

I have eyeballs. The vast majority of tranny's do not pass. Been to Thailand twice.

Exactly, and there's also the elephant in the room of the "tranny voice". If you've heard one, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Unmistakeable.

 

[kflo]

LOL, everyone that doesn't agree with me is a racist nazi!!!!

No, it’s trying to pretend the fringes represent the masses. Which is what you did. You don’t like it, do you……..

 

[SLUG1186]

No, it’s trying to pretend the fringes represent the masses. Which is what you did. You don’t like it, do you……..

Calling out the lies and manipulations that LGBTQ+ activists spew about gender and sexuality and their push to try and normalize perverted behaviors onto kids is not pretending the fringe represent the masses.

That is what the group openly promotes ala drag queen story hour, GSA clubs for students(Gay-Straight Alliance or more inclusively now known as Gender - Sexuality Alliance), and supporting policies to allow teachers to hide info from parents so they can be ideologically groomed.

 

[RockyLockridge]

No, it’s trying to pretend the fringes represent the masses. Which is what you did. You don’t like it, do you……..

they aren't the fringe though, they are the majority of people. Media has it pumped up to tell you that it isn't the majority of people but it is. Most people are not homophobic, but the trans people do not fall under the same umbrella, Many people who are gay agree with this as well, Of course their own community is cannibalistic and will quickly turn on anyone homosexual who is not approving of these Individuals but the reason why the Left has so much push back on this issue is that it's not universally accepted as people want you to believe. I believe It played part in trump becoming president again.

 

[kflo]

they aren't the fringe though, they are the majority of people. Media has it pumped up to tell you that it isn't the majority of people but it is. Most people are not homophobic, but the trans people do not fall under the same umbrella, Many people who are gay agree with this as well, Of course their own community is cannibalistic and will quickly turn on anyone homosexual who is not approving of these Individuals but the reason why the Left has so much push back on this issue is that it's not universally accepted as people want you to believe. I believe It played part in trump becoming president again.

You think the majority of those who aren’t anti-trans are pro phile? You think this is honest good faith dialogue?

 

[TrueBias]

I was thinking 2 days ago..

If 100% of all these "trans" folks disappeared, how much would anyone care? Removing loved ones from the "snap," as to eliminate bias, I dont think people would mind. I'd wager the world would be happier.

 

[RockyLockridge]

You think the majority of those who aren’t anti-trans are pro phile? You think this is honest good faith dialogue?

Never said anything about s

 

[ermac88]

Why'd you leave off the +? Is it because it represents things like philia and bestiality, that your community wants to make more acceptable? Like referring to philes as minor attracted persons so as to not offend them......

Someone say pe0phelia!!



Where da party at?

"“I’ve known Jeff [Epstein] for 15 years. Terrific guy, He’s a lot of fun to be with."

 

[IDGETKTFO]

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[RoastBeast]

Why do you care?
You're obsessed.
You're a Nazi.
You're anti trans.
You're a bigot.
It's none of your business.
You can't tell if someone is trans.
You must be gay yourself.

Absolutely riveting debate work here by the progressives.

 

[nonoob]

Jesse Holzman of Chicago, a woman who describes herself as a "Queer, Non-binary, Consensually Non-monogamous, Intersectional Feminist, Anti-Racist, Activist, Educator and Scholar," said that "ensuring access to (girls') bathrooms and changing rooms is not controversial."

Holzman said that "research" shows middle school girls "do better, academically, socially, and emotionally" when boys are allowed to watch them undress in school locker rooms.

Jesse Holzman - xy cannot trans-form you from being a male.

You believe that men can not become women, and shouldn't be afforded the same access to women's spaces as actual women.

Hate to break it to you, but that's "transphobic".

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It’s not totally dead in some circles.

Cali dems killed vote today banning XY MEN from endangering girls and women in sports.

Newsome smiled after and stayed silent, women are damned as far as he is concerned.

