Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[KaNesDeath]

Nvidia just confirmed they are no longer a GPU maker for Pc gamers. Looking to further expand their dominance in AI training. While trying to branch out into a new market now, Robotics trainings.






Looks like GPU prices are only going to get worse.

 

[Madmick]

NVIDIA is going to continue selling GPUs to gamers.

Another stupid take.

 

[Slobodan]

AMD priced them like they were matching Intels performance for launch

How were they not matching? Where are you getting this stuff from?

 

[KaNesDeath]

How were they not matching? Where are you getting this stuff from?

 

[Slobodan]

Lol you said the 5000 release, which is what I posted. The 5800X3D didn't come out till 2 years later. The 5800X3D was also cheaper than the 12900K.

 

[KaNesDeath]

NVIDIA is going to continue selling GPUs to gamers.

We're 6% of Nvidias market. If VC firms jump on this new trend of robotics training that margin will dip below 1%. Paper launches we use to describe Nvidia today wont scratch the surface.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Lol you said the 5000 release, which is what I posted. The 5800X3D didn't come out till 2 years later. The 5800X3D was also cheaper than the 12900K.

AMD's eight core CPU was the only thing that mattered back then in the gaming market. It showed touching distance but still fell short. **FYI, i bought the 5800X when they dropped the price to $349 in Spring of 2021.

 

[Madmick]

Nvidia just confirmed they are no longer a GPU maker for Pc gamers.

We're 6% of Nvidias market.

Concession accepted.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Concession accepted.

Your insight has changed my mind. Going from 60% to 6% will only result in good things. Everyone will be able to rub their nipples on those cold nights with 150C 5090's.

 

[jefferz]

AMD's eight core CPU was the only thing that mattered back then in the gaming market. It showed touching distance but still fell short. **FYI, i bought the 5800X when they dropped the price to $349 in Spring of 2021.

You seem to think that people only buy high-end hardware, and that's the only thing people should buy.
6 cores dominates the steam hardware survey

 

[Madmick]

Your insight has changed my mind. Going from 60% to 6% will only result in good things. Everyone will be able to rub their nipples on those cold nights with 150C 5090's.

That's an interesting debate you have going on inside of your own head. Do you always talk to yourself, or this just another case of your goldfish memory already forgetting the specific assertion which was contradicted?

I'm glad to have just learned that Intel and AMD don't make CPUs for gamers, though, because for the entirety of their histories, they have sold chiefly to server/office businesses and casual home buyers.

 

[Slobodan]

AMD's eight core CPU was the only thing that mattered back then in the gaming market. It showed touching distance but still fell short. **FYI, i bought the 5800X when they dropped the price to $349 in Spring of 2021.

It matched the 10900K as I had shown and even beat the 11900K (which was one of Intel's worst releases.) I also had the 5800x. And as @jefferz said, 6 cores is what most people went with, so you trying to disregard the 5950x and 5900x results by claiming the 5800x was all that mattered is funny.

 

[Madmick]

It matched the 10900K as I had shown and even beat the 11900K (which was one of Intel's worst releases.) I also had the 5800x. And as @jefferz said, 6 cores is what most people went with, so you trying to disregard the 5950x and 5900x results by claiming the 5800x was all that mattered is funny.

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But the 5600X is 3.7% slower than the 5800X!! Irrelevant!!!! Obsolete!!!!!! Didn't matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't get you get it? That's less than a fifth of the difference between a 144Hz and 120Hz monitor!! What peasant could possibly tolerate life on a 5600X with that kind of difference? How would life be livable?????!!

 

[jefferz]

But the 5600X is 3.7% slower than the 5800X!! Irrelevant!!!! Obsolete!!!!!! Didn't matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't get you get it? That's less than a fifth of the difference between a 144Hz and 120Hz monitor!! What peasant could possibly tolerate life on a 5600X with that kind of difference? How would life be livable?????!!

There's even idiots that saved some money, and bought a 5600 instead of a 5600x.
That 1 fps can make all the difference.

 

[Madmick]

There's even idiots that saved some money, and bought a 5600 instead of a 5600x.
That 1 fps can make all the difference.

I heard there were idiots who bought the RTX 2060 over the RX 5700 XT when the latter's real-world pricing was roughly equal.

Sit down.

 

[jefferz]

I heard there were idiots who bought the RTX 2060 over the RX 5700 XT when the latter's real-world pricing was roughly equal.

Sit down.

Says the guy that’s been slobbering all over DLSS.

 

[Madmick]

Says the guy that’s been slobbering all over DLSS.

Because after five years of getting shit on by increasingly greater margins by the RX 5700 XT, to the point the latter was actually clowning the RTX 2070 last year, by which point one suspects any reasonable gamer has already upgraded, you think DLSS4 minus MFG is gonna redeem the RTX 2060 purchase decision?

Sit down.

 

[jefferz]

Because after five years of getting shit on by increasingly greater margins by the RX 5700 XT, to the point the latter was actually clowning the RTX 2070 last year, by which point one suspects any reasonable gamer has already upgraded, you think DLSS4 minus MFG is gonna redeem the RTX 2060 purchase decision?

Sit down.

Yeah yeah, we all get your song and dance by now.

 

[KaNesDeath]

so you trying to disregard the 5950x and 5900x results by claiming the 5800x was all that mattered is funny.

No one was spending upwards of $799 on a dead socket CPU thats performance uplift fell within margin of error.

You seem to think that people only buy high-end hardware, and that's the only thing people should buy.

Nah, we see the same trend in the GPU market. Which has been skewed the past couple of years from them being the only available product. CPU purchase market is diversified more due to product availability.

Back then the target customer for AMD's 8+ core CPU's were single Pc gaming streamers.

 

[Blayt7hh]

It matched the 10900K as I had shown and even beat the 11900K (which was one of Intel's worst releases.) I also had the 5800x. And as @jefferz said, 6 cores is what most people went with, so you trying to disregard the 5950x and 5900x results by claiming the 5800x was all that mattered is funny.

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That’s ignoring the fact that intel had ran off the charts with heat and power draw trying to keep up that generation too. I specifically went with the 5600x when it launched over higher end choices because I was going to play mostly 4k games and I didn’t see a reason to pay extra to generate more heat and a larger power bill for maybe a 1 fps payoff. These last two generations intel hasn’t even entered the conversation.

I’ve since upgraded to a 5700x3d which did provide a real bump in performance. That’s another advantage with AMD. You can usually upgrade your cpu down the road without buying a new motherboard. I’m no brand fanboy or loyalist. AMD has just been killing it in the CPU sector.