Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

KaNesDeath said:
No one was spending upwards of $799 on a dead socket CPU thats performance uplift fell within margin of error.
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Dude it was 2020, Zen 3 had just come out. People definitely bought it lol, it wasn't just for gaming (shocking I know).
 
Slobodan said:
Dude it was 2020, Zen 3 had just come out. People definitely bought it lol, it wasn't just for gaming (shocking I know).
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Especially ironic given we were just told that NVIDIA no longer makes GPUs for gamers simply because the rest of the GPU market has swollen to become their primary business.
 
Slobodan said:
Dude it was 2020, Zen 3 had just come out. People definitely bought it lol, it wasn't just for gaming (shocking I know).
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It launched in the middle of second quarantine. That wasnt demand for Zen 3 CPU's.

Within a eleven months after launch the 5800X saw two prices cuts. Where it was retailing for $299.
 
Blayt7hh said:
That’s ignoring the fact that intel had ran off the charts with heat and power draw trying to keep up that generation too. I specifically went with the 5600x when it launched over higher end choices because I was going to play mostly 4k games and I didn’t see a reason to pay extra to generate more heat and a larger power bill for maybe a 1 fps payoff. These last two generations intel hasn’t even entered the conversation.

I’ve since upgraded to a 5700x3d which did provide a real bump in performance. That’s another advantage with AMD. You can usually upgrade your cpu down the road without buying a new motherboard. I’m no brand fanboy or loyalist. AMD has just been killing it in the CPU sector.
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So the performance upgrade was noticeable with a 5700x3d?

I have a 5600x as well and almost made the same move a while ago but decided against it. I guess they're not making many of them anymore because current availability is low and prices have increased unfortunately.
 
KidBaize said:
So the performance upgrade was noticeable with a 5700x3d?

I have a 5600x as well and almost made the same move a while ago but decided against it. I guess they're not making many of them anymore because current availability is low and prices have increased unfortunately.
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The uplift from the 3D cache surprised everyone with how effective it was. It depends on the game, for some it has a small effect, but as an overall average, it was pretty massive.

Techpowerup didn't do the 5700X3D, but here's the 5800X3D. If you're coming from something as close as the 5600X, even just to maximize your chipset slot without overhauling your entire rig, you'd want no less than the 5800X3D. Otherwise it would be pretty tough to justify the cost. The clocks on the 5700X3D are too low (-400MHz). And yeah, I know the 5800X3D is pretty much gone from retail.
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And to compare the 5600X:
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Madmick said:
The uplift from the 3D cache surprised everyone with how effective it was. It depends on the game, for some it has a small effect, but as an overall average, it was pretty massive.

Techpowerup didn't do the 5700X3D, but here's the 5800X3D. If you're coming from something as close as the 5600X, even just to maximize your chipset slot without overhauling your entire rig, you'd want no less than the 5800X3D. Otherwise it would be pretty tough to justify the cost. The clocks on the 5700X3D are too low (-400MHz). And yeah, I know the 5800X3D is pretty much gone from retail.
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And to compare the 5600X:
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Yeah they're both hard to find now. Just 3rd party sellers at inflated prices.
 
KidBaize said:
So the performance upgrade was noticeable with a 5700x3d?

I have a 5600x as well and almost made the same move a while ago but decided against it. I guess they're not making many of them anymore because current availability is low and prices have increased unfortunately.
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Yeah it’s was a pretty decent uplift. I got it back in the summer and they were selling for under 200 I think. Not sure what they’re going for now. If you’re going to stay on the platform for a while it’s definitely worth thinking about.
 
Logitech G303 Shroud edition is on clearance at best buy for $45. If you bring in an old peripheral to recycle, they'll give you 20% off.
 
not sure if this is the best thread for this, but:
I have a dual monitor setup with one screen with a horizontal orientation and the other with a vertical orientation. I wanted to set up a desktop slide show for the background wall paper to change daily but individually since the different orientations require different pictures. As far as I can tell windows 11 only allows you to set up one slide show pulling images from one folder. Anyone know a good workaround?
 
CubicleGangster said:
not sure if this is the best thread for this, but:
I have a dual monitor setup with one screen with a horizontal orientation and the other with a vertical orientation. I wanted to set up a desktop slide show for the background wall paper to change daily but individually since the different orientations require different pictures. As far as I can tell windows 11 only allows you to set up one slide show pulling images from one folder. Anyone know a good workaround?
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I don't know Win11 worth a damn, so I can't help on a native solution, but Wallpaper Engine can probably do what you're looking for:
 
JBSchroeds said:
I don't know Win11 worth a damn, so I can't help on a native solution, but Wallpaper Engine can probably do what you're looking for:
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thanks, was hoping to avoid having to pay for software but its looking like that is my only option
i'll look into this further and see if it can solve my problem
 
Not that you'll be able to buy one, especially at the MSRP, but at least on paper, NVIDIA has finally released two GPUs that-- if you were completely ignorant to their behavior the past 6 years and the reality of MSRP relationships to current market pricing-- might convince you they care about improving the lives of gamers.