 

[kflo]

Never said anything about s

that’s what you were responding to……

 

[lowlife]

Thank God we're tackling the important issues here. Both sides are bat shit crazy when it comes to this stuff.

 

[EndlessCritic]

More proof that this thread is wrong: https://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bccrt/doc/2025/2025bccrt398/2025bccrt398.html

British Columbia has legislation which lets you sue someone for sharing "intimate images" of you without your permission.

A transgender woman successfully sued a woman for the crime of photoshopping her head on a male body. The transgender woman was awarded $7,500 for this horrible offence.

Per the tribunal member making the award:

"15. I will describe the image in as little detail as necessary to explain my damages award. AQ is a trans woman. BT is an avowed anti-trans activist. The image BT shared had a clear purpose of depicting AQ as a man by altering an image to show AQ’s head on a masculine body.

16. AQ claims general, aggravated and punitive damages. General damages compensate for the mental and emotional harm from the non-consensual sharing of an intimate image. Devoid of the anti-trans context, the image at issue is relatively benign. The harm associated with sharing the image does not come from anything particularly explicit or graphic in it. Rather, the image is harmful because it dehumanizes AQ and denies her gender identity. I accept AQ’s evidence that the image was hurtful, embarrassing, offensive, and distressing. I find that it is an offence to her dignity. BT also disseminated it publicly within an online context around other anti-trans messaging. I find that AQ is entitled to compensation under the IIPA for this harm."

 

[Crazy Source]

Thank God we're tackling the important issues here. Both sides are bat shit crazy when it comes to this stuff.

Got their dicks in one and the mouse in the other.

 

[krelianx]

Gender and sex have always been synonymous with one another until activists started redefining it. It's a flat out lie to say that sex and gender are separate. There are men that are more feminine and women who are more masculine, it doesn't mean they are the opposite gender/sex. Being a man or woman is not a feeling, it is a state of being. You are what you are. Learn to live with it and stop trying to force your ridiculous queer cult onto people.

It was proven with the grievance studies that most of the research regarding transgenderism and queerness, are written by activists and based on absolute non scientific nonsense. The link you posted for "confusion on sex and gender" is a paper that literally uses other activist papers as it's research.

"To dismantle rigidly binary sex categorization, we propose the adoption of a biocultural and queer theoretical approach to forensic sex estimation and in sexual dimorphism research that challenges heteronormative assumptions, questions typological two-sex categorization, and combats the presumptions that gender and sex are stable, independent entities that convey universal meaning. Relatedly, the expansion of trans-oriented research, which is supported by 95.8% of respondents, will further improve methodological accuracies." = gender activist word slop


If you've done the research like you've said, rather than parroting activist papers posing as scientific literature, then you would know this. But I guess your cool with turning children into confused, life long medical patients. This is the new conversion therapy for gay kids.

You are a liar.

Gender and sex used synonymously before the 1940s, but Bentley who was a psychologist drew a conceptual distinction in 1945, and later in the 1950s John Money (sexologist and psychologist) among others proposed to distinguish the two in order to separate biological and social determinations. Money and Bentley were scientists who pioneered research in the field. Money was a professor at Johns Hopkins. Bentley was a psychologist.

Neither were "activists".

The distinction became developed in the humanities (philosophy, political theory...) throughout the 60s and 70s, partially trough second wave feminists, and later in the 90s was developed among others by people like Judith Butler (who takes an even more radical social constructivist approach).

Many were activists, many were academics who were not activists.

The paper that you quote the abstract from has a section that defines the methodology and the process of certification by the IRB, and was published in Forensic Anthropology, a leading peer-reviewed journal. The authors are all professors and academics. The leading author, Sean Tallman, is an authority in the field of forensic biology.

