Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[Madmick]

Guys stop that shit please.
And yes that phone is giant and it is double giant with that effing controller.
I doubt it will sell good, because it is still same old qualcomm inside, same as cheaper competition, and same limited number of meh games.
What would PROBABLY sell good would be a $100 universal gamepad-like controller for any 5.5-6.5 android phone with an external accumulator fitted inside.

In landscape mode the phone is about the same width as the Nintendo Switch (Switch= 6.81" vs. ROG= 6.73"). The controller isn't attached while you're using it as a phone. Turned upright, like a phone, it is 24% narrower (Switch= 4.01" vs. ROG = 3.06"). It isn't any wider than the mainstream handsets, and should be easy to hold in one hand. In spite of these smaller dimensions it actually has the slightly larger screen area (Switch = 16.43" vs. ROG= 16.52"). It's also siginificantly less thick (Switch= 14mm vs. ROG=9.5mm).

Spoiler: Nintendo Switch vs. Asus ROG Phone II dimensions, without joycon/twinview controllers attached

DISPLAY SIZES COMPARED
Green = Switch
Blue = ROG Phone II

ACTUAL PHYSICAL SIZES COMPARED
Green = Switch
Blue = ROG Phone II

It's true Snapdragon 800 series processors are available in cheaper handsets, but the Snapdragon 855 is their flagship, only in the priciest handsets, and Qualcomm is the Intel of the mobile world. It's a monster. Versus the Nintendo Switch:

• CPU is nearly 3x as powerful
• GPU is ~56% more powerful
• 12GB RAM (vs. 2GB RAM)
• 512GB Storage (vs. 32GB Storage)
• 2.74x as many pixels; +65% greater pixel density
• 39% larger battery

The software library isn't nearly as strong, without emulation, but I addressed that in post #1128. It's definitely not going to sell well. It's a niche product. Companies have already tried selling the accessory you describe, and none of the various ideas have sold well. It's all a niche in Android gaming when targeting less casual users.

Spoiler: Examples

 

[rob mafia]

You mean the Kindle Paperwhites, Kindle Voyage, and Kindle 5th Gen?

Those are eReaders.

thanks, captain. and ereaders are ___________?

hint: not phones.

sometimes, i'm amazed that semantic traps work.

 

[Madmick]

thanks, captain. and ereaders are ___________?

hint: not phones.

sometimes, i'm amazed that semantic traps work.

Now would be the right time to quietly slink away. The more you talk, the more you clue everyone in to how little you know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-reader

An e-reader is a device designed as a convenient way to read e-books. It is similar in form factor to a tablet computer[3], but features electronic paper rather than an LCD screen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_computer

A tablet computer, commonly shortened to tablet, is a mobile device, typically with a mobile operating system and touchscreen display processing circuitry, and a rechargeable battery in a single thin, flat package. Tablets, being computers, do what other personal computers do, but lack some input/output (I/O) abilities that others have. Modern tablets largely resemble modern smartphones, the only differences being that tablets are relatively larger than smartphones, with screens 7 inches (18 cm) or larger, measured diagonally,[1][2][3][4] and may not support access to a cellular network.

Who do you think you're fooling? Not only did you convey that you didn't know what eReaders were until just yesterday, because if you did, you would have cited them immediately (wrongly) as examples of smaller tablets, but you also unwittingly revealed that you've been on a Google spree futilely trying to find tablets with heights of 7.049" (179mm) or smaller to substantiate your earlier blunder. You just linked some random, obscure website off the corner of the internet while shouting, "Aha!" Amazon has an entire section for these devices, and Wiki has a dedicated page listing their dimensions. Doubt anyone will be surprised you had no idea what devices are used to read real books.

Mine is the Kindle Voyager.

 

[TrumpSupporter]

Micro Center has 128 gb flash drives for 11 bucks and 256 for like 22 bucks

Meanwhile my 2 TB drive i bought last year with 1000 youtube vids on it is dead. Im just gonna use flash drives from now on

 

[jefferz]

Micro Center has 128 gb flash drives for 11 bucks and 256 for like 22 bucks

Meanwhile my 2 TB drive i bought last year with 1000 youtube vids on it is dead. Im just gonna use flash drives from now on

How are Micro Center drives for quality? Amazon has 256gb drives for $23.
Amazon says they're USB 3.0 drives but Micro Centers website says they're USB 3.1 Gen 1, which I think are the same.

 

[TrumpSupporter]

How are Micro Center drives for quality? Amazon has 256gb drives for $23.
Amazon says they're USB 3.0 drives but Micro Centers website says they're USB 3.1 Gen 1, which I think are the same.

they are micro center branded and are in clear cases (all drives look the same except color). they get their drives directly from the manufacturer which is why prices are what they are. When i was in cali i used to shop at breast buy but since moving to KC Microcenter is where i get my shit. Yeti mic, Hauupauuge PVR, everything. Store is legit for nerds.

 

[rob mafia]

Now would be the right time to quietly slink away. The more you talk, the more you clue everyone in to how little you know.

yeah, that's nice. also, your link calls them a PC. so i guess ipads aren't tablets? where is the line? literal or realistic? don't you realize what you just walked into? ffs, i even called it a "semantic trap!"

it's hilarious that you repeatedly try to use semantics... except just one-sidedly (ie: criticize "many" [with no explanation, btw - since i actually used it correctly] while saying "almost always" in the same post. apparently, "almost always" means about half the time and trending to lesser).

btw, the kindles are tablets. shitty, specific and limited tablets... but they're still tablets. even by the definition you just posted. congrats, you walked into your own.

