Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

Bornstarch said:
4070 ti super
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Yeah then like I was saying I don’t think a 5080 is a good upgrade. It only has 16gb of vram and some games are starting to exceed that. I think you would be better served to wait a year. I am like 99% sure they are going to release a 5080 super or ti with extra vram.
 
just seen that they unveiled the new gpu's. i don't see the 5080 as a worthy upgrade to my 4070ti for all the extra money i'd have to spend. gonna hold off for the 6000 series or see if they'll release a super variant next year just to see what those have to offer.
 
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GtehMVP said:
What are some of your thoughts on these cards? It sounds most of the gains are with frame generation. How does that perform with 40 series cards?
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Won't be a groundbreaking generation. On the AMD side RDNA4 isn't going to be a significant leap over RDNA3 and on the Nvidia side they are staying on the same node as the 4000 series (which already had a mid-generation refresh aka the "super" ) so not expecting anything major even with a power increase.

The lower half of the midrange though might be decent which is good considering last gen was embarrassing (7600 barely beat a same priced 6650XT, 7600XT was slower than the non XT 6700 , 4060 was slower than the 3060 Ti and the 4060 Ti was barely faster than the 3060 Ti).
 
Just got my ASUS Rog Strix OLED monitor.

Holy shit I love it
 
idrankyourbeer said:
just seen that they unveiled the new gpu's. i don't see the 5080 as a worthy upgrade to my 4070ti for all the extra money i'd have to spend. gonna hold off for the 6000 series or see if they'll release a super variant next year just to see what those have to offer.
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That seems to be the general opinion on the Nvidia offerings in the gaming space not really that significant as much as Jensen would have people believe but he knows he will still sell a ton of them. I think much like the hitting the performance wall that been impacting CPU's for some time are hitting the GPU's. AI enhancements are not making a huge caes for the cards. I was hoping for a 48 gig top spec card for around 2100 for the stuff I am working on but 32 gig is no for me. I can get two used 4090's and hit that number 48 gigs for less money. Right now I have 2 3090ti more than enough right now.
 
So as I got it both AMD and Nvidia focus on AI frame generation now? FSR4 doing (or trying to do) the same stuff DLSS3.5 does?
Is there a reliable comparison out yet, or AMD havent yet released anything meaningful?
 
ssBaldy said:
So as I got it both AMD and Nvidia focus on AI frame generation now? FSR4 doing (or trying to do) the same stuff DLSS3.5 does?
Is there a reliable comparison out yet, or AMD havent yet released anything meaningful?
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AMD showed off FS4, the upscaling portion though. Hardware Unboxed and Digital Foundry were both impressed. FSR 3 already has frame generation, I'm guessing FS4 will just improve upon that.


 
Bornstarch said:
Damn it, I'm tempted to build a new PC now and I just got an upgrade like 9 months ago.

I'm putting together in my head:

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rtx5080
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Hahaha I hear you. I always wanted to have the latest and greatest myself.

I went from a RTX 2070 Super to RTX 3080, that upgrade made sense as RTX tech was in its infancy during that 20xx gen and the 3080 made very big strides in performance. From there I went and got the 4080, which basically allows me to run everything at over 100 FPS. I picked up Cyberpunk 2077 shortly after because that is the game that is considered an RTX showcase, and so I could see path tracing. Honestly the difference between that and the regular ray tracing was minimal so I ended up going back to regular as it performed better.

Now we have the 50xx cards with super impressive specs and the game being used to showcase their power is... Cyberpunk 2077, which released in 2020.

I feel like we are officially at a point where GPU power far exceeds what developers are able to keep up with. Heck we only have a handful of UE5 games and that tech came out years ago.

Who knows, I may look at the 50xx series cards, but not anytime soon. I don't see the point.
 
mixmastermo said:
Hahaha I hear you. I always wanted to have the latest and greatest myself.

