Gary Johnson is a Complete Idiot

[UpaLoompa]

Doesn't seem like I could sue anyone, does it? That also doesn't mean if litigation of any given LLC isn't the solution then there's no other solution, right?

So what are the other options?
Regulation is one alternative, one which we can point to evidence to demonstrate efficacy. That's where you keep dismissing evidence.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Okay bub. It's clear from his full response to you and our subsequent exchange that he understood what I meant but was confused because he himself recognized the implications of the fourth. His interpretation of the fourth was subsequently discussed and the point that Scalia disagreed with him made. If you're still confused about any of what was said, let me know.

Funny how he just said again he wasn't clear. But whatever.

I honestly thought you were playing dumb. I don't think I know anyone that gives a shit about constitutional issues that isn't familiar with at least the generalities of "right to privacy".

Being familiar is the same as knowing exactly which aspect of it you're referring to? First thing I thought of was abortion. Next was the 4th Amendment. Lots of dissimilarities there. And since I couldn't decipher how that was a complete answer to my question I made the effort to clarify your terms. Why? Because it might help me understand. I was hoping you'd give me a hypothetical argument that had to do with state's rights and then explain why it was wrong as per the 9th. Not just throw out three terms and go "see".

Here's me.

These people you're imagining, what are the prominent arguments they make that fail to account for the 9th?

See how I'm asking for examples of actual arguments that "state's rights tards" make?

Pretty much all strict constructionists and anytime someone brings up "imagined rights".
Hell, the "right to privacy"--which actually is based on well reasoned arguments and other amendments--would be one prominent example.

See how you now switch it to "constructionists"? Does everybody know that that's the same as a "state's rights tard"? Seems to me you made up a term, switched it to something else that doesn't seem to be exclusively related to state's rights, then had it subsequently pointed out that you didn't even use that term correctly. And this is all supposed to be clear as a bell to me?

In retrospect maybe you're just saying that the 9th allows SCOTUS to dictate whatever it wants to the states provided they can rationalize it as some understood right. Fair enough.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Then again, he seems to have interpreted "playing dumb" as me calling him dumb, which again gets back to my earlier point about his odd usage of language.

Seems the problem here is you heard some poster make this accusation and now you're operating on confirmation bias.

Here's where you're wrong, and I'll add wildly misinterpreting to suit your narrative. Where you're calling me dumb itt is not by suggesting I'm playing dumb. It's the going out of your way to scoff at how I don't know basic terms such that I'm not fit to have this discussion with you. Never once stopping to consider that such a practice is common. Read many contracts? Lawyers must be pretty dumb or playing dumb based on how often they include definitions of terms.

If you can find a case of me using terms incorrectly, in spite of any clarification, please point it out. Otherwise it's just hot air on your part.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Local government is almost always more effective than federal governments though for the same reasons privatization is better than any governance at all; proximity of information.

Local governors will have a better "pulse" of their people than someone trying to organize hundreds of millions of people many thousands of miles away.

This isn't based on any kind of observation, is it? Studies? Seems like dogma. What is your response to Madison's arguments against your claims here?

 

[Greoric]

This isn't based on any kind of observation, is it? Studies? Seems like dogma. What is your response to Madison's arguments against your claims here?

Well the opposite argument seems a little silly.

I suppose you think its the reverse? The further you're removed both geographically as well as in added tasks the more effective governance becomes?

Is this kind of like your Hillary is the most honest politician and individual liberty is slavery shticks?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Well the opposite argument seems a little silly.

I suppose you think its the reverse? The further you're removed both geographically as well as in added tasks the more effective governance becomes?

I don't think there's a simple rule that applies. You have to look out your window. Generally, though, voters are far less-informed about local politics and they vote for local politicians on the basis of their views on national issues.

Generally, the worst, most oppressive gov't practices are at the local level, though.

Is this kind of like your Hillary is the most honest politician and individual liberty is slavery shticks?

Clinton objectively is one of the most honest politicians. And your last statement makes no sense, and you're dishonestly attributing it to me. Try to fight the temptation to engage like that.

 

[Blackened]

I don't think there's a simple rule that applies. You have to look out your window. Generally, though, voters are far less-informed about local politics and they vote for local politicians on the basis of their views on national issues.

Generally, the worst, most oppressive gov't practices are at the local level, though.



Clinton objectively is one of the most honest politicians. And your last statement makes no sense, and you're dishonestly attributing it to me. Try to fight the temptation to engage like that.