Nvidia announces GeForce RTX 5060 Ti and RTX 5060, starting at $379 and $299 — reviews coming tomorrow, April 16​

  • $429 = 5060 Ti 16GB
  • $379 = 5060 Ti 8GB
  • $299 = 5060 8GB
As Tom's Hardware previously reported, early leaks show a 20% uplift for the 5060 Ti over the 4060 Ti in 3DMark. That's almost entirely coming from the VRAM, I'm guessing, because there's very little difference anywhere else. Pixel throughput and TFLOPS are almost identical, and texturing is only about 14% faster. The VRAM is 55% faster. That's the big hike.

But for them to release the 16GB version, the one that actually matters, at a $70 price reduction versus its 4060 Ti predecessor counterpart, would probably be the biggest boast of all...if it was actually going to matter. But since that price is imaginary, it's another disappointing step forward for the RTX 50 series that is leaning so heavily on DLSS 4's image superiority and multi-frame generation feature.
 
Madmick said:
As Tom's Hardware previously reported, early leaks show a 20% uplift for the 5060 Ti over the 4060 Ti in 3DMark. That's almost entirely coming from the VRAM, I'm guessing, because there's very little difference anywhere else. Pixel throughput and TFLOPS are almost identical, and texturing is only about 14% faster. The VRAM is 55% faster. That's the big hike.
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Crazy that the 5060 and 5060Ti will most likely end up at least 10% slower than the 2020 era 3070 and 3080. 5060 might not even end up being that much faster than a 3060 Ti which is embarrassing.
 
Madmick said:
Not that you'll be able to buy one, especially at the MSRP, but at least on paper, NVIDIA has finally released two GPUs that-- if you were completely ignorant to their behavior the past 6 years and the reality of MSRP relationships to current market pricing-- might convince you they care about improving the lives of gamers.

Nvidia announces GeForce RTX 5060 Ti and RTX 5060, starting at $379 and $299 — reviews coming tomorrow, April 16​

  • $429 = 5060 Ti 16GB
  • $379 = 5060 Ti 8GB
  • $299 = 5060 8GB
As Tom's Hardware previously reported, early leaks show a 20% uplift for the 5060 Ti over the 4060 Ti in 3DMark. That's almost entirely coming from the VRAM, I'm guessing, because there's very little difference anywhere else. Pixel throughput and TFLOPS are almost identical, and texturing is only about 14% faster. The VRAM is 55% faster. That's the big hike.

But for them to release the 16GB version, the one that actually matters, at a $70 price reduction versus its 4060 Ti predecessor counterpart, would probably be the biggest boast of all...if it was actually going to matter. But since that number is imaginary, it's another disappointing step forward for the RTX 50 series that is leaning so heavily on DLSS 4's image superiority and multi-frame generation feature.
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There's a slight bit more reason to be optimistic on the 16gb. It's getting a much larger production run this generation and being made available to ODMs and not just board partners. Much more interest from the channel this time around versus last.

But it won't matter when tariffs part 5 or whatever we're on land.
 
560ti said:
Crazy that the 5060 and 5060Ti will most likely end up at least 10% slower than the 2020 era 3070 and 3080. 5060 might not even end up being that much faster than a 3060 Ti which is embarrassing.
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avenue94 said:
But it won't matter when tariffs part 5 or whatever we're on land.
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Its just a continuation of Nvidias nonsense of flooding the market with consumer sku's that dont exist at the retail level past launch date. Inconsistent implementation and retraction of tariffs will just give them another excuse to not meet MSRP, again. On products whose MSRP is already grossly overpriced.

Local Microcenter has three 16gig 5060ti's already listed. None of them hit the MSRP retail price. Going from 10% to 30% over MSRP............
 
KaNesDeath said:
Its just a continuation of Nvidias nonsense of flooding the market with consumer sku's that dont exist at the retail level past launch date. Inconsistent implementation and retraction of tariffs will just give them another excuse to not meet MSRP, again. On products whose MSRP is already grossly overpriced.

Local Microcenter has three 16gig 5060ti's already listed. None of them hit the MSRP retail price. Going from 10% to 30% over MSRP............
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Unfortunately margins suck for AIBs and Nvidia doesn't need the gaming money and can't economically buy more capacity. So until Intel or AMD gets its shit together, it is what it is.

Also most of the price movement you saw for RTX 5070 up isn't tariffs. Those are still to come. Most US retailers have 30 or 45 day notice periods on MSRP changes.
 
avenue94 said:
Unfortunately margins suck for AIBs and Nvidia doesn't need the gaming money and can't economically buy more capacity. So until Intel or AMD gets its shit together, it is what it is.
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AMD just copy Nvidia in the GPU market. Even trying to make enterprise purchasers their primary client. Intel are a non-factor in the foreseeable future. They are restructuring, selling off assets and recently delayed self production till 2030(?).
 
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