Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

Here's a quick list thrown together with better components for $1150. Better cpu, better graphics card, NVME SSD, and the overall quality of the parts will be better.
You can get Windows keys for $20 so if you want to drop the retail Windows key, you could bump up your RAM to 32gb or upgrade the SSD to a 1tb drive. That was just a quick throw together list so don't go ordering those parts. There's better deals to be found than what's in the list.
 
Here's a quick list thrown together with better components for $1150. Better cpu, better graphics card, NVME SSD, and the overall quality of the parts will be better.
You can get Windows keys for $20 so if you want to drop the retail Windows key, you could bump up your RAM to 32gb or upgrade the SSD to a 1tb drive. That was just a quick throw together list so don't go ordering those parts. There's better deals to be found than what's in the list.

Thanks man! I'm not in any hurry right now as I'm just kind of kicking around the idea as I'm a filthy console peasant with my XB1X:D I'm pretty sure I'm techy enough to do my own build with the help of the internet of coarse, I was just looking for a little guidance.

I've been planning on getting the XBSX, as I like having a console for sports games, but there is just so much a PC can do and the performance of these things are insane. Plus I can always throw more under the hood if I want to dive deeper. I would also like to emulate GameCube, Wii, and WiiU games. Not that I would need anything too hardcore for that, but it would be nice to be able to crank up the presentation to 11 with them.
 
New Nvidia drivers dropped along with the May 2020 update (I know a lot of people already had it but Windows Update kept telling me my PC wasn't ready). I enabled GPU scheduling for the hell of it and saw like a 150 point gain in Time Spy. Seems unremarkable, but I'm curious to see what sites like Gamers Nexus have to say.
 
I've been kind of eyeing this pre-build unit. Would I be able to do better if I put one together myself?

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https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-a...cxIAuN0FxnT5J_KYHmBoCDDYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
No, not right now, not really. CPU, GPU, RAM, and Case prices are strong, but PSU prices are godawful, and Motherboard prices are mostly bad (though there are some strong deals).

This is a better deal than that. It's a top trending /buildapc sale, so it probably won't last long. Right now Best Buy is out of stock of a ton of prebuilds-- pretty much all the good values. It beats the above in everything but cooling (at stock) for $100 more:
($1199) CyberPowerPC - Gamer Supreme Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 7 3700X - 16GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT - 1TB SSD
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  • R7-3700X > R5-3600
  • RX 5700 XT >> RTX 2060
  • 1TB NVMe SSD > 500GB SSD
  • 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM = 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM
  • B550AM Motherboard > B450M Motherboard
  • WiFi 5 = WiFi 5

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Oh, looks like all the new B550 motherboards are in. That might change things. Here's a build that doesn't skimp on parts. This carries superior component quality to the above build, but with no OS, for $1170. One could actually get this to around $1050 with similar components to the above if he desires (still no OS):

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TDrPBZ
 
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@Madmick know of any prebuilts around $600-$700. Friends kid wants a prebuilt and I don’t watch those sales.
Just need something for 1080p 60fps esports mainly.
 
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@Madmick know of any prebuilts around $600-$700. Friends kid wants a prebuilt and I don’t watch those sales.
Just need something for 1080p 60fps esports mainly.
If they aren't after a prebuilt foundation that is on the universal standards favorable to future expansion, and can expand the budget +$135, this would be my top recommendation. They've actually dropped it another $30 since it was posted, so it's $836 after the coupon code discount. It has a shitload of ports (especially front ports):


Second choice here on a more universal form factor. Also above budget at $750, but also a vastly superior value to other options under $700 at Amazon or Best Buy. Wal-Mart basically has nothing under that. This is the #1 bestselling desktop at Amazon right now, but I still think the above is a better value for $86 more on raw specs comparison (if given no consideration of rebuilding or expansion potential):
www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=zg_bs_565098_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=P5GS5AQGVF7XBTEADA14
 
If they aren't after a prebuilt foundation that is on the universal standards favorable to future expansion, and can expand the budget $135, this would be my top recommendation. They've actually dropped it another $30 since it was posted, so it's $836 after the coupon code discount. It has a shitload of ports (especially front ports):


Second choice here on a more universal form factor. Also above budget at $750, but also a vastly superior value to other options under $700 at Amazon or Best Buy. Wal-Mart basically has nothing under that. This is the #1 bestselling desktop at Amazon right now, but I still think the above is a better value for $86 more on raw specs comparison (if given no consideration of rebuilding or expansion potential):
www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=zg_bs_565098_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=P5GS5AQGVF7XBTEADA14
That Lenovo is an awesome deal. Better replace the stock cooler on that i7 though. And I think the PSU is only 310w.

 
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That Lenovo is an awesome deal. Better replace the stock cooler on that i7 though. And I think the PSU is only 310w.


Yeah, the PSU isn't high wattage, but that works in a build that isn't designed around expansion. No waste, no unnecessary heat. It carries 92% efficiency which meets the Platinum rating.

Even with an i7-7820X @4.3GHz and 32GB RAM (4x8GB sticks) the reference NVIDIA GTX 1660 Ti system never pulled more than 278W in Anandtech's testing:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13973/nvidia-gtx-1660-ti-review-feat-evga-xc-gaming/15

The 7820X is a 140W TDP CPU that pulls closer to 150W at stock which carries a max all-core turbo of 4.0GHz. Meanwhile, the i7-9700 has a 65W TDP:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1155...-core-i9-7900x-i7-7820x-and-i7-7800x-tested/8

So this Thinkcenter ought to max out with over 100W overhead at any given time.