A tablet computer, commonly shortened to tablet, is a mobile device, typically with a mobile operating system and touchscreen display processing circuitry, and a rechargeable battery in a single thin, flat package.

yeah, that's totally not a kindle. /s

 

[Gregolian]

Are those Xbox Elite controllers worth it?

 

[Madmick]

Are those Xbox Elite controllers worth it?

Nobody seems to think so.

yeah, that's nice. also, your link calls them a PC. so i guess ipads aren't tablets? where is the line? literal or realistic? don't you realize what you just walked into? ffs, i even called it a "semantic trap!"

it's hilarious that you repeatedly try to use semantics... except just one-sidedly (ie: criticize "many" [with no explanation, btw - since i actually used it correctly] while saying "almost always" in the same post. apparently, "almost always" means about half the time and trending to lesser).

btw, the kindles are tablets. shitty, specific and limited tablets... but they're still tablets. even by the definition you just posted. congrats, you walked into your own.

yeah, that's totally not a kindle. /s

Keep derpdoubling down. The Kindle and Kindle Fires are separate product lines. eReaders don't perform the same tasks as a tablet (i.e. personal computers). But you didn't know that because you would have linked the device Wiki instead of Googling for small tablets, LOL.

Electronic paper was incorporated first into the Sony Librie that was released in 2004 and Sony Reader in 2006, followed by the Amazon Kindle, a device which, upon its release in 2007, sold out within five and a half hours.[14] The Kindle includes access to the Kindle Store for e-book sales and delivery.

Modern tablets
Android was the first of the 2000s-era dominating platforms for tablet computers to reach the market. In 2008, the first plans for Android-based tablets appeared. The first products were released in 2009.

In 2010,[5] Apple released the iPad, the first mass-market tablet to achieve widespread popularity.

 

[Gregolian]

Nobody seems to think so.

Was debating one for myself for fun but hearing this I may just save and get a PS4 with the money I save.

 

[rob mafia]

Nobody seems to think so.

Keep derpdoubling down. The Kindle and Kindle Fires are separate product lines. eReaders don't perform the same tasks as a tablet (i.e. personal computers). But you didn't know that because you would have linked the device Wiki instead of Googling for small tablets, LOL.

i never said they were the same product lines, genius.

YOU just cited: "A tablet computer, commonly shortened to tablet, is a mobile device, typically with a mobile operating system and touchscreen display processing circuitry, and a rechargeable battery in a single thin, flat package."

now you're backpedaling from your own citation. it's hilarious. you tried to argue semantics over .001" and now you getting pwned by your semantics, left and right. it's even as if i announced this, or something...

 

[Madmick]

i never said they were the same product lines, genius.

YOU just cited: "A tablet computer, commonly shortened to tablet, is a mobile device, typically with a mobile operating system and touchscreen display processing circuitry, and a rechargeable battery in a single thin, flat package."

now you're backpedaling from your own citation. it's hilarious. you tried to argue semantics over .001" and now you getting pwned by your semantics, left and right. it's even as if i announced this, or something...

Learned what eReaders were on July 26, 2019.

Still trying to pontificate as a consumer electronics expert.

 

[rob mafia]

^argued over 1/100 of an inch, as if that made the difference between tablet-sized.

resorted to semantics. still lost.

 

[Madmick]

It's a testament either to how saturated the case market was 12-18 months ago, or how egregiously cases have inflated in price over that period, that this is such a strongly trending sale at $67 for one of the best high-airflow Mid ATX cases in existence. Back then $75 was the typical price for this case, but in the past several months I've seen nothing but $95+ without a sale, often above $110, and usually the TG variant is the cheaper one.

 

[ssBaldy]

Fractal Design make good cases, I have one.

 

[Madmick]

Is AMD about to launch a new wave of Ryzen 3000 processors?

According to the listing, AMD could be working on unannounced Ryzen 3000-series processors, including the Ryzen 9 3900, Ryzen 7 3700 and Ryzen 5 3500...

If these processors exist – and aren’t just placeholders – then they would potentially be variants of existing processors with lower TDP (thermal design power), which means they could have lower clock speeds (and lower prices).

So, the AMD Ryzen 9 3900 would be a lower-powered version of the excellent AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, with a similar relationship between the Ryzen 7 3700 and the Ryzen 7 3700X. The ‘X’ variants both have TDP of 105W, while the new CPUs will apparently have TDPs of 65W, as well as having the same core and thread counts as the existing models.

The Ryzen 5 3500 doesn’t have an existing ‘X’ variant, but Tom’s Hardware speculates that it could be a successor to the Ryzen 5 2500X – so it might only be available in pre-built machines and not sold separately.

It looks like AMD could also be releasing a Ryzen 9 Pro 3900, Ryzen 7 Pro 3700 and Ryzen 5 Pro 3600, which would be aimed at business users. According to the listing, the Pro models would have the same TDP as the regular CPUs, so they will likely perform similarly as well.

 

[jefferz]

ASRock announced their custom designed 5700xt cards will be released the 2nd week of August.
They have their 5700xt Challanger listed on their site.

XFX 5700xt

 

[KaNesDeath]

Came home from work and my Monitor wouldnt display. Unplugged my displayport cable to my monitor just leaving in the HDMI cable to my TV. Windows came up right away on the TV. Using DVI again on my monitor. Cant believe the 6' Displayport 1.4 cable died in 8 months.

 

[rob mafia]

ASRock announced their custom designed 5700xt cards will be released the 2nd week of August.
They have their 5700xt Challanger listed on their site.

XFX 5700xt

that's a pretty cool looking drone.

 

[bdreason]

Good time to buy PC parts right now?