About Professor Tallman​

Professor Sean Tallman is presently a 2023-2024 Fulbright U.S. Scholar in Public Health at the University of Cape Town and Stellenbosch University, South Africa. He is an Associate Professor in the Department of Anatomy & Neurobiology at the Boston University Chobanian and Avedisian School of Medicine with secondary appointments in the Department of Anthropology and Program in Archaeology at Boston University. He heads the Forensic and Bioanthropology Laboratory (FAB Lab) Group, teaches, and advises students the M.S. Program in Forensic Anthropology at the Chobanian and Avedisian School of Medicine. Sean teaches courses in human osteology, method and theory in biological anthropology, bioarchaeology, forensic anthropology, and human rights. Additionally, he is a Registered Professional Archaeologist (RPA), Fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences (AAFS), and Associate Editor for American Anthropologist and Yearbook of Biological Anthropology. He received his Ph.D. from the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, M.A. from the State University of New York, Binghamton, B.A. from the University of Washington, and A.A. from Shoreline Community College.

Sean has held positions of Forensic Anthropologist, Osteologist, Archaeologist, Consultant, and Anthropology Instructor in various contexts. In particular, he served as a Forensic Anthropologist with the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command’s Central Identification Laboratory (now DPAA), where he contributed to the identification of numerous U.S. service members killed during past conflicts, and led archaeological recovery missions in France, Germany, Laos, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, and Vietnam. He has conducted skeletal biology research in Japan, Thailand, and South Africa.

The paper is a survey about how forensic anthropologists treat and categorize gender/sex and transgendered individuals. It's a survey covering over one hundred and twenty researcher feedback responses.

Show me the "proof" that most research done on transgender and queerness is done by activists. Also, questions concerning the distinction between gender and sex do not exclusively bear on issues of transgenderism and queerness.

Who the fuck are you to say that a conceptual distinction drawn by scientists and accepted across the scientific community is a lie?

You talk as if science was always in a position to understand the relation between psychology and biology, and thus that the conceptual frameworks of the past must be somehow immutable.

It is not abnormal in science for concepts to be revised upon the acquisition of more information and new methods, theories, and approaches. The development of sexology in the 20th Century has been significant. People forget that the social sciences, like psychology and sociology, are not very old at all, and to this day are not terribly developed in relation to the natural sciences. The attempt to extend the principles of mechanistic and functional explanation from the 17th Century scientific revolutions in physics and cosmology to other domains is not exactly easy.

But let's see what you have to offer, in response to over 75 years of research across the social and natural sciences, and humanities.

"There are men that are more feminine and women who are more masculine, it doesn't mean they are the opposite gender/sex. Being a man or woman is not a feeling, it is a state of being. You are what you are."

Which shows that you are not only a liar, and ignorant, but a moron. Do you seriously, honestly think anyone serious thinks that the way one distinguishes sex and gender is by noticing that biological males/females can exhibit varying degrees of masculity/femeninity? You really think that gender is distinguished from sex that way? Really, is that your retort?

Pretty sad.

 

[krelianx]

Nail on the head. Most of the "gender" papers are ideological horseshit written by actual queers that have a direct interest in the validation of their made-up conclusions, and they camouflage it under the veneer of science. and since a lot of the scientific funding came with the diversity tag, people chose not to make a fuss about it and just ignore how unimpeachembly horseshit these papers are, so their careers don't suffer.

imagine using self-identification as a scientific data point.
absolute steaming horseshit.

Imagine using your own intuitions and the echo chamber of a karate forum as a data-point that overrides scientific research.

 

[RoastBeast]

You are a liar.

Gender and sex used synonymously before the 1940s, but Bentley who was a psychologist drew a conceptual distinction in 1945, and later in the 1950s John Money (sexologist and psychologist) among others proposed to distinguish the two in order to separate biological and social determinations. Money and Bentley were scientists who pioneered research in the field. Money was a professor at Johns Hopkins. Bentley was a psychologist.

Neither were "activists".

