Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

Madmick said:
This thought had occurred to me, but it's a touch cynical even for me. I've been predicting that they want to kill MacOS for a while, now, so maybe they just don't care. This is more hardware price gouging in concert with their ongoing strategy since they introduced the iPhone X.
https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/144519737/
https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/145794963/
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It does have extreme specs an will support 4 GPU'S an insane 1.5 terabytes of ram. So this thing is really designed for the most high end applications. That being said the 8 core 16 thread base unit is really useless for a desktop designed this way. In fact the most base specs for this thing should be 500 gigabytes of ram an 8 terabytes of solid state storage with a 28 core CPU. This monster would cost more then used BMW.
 
Don't tell Apple about their new competition
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GSP_37 said:
I'm eagerly waiting to see if there's a newer Apple TV 4K box. I saw something about Apple Arcade to be compatible with XBOX and PS4 controllers, but am curious how this is to work with Apple TV 4K since I think those don't have a USB port and I thought PS4 controllers need to be connected via USB to pair with the PS4 console.

Any idea how PS4 controllers would work with Apple TV box w/o USB port?

Also saw iOS 13 will allow USB flashdrive or external harddrive or SD card.
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https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/06/apple-tv-games-will-work-with-ps4-xbox-one-s-controllers/
Ars Technica said:
At the 2019 WWDC keynote today, Apple CEO Tim Cook announced that the company is expanding Apple TV controller support to include "two of the best and most popular game controllers available, Xbox One S and PlayStation DualShock 4" with the next tvOS update. Note that this expansion does not include original Xbox One control pads that shipped with the 2013 version of the system—only the Bluetooth-equipped controller update that premiered alongside Microsoft's One S update in 2016 will work with Apple TV.
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Most likely you'll just use the Apple TV remote to go to a Settings menu, put the PS4 or Xbox controller into pairing mode, and then use the remote to operate the Apple TV so that you can complete the pairing wirelessly from there via the new tvOS software. Timestamped:

 
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Madmick said:
Anthony is a beast. I love how Linus is laughing while Anthony talks about the lengths he had to go to in order to set up the Hackintosh:


The maxed up upgrade Mac Pro one will be able to order is $35K before you count the GPU(s) and that $5K display. So we're talking over $40K here:
https://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/

I don't know about you, but if I was paying $40K+ for a personal computer, I would expect it to have the best consumer/prosumer processor in the world (Intel Xeon Platinum 9282). That would actually be worth...well, Intel won't tell us how much it costs, but we can be certain the MSRP is north of $18K. Is this in the Mac Pro? Not even close:
Mac Pro processors (Cascade Lake 3000 series Xeon-W):
https://fuse.wikichip.org/news/2400/intel-rolls-out-cascade-lake-xeon-w-processors/
Full Intel Xeon Cascade Lake product line:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14146/intel-xeon-scalable-cascade-lake-deep-dive-now-with-optane

Mac Pro Processors & MSRP
  • 8-core Mac Pro ----> Intel Xeon W-3223 ($749)
  • 12-core Mac Pro --> Intel Xeon W-3235 ($1398)
  • 16-core Mac Pro --> Intel Xeon W-3245 ($1999)
  • 24-core Mac Pro --> Intel Xeon W-3265 ($3349)
  • 28-core Mac Pro --> Intel Xeon W-3275 ($4449)

Apple has always had a steeper premium on its desktop offerings, but it's heartbreaking to see what has become of the company in the past several years. This is ridiculous. You can build that baseline machine for around $1500. That's a 400% premium. Apple is soaring into loan shark territory with these markups.
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The videos with Anthony in lately have been a nice change for the channel, have enjoyed them a lot.
 
rikwebb said:
The videos with Anthony in lately have been a nice change for the channel, have enjoyed them a lot.
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It feels like they're getting back to the old videos where they focused more on the hardware.
 
rikwebb said:
The videos with Anthony in lately have been a nice change for the channel, have enjoyed them a lot.
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I want an LTT shirt that says, "Anthony is my spirit animal".
 
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The internet has been gold since that keynote.
 
Madmick said:
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The internet has been gold since that keynote.
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After the boos at the keynote Tim Cook likely walked out of the convention center with his head covered by a pillow. :)
 
Madmick said:
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The internet has been gold since that keynote.
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Wow, I haven't heard about this until now.



$999 for.... a stand?

Its like Tim Cook was thinking everyone in the audience was as rich as he is.
 
Does the LTT guy annoy anyone else with his stupid voice?
 
I saw an article saying the expensive computer was actually a decently priced workstation, not ordinary desktop computer. Someone tried calculating how much a similarly machine would cost if he assembled the components, and he came up with $6,500 price tag.