The stock cooler is definitely the biggest concern, but I'm not sure a dad looking at a cheap prebuild wants to take on its removal and installation of a better CPU cooler, so the CyberpowerPC might steal the win on that concern alone (well, and also price). Figured I'd throw out both.
 
Yeah, the PSU isn't high wattage, but that works in a build that isn't designed around expansion. No waste, no unnecessary heat. It carries 92% efficiency which meets the Platinum rating.

Even with an i7-7820X @4.3GHz and 32GB RAM (4x8GB sticks) the reference NVIDIA GTX 1660 Ti system never pulled more than 278W in Anandtech's testing:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13973/nvidia-gtx-1660-ti-review-feat-evga-xc-gaming/15

The 7820X is a 140W TDP CPU that pulls closer to 150W at stock which carries a max all-core turbo of 4.0GHz. Meanwhile, the i7-9700 has a 65W TDP:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1155...-core-i9-7900x-i7-7820x-and-i7-7800x-tested/8

So this Thinkcenter ought to max out with over 100W overhead at any given time.

The stock cooler is definitely the biggest concern, but I'm not sure a dad looking at a cheap prebuild wants to take on removable and reinstallation of a better CPU cooler, so the CyberpowerPC might steal the win on that concern alone (well, and also price). Figured I'd throw out both.
Intel's shitty stock cooler is fine on my locked i5 8400 but I imagine it would really hold back the i7 and especially i9 chips, locked or not. But I guess it's fine for normal use.
 
If they aren't after a prebuilt foundation that is on the universal standards favorable to future expansion, and can expand the budget $135, this would be my top recommendation. They've actually dropped it another $30 since it was posted, so it's $836 after the coupon code discount. It has a shitload of ports (especially front ports):


Second choice here on a more universal form factor. Also above budget at $750, but also a vastly superior value to other options under $700 at Amazon or Best Buy. Wal-Mart basically has nothing under that. This is the #1 bestselling desktop at Amazon right now, but I still think the above is a better value for $86 more on raw specs comparison (if given no consideration of rebuilding or expansion potential):
www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=zg_bs_565098_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=P5GS5AQGVF7XBTEADA14

Thank you sir, much appreciated.
 
@Madmick is there a dedicated thread on hard drives for consoles (ps4) ?

not sure if this is the thread or not. I’m looking to get an extended hard drive here soon. Thanks
 
Very nice
Thank you check out this rig. I know the guy who developed the projection screen really nice guy from New Zealand. The actuators on this rig cost over 7000 dollars I decided I would try to build my own LOL. Never mind the thousands of dollars for the hydraulic pedals and the carbon fiber switch box. This thing has got to be at least 45 grand.

EDIT:I am still working on my steering rack and flight control mount.



I don't follow them it's just for some reason it says watch on Facebook.
 
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This seems a bit early to end production. They haven't even released the new line, and it isn't expected out for a few months. Normally production persists for at least several months after the launch of a new line. I don't like this. It would seem to be an attempt to keep prices of the RTX 2000 series elevated. Contrary to what WCCF Tech writes here, I don't see how this "proves" at all that the upcoming gen will be priced more favorably. Rather, it would seem to indicate the RTX 3000 series cards will be priced even higher because NVIDIA doesn't want RTX 2000 series to disrupt demand for those cards.
NVIDIA Ends Production of GeForce RTX 20 ‘Turing’ Series As GeForce RTX 30 ‘Ampere’ Gaming Graphics Card Launch Gets Closer, Price Hike For Current High-End Cards Expected
However, at the same time, those who are looking to get a Turing graphics card right now will be disappointed by the fact that a price hike on the GeForce RTX 20 series is being talked around by several retailers across the globe. That and with the resurgence of the mining craze is going to end up inflating prices on all existing high-end cards. The price hike is suggested to occur this month & My drivers report that even the mainstream GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER & the GeForce RTX 2060 will be affected. It is stated that NVIDIA has internally notified its AIB partners to adjust prices with the demand accordingly.

This more or less proves that while the current inventory is cleared up, we can expect the prices of Ampere based Gaming graphics cards to be much better at launch in the retail segment compared to what we saw the last generation. NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 30 series has also seen significant leaks in the past few weeks which confirms that we are headed for an intense graphics card season with NVIDIA and AMD going full guns blazing against each other to win significant gaming share in 2020 and beyond. Both sources report 17th September as a potential launch date for NVIDIA's next-gen gaming graphics cards.
 
This seems a bit early to end production. They haven't even released the new line, and it isn't expected out for a few months. Normally production persists for at least several months after the launch of a new line. I don't like this. It would seem to be an attempt to keep prices of the RTX 2000 series elevated. Contrary to what WCCF Tech writes here, I don't see how this "proves" at all that the upcoming gen will be priced more favorably. Rather, it would seem to indicate the RTX 3000 series cards will be priced even higher because NVIDIA doesn't want RTX 2000 series to disrupt demand for those cards.
NVIDIA Ends Production of GeForce RTX 20 ‘Turing’ Series As GeForce RTX 30 ‘Ampere’ Gaming Graphics Card Launch Gets Closer, Price Hike For Current High-End Cards Expected
I would wait for more reports because WCC is known for jumping the gun an click bait headlines.
 
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