I went from a RTX 2070 Super to RTX 3080, that upgrade made sense as RTX tech was in its infancy during that 20xx gen and the 3080 made very big strides in performance. From there I went and got the 4080, which basically allows me to run everything at over 100 FPS. I picked up Cyberpunk 2077 shortly after because that is the game that is considered an RTX showcase, and so I could see path tracing. Honestly the difference between that and the regular ray tracing was minimal so I ended up going back to regular as it performed better.

Now we have the 50xx cards with super impressive specs and the game being used to showcase their power is... Cyberpunk 2077, which released in 2020.

I feel like we are officially at a point where GPU power far exceeds what developers are able to keep up with. Heck we only have a handful of UE5 games and that tech came out years ago.

Who knows, I may look at the 50xx series cards, but not anytime soon. I don't see the point.
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AAA games have been in a sad state for some time now. I built my current PC to play Cyberpunk and havent seen any newer games that were better looking since.
Doom Eternal looked good and worked really well. BG 3 looked great for a CRPG but was not groundbreaking from a technical point of view.
Seems corporate greed killed the tech progress here with "game as a service" model - why bother with next gen graphics when you can sell the same GTA 5 for 10 years or make heaps of money from gacha games with simple cartoonish graphics?
 
ssBaldy said:
AAA games have been in a sad state for some time now. I built my current PC to play Cyberpunk and havent seen any newer games that were better looking since.
Doom Eternal looked good and worked really well. BG 3 looked great for a CRPG but was not groundbreaking from a technical point of view.
Seems corporate greed killed the tech progress here with "game as a service" model - why bother with next gen graphics when you can sell the same GTA 5 for 10 years or make heaps of money from gacha games with simple cartoonish graphics?
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Yeah… I’ve been wanting to build a new PC but you’re right, why waste the money? I play maybe one game a year that stresses my current computer and I maybe dip below 60 fps at 4k while playing TW: Warhammer 3 lol
 
ssBaldy said:
So as I got it both AMD and Nvidia focus on AI frame generation now? FSR4 doing (or trying to do) the same stuff DLSS3.5 does?
Is there a reliable comparison out yet, or AMD havent yet released anything meaningful?
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Not a lot of details yet, AIBs were given stock but not briefed in yet on performance or hard details at CES.

Fun fact, some of the AIB partners weren't allowed to even open their RTX 50 boxes until 8pm Monday night to start assembling demo units.
 
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jefferz said:
I just scrubbed through the video, but this caught my eye. So they're moving the boards to the center of the GPU now.

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I think they are moving slowly away from gaming PC centric to portable an laptop based. Oh also LCD AI TV's an robotics with 5xxx level compute an NVIDIA arm chips. Gaming performance will become less critical. TSMC says they will not reach 1.7nm till 2027 or 2028. I think NVIDIA sees an end of the road coming.
 
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ssBaldy said:
AAA games have been in a sad state for some time now. I built my current PC to play Cyberpunk and havent seen any newer games that were better looking since.
Doom Eternal looked good and worked really well. BG 3 looked great for a CRPG but was not groundbreaking from a technical point of view.
Seems corporate greed killed the tech progress here with "game as a service" model - why bother with next gen graphics when you can sell the same GTA 5 for 10 years or make heaps of money from gacha games with simple cartoonish graphics?
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So just for fun I download the latest drivers and booted up Cyberpunk 2077. It appears that with some driver improvements and feature additions, I can now get 82 FPS on the benchmark with full path tracing, 4K, DLSS on everything maxed out. High of 91, low of 75.

Without path tracing and everything on RT set to Psycho I get 105 FPS, high of 112 low of 95 on my RTX 4080 i7 9700k (OC) 64GB RAM setup.

My display is a 55" LG OLED which has HDMI 2.1, can do 4k @ 120hz, G-Sync compatible.

All of this was done without the use of DLSS 4, as it isn't actually out yet. Once that is out I may be hitting over 100 FPS with path tracing on.

In short, there is no compelling reason to look at the 50xx series of cards, as apparently there aren't any games that would justify the investment. Even if you're stepping up from the 20xx or the 30xx series of cards, the 40xx series may be a lower cost option that will be more than adequate for years.
 
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