Maybe the $999 stand will be like limited production run collector's item.
 
GSP_37 said:
I saw an article saying the expensive computer was actually a decently priced workstation, not ordinary desktop computer. Someone tried calculating how much a similarly machine would cost if he assembled the components, and he came up with $6,500 price tag.

Maybe the $999 stand will be like limited production run collector's item.
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ROFL at Apple shills. What a fucking joke. The sad thing is there will be plenty of Apple consumers who read stuff like that, and are dumb enough to believe it. Being generous:
  • $749 CPU (Intel Xeon W-3223) [*note: could get same capabilities and power in a CPU half the price, but we'll stay apples-to-apples]
  • $250 GPU (AMD Radeon Pro RX 580X)
  • $275 RAM (4x8GB DDR4-2666 ECC)
  • ~$500 Mobo (Intel Quad Channel capable ATX Motherboard w/ECC support and Thunderbolt ports)
  • $40 SSD (256GB NVMe-class SSD)
  • $150? Afterburner ProRes Card Graphics Accelerator (estimated value of processing power value)
  • $225 PSU (1400 Watt)
  • $150 Case (estimated value-- nothing particularly special about it besides anodized aluminum material)
  • $35 WiFi 6 capability
  • $0 MacOS (Linux is free, so operating systems only have subjective value outside specific applications)
TOTAL = $2375


$6,500 value. Sure. To Apple consumers those numbers add up.
 
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Madmick said:
ROFL at Apple shills. What a fucking joke. The sad thing is there will be plenty of Apple consumers who read stuff like that, and are dumb enough to believe it. Being generous:
  • $749 CPU (Intel Xeon W-3223) [*note: could get same capabilities and power in a CPU half the price, but we'll stay apples-to-apples
  • $250 GPU (AMD Radeon Pro RX 580X)
  • $275 RAM (4x8GB DDR4-2666 ECC)
  • ~$500 Mobo (Intel Quad Channel capable ATX Motherboard w/ECC support and Thunderbolt ports)
  • $40 SSD (256GB NVMe-class SSD)
  • $150? Afterburner ProRes Card Graphics Accelerator (estimated value of processing power value)
  • $225 PSU (1400 Watt)
  • $150 Case (estimated value-- nothing particularly special about it besides anodized aluminum material)
  • $35 WiFi 6 capability
  • $0 MacOS (Linux is free, so operating systems only have subjective value outside specific applications)
TOTAL = $2375


$6,500 value. Sure. To Apple consumers those numbers add up.
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I just read somewhere down the rabbit hole reading about this that the w3223 is 8 core.

Workstation wise, I can’t find any benchmarks yet. But I would think the 1900x for 199.00 right now at frys would give it a hell of a problem if you did a cost vs performance analysis

1920x at 249.00 and 1950x at 299.00.

I would think they would need a stronger Xeon for that hell of a price tag?

I’m building a budget ass quadrro powered workstation and was gonna settle for a 1700x, but the 1920 and 1950 prices are making that hard to do( and all of them keep Getting cheaper just about daily. )

I can’t fathom paying that much money for an 8 core workstation. Build in today’s landscape. It’s insane.
 
32GB (2x16gb) DDR4-3000 for $125 on Newegg!
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Madmick said:
ROFL at Apple shills. What a fucking joke. The sad thing is there will be plenty of Apple consumers who read stuff like that, and are dumb enough to believe it. Being generous:
  • $749 CPU (Intel Xeon W-3223) [*note: could get same capabilities and power in a CPU half the price, but we'll stay apples-to-apples]
  • $250 GPU (AMD Radeon Pro RX 580X)
  • $275 RAM (4x8GB DDR4-2666 ECC)
  • ~$500 Mobo (Intel Quad Channel capable ATX Motherboard w/ECC support and Thunderbolt ports)
  • $40 SSD (256GB NVMe-class SSD)
  • $150? Afterburner ProRes Card Graphics Accelerator (estimated value of processing power value)
  • $225 PSU (1400 Watt)
  • $150 Case (estimated value-- nothing particularly special about it besides anodized aluminum material)
  • $35 WiFi 6 capability
  • $0 MacOS (Linux is free, so operating systems only have subjective value outside specific applications)
TOTAL = $2375


$6,500 value. Sure. To Apple consumers those numbers add up.
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Notice how they said Wifi 6 capable, they never said it was included.
Wi-Fi - 802.11ac Wi-Fi wireless networking IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n compatible

Bluetooth - Bluetooth 5.0 wireless technology
 
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