If only I could like half your post and not like the other half. I'll just comment and say I agree with the bold bit.

 

[Big_Chief_Stove]

Sounds like he'll fit right in

 

[Jack V Savage]

If only I could like half your post and not like the other half. I'll just comment and say I agree with the bold bit.

The whole thing is accurate and really needs to be said, though.

 

[RockstarChris]

Aleppo the home of isis lol

 

[Greoric]

I don't think there's a simple rule that applies. You have to look out your window. Generally, though, voters are far less-informed about local politics and they vote for local politicians on the basis of their views on national issues.

Generally, the worst, most oppressive gov't practices are at the local level, though.

Yeah you talk about libertarians actually being communist or some bullshit. Its nonsense only a jackass on the sliding scale of Asperger's like you would say. I guess I'll tack on the precedent for local government's to be responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths as another symptom of your autism.

Its a very simple rule actually. The more intimate you are with information you have in your decision making cycle the better decisions you're prone to make. That reality extends far past any application of governance. It's why delegation rules over micromanaging.

In fact, its a rule that anyone with good management experience follows, not someone who tells people to look out the window and act as if they're not stuck in their parent's basement pretending to be a "stock analyst."

 

[Greoric]

I like how free trade and allowing companies to hire anyone they want suddenly isn't free market libertarian anymore.

Not when there's a moral hazard set up that interferes with the proper incentive structure a free market would ordinarily regulate.

 

[Greoric]

If only I could like half your post and not like the other half. I'll just comment and say I agree with the bold bit.

Yeah, that would always be the case though. The diminishing marginal returns curve for an electorate to be educated is almost perfectly inelastic. That is individually people gain nothing even as they gain the slightest bit of knowledge about what they're actually voting for.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

He is having a rally this Saturday at the Manhattan Marriott, I forget which one. I gonna go and show support and help him in the polls, so he can get into the debates.

WE nned to make this intredasting

 

[Jack V Savage]

Yeah you talk about libertarians actually being communist or some bullshit. Its nonsense only a jackass on the sliding scale of Asperger's like you would say.

Or anyone familiar with the history of the term and the meaning of it. It's pretty funny the way you react to basic facts.

I guess I'll tack on the precedent for local government's to be responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths as another symptom of your autism.

???

Its a very simple rule actually. The more intimate you are with information you have in your decision making cycle the better decisions you're prone to make. That reality extends far past any application of governance. It's why delegation rules over micromanaging.

In fact, its a rule that anyone with good management experience follows, not someone who tells people to look out the window and act as if they're not stuck in their parent's basement pretending to be a "stock analyst."

As for your second-to-last paragraph, you didn't respond to what I wrote. You're just repeating your ideology. And as for the last one, there are posters who know who I am, and I regularly school you on issues relating to my field. You just make yourself sound ridiculous when you respond to facts or logic you don't like with silly personal attacks.

 

[Greoric]

And as for the last one, there are posters who know who I am, and I regularly school you on issues relating to my field. You just make yourself sound ridiculous when you respond to facts or logic you don't like with silly personal attacks.

I'm sure you think so. Do they also know where you fall on the asperger's scale?

 

[Jack V Savage]

I'm sure you think so. Do they also know where you fall on the asperger's scale?

It's weird that you're so into libertarianism but you don't even know basics about it, and you get sooo mad when people bring up facts that are surprising to you. That's how people stay ignorant, you know. Also, see your reaction to having your predictions and therefore your model falsified.

 

[Ruprecht]

Hah! Libertarians accusing other people of having aspergers/autism... that's a new wrinkle.

 

[forum poster]

Reads like you're after the easy solution rather than the best solution (whatever that might be)?

I'm all for the best solution, whatever that maybe. Police, jails, healthcare, education etc. Public or private doesn't matter to me. Libertarians generally think the free market can solve everything, no matter what the evidence shows. I don't cling to an ideology that prevents me from being pragmatic.

 

[TehGwarch]

Yep. I can only scratch my head when I read about former Bernie supporters who are now on the Johnson train. I guess legalized weed trumps all other issues for some people.

This is exactly why weed should not be legalized, stoners should never be encouraged.

When people finally get sick of this "democracy" bullcrap and I seize power, I will put them in the stocks for public ridicule.

Imagine a world where people like Joe Brogain can't publicly ramble on and on incoherently about the benefits of weed.