The distinction became developed in the humanities (philosophy, political theory...) throughout the 60s and 70s, partially trough second wave feminists, and later in the 90s was developed among others by people like Judith Butler (who takes an even more radical social constructivist approach).

Many were activists, many were academics who were not activists.

The paper that you quote the abstract from has a section that defines the methodology and the process of certification by the IRB, and was published in Forensic Anthropology, a leading peer-reviewed journal. The authors are all professors and academics. The leading author, Sean Tallman, is an authority in the field of forensic biology.

About Professor Tallman​

Professor Sean Tallman is presently a 2023-2024 Fulbright U.S. Scholar in Public Health at the University of Cape Town and Stellenbosch University, South Africa. He is an Associate Professor in the Department of Anatomy & Neurobiology at the Boston University Chobanian and Avedisian School of Medicine with secondary appointments in the Department of Anthropology and Program in Archaeology at Boston University. He heads the Forensic and Bioanthropology Laboratory (FAB Lab) Group, teaches, and advises students the M.S. Program in Forensic Anthropology at the Chobanian and Avedisian School of Medicine. Sean teaches courses in human osteology, method and theory in biological anthropology, bioarchaeology, forensic anthropology, and human rights. Additionally, he is a Registered Professional Archaeologist (RPA), Fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences (AAFS), and Associate Editor for American Anthropologist and Yearbook of Biological Anthropology. He received his Ph.D. from the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, M.A. from the State University of New York, Binghamton, B.A. from the University of Washington, and A.A. from Shoreline Community College.

Sean has held positions of Forensic Anthropologist, Osteologist, Archaeologist, Consultant, and Anthropology Instructor in various contexts. In particular, he served as a Forensic Anthropologist with the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command’s Central Identification Laboratory (now DPAA), where he contributed to the identification of numerous U.S. service members killed during past conflicts, and led archaeological recovery missions in France, Germany, Laos, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, and Vietnam. He has conducted skeletal biology research in Japan, Thailand, and South Africa.

The paper is a survey about how forensic anthropologists treat and categorize gender/sex and transgendered individuals. It's a survey covering over one hundred and twenty researcher feedback responses.

Show me the "proof" that most research done on transgender and queerness is done by activists. Also, questions concerning the distinction between gender and sex do not exclusively bear on issues of transgenderism and queerness.

Who the fuck are you to say that a conceptual distinction drawn by scientists and accepted across the scientific community is a lie?

You talk as if science was always in a position to understand the relation between psychology and biology, and thus that the conceptual frameworks of the past must be somehow immutable.

It is not abnormal in science for concepts to be revised upon the acquisition of more information and new methods, theories, and approaches. The development of sexology in the 20th Century has been significant. People forget that the social sciences, like psychology and sociology, are not very old at all, and to this day are not terribly developed in relation to the natural sciences. The attempt to extend the principles of mechanistic and functional explanation from the 17th Century scientific revolutions in physics and cosmology to other domains is not exactly easy.

But let's see what you have to offer, in response to over 75 years of research across the social and natural sciences, and humanities.

"There are men that are more feminine and women who are more masculine, it doesn't mean they are the opposite gender/sex. Being a man or woman is not a feeling, it is a state of being. You are what you are."

Which shows that you are not only a liar, and ignorant, but a moron. Do you seriously, honestly think anyone serious thinks that the way one distinguishes sex and gender is by noticing that biological males/females can exhibit varying degrees of masculity/femeninity? You really think that gender is distinguished from sex that way? Really, is that your retort?

Pretty sad.

You might want to look up John Money's wiki before you go around gloating about that creep.

Where is this convincing scientific research proving that gender and sex are completely different? You've essentially posted nothing so far other than calling the guy a moron for being logical. Enough gloating about the meaningless qualifications of others and start stating all this science that you think exists on this topic.

If you have a convincing argument, then write it out and be prepared to defend it. I'll let you state your side before I go for the knockout blow by asking you what a woman is.