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Interesting benchmark - the i3 9100 is only 8 fewer FPS than the i9 9900k at 1080p Ultra in Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
 
EVGA is offering a trade in on 700 & 900 series towards RTX cards
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    1. Any EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Graphics Card = $150 CREDIT
    2. Any EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Graphics Card = $100 CREDIT
    3. Any EVGA GeForce GTX 970 Graphics Card = $75 CREDIT
    4. Any EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Graphics Card = $100 CREDIT
    5. Any EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Graphics Card = $75 CREDIT
    6. Any EVGA GeForce GTX 770 Graphics Card = $50 CREDIT
  2. Select the EVGA GeForce RTX 2080, 2070 or 2060 graphics card you wish to upgrade to.
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rob mafia said:
it's good for what it is. the new amd GPUs (ie: rx 5700) are supposed to be a little bit better for the money, but there are going to be intangibles (rdna, ray tracing, etc) and it would mostly depend on you/what you're doing/the exact price/etc.
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lmao don't upsale ray tracing now, do you even linustechtips or jayztwocentz
 
Woldog said:
Why the 2070? Why not the 2080? or even the 1080ti?
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ssBaldy said:
Because 5700XT is a mid-range video card that should be priced a tad lower than RTX2070?
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Interesting, but strange. Hard to tell much about the CPU or GPU matchup with neither controlled. It's more of a price class matchup. We're still in the cherry-picked preview window, so my immediate suspicion is that AMD picked the less powerful GPUs because the GPUs were the bottleneck, and the 9900K, despite holding an advantage, wouldn't be able to shine given the pairing.

I read this as a better sign for AMD's new RDNA architectural efficiency (over the previous GCN). Suddenly their GPUs look much healthier despite the modest compute power we saw. Still, that's quite promising they showcased this on DX11 instead of Vulkan for the CPUs.

Good stuff. It's just one game, but that's another positive sign for AMD.
 
Rex is Puerto Rican. said:
You're better off getting an i5 for gaming purposes. 9600k is over $150 less.
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I wss going to say. A well cooled, overclocked i5 will not bottleneck your gaming PC for years. It's definitely better to put that money into the GPU.
 
Madmick said:
<TrumpWrong1>

The i9-9900K is the top gaming CPU in the world across the gamut. That is objective and undeniable.

The i7-9700K is a better value than the i9-9900K as a gaming processor due to the fact it sacrifices hyperthreading which is largely impractical for improving performance in almost all games. I'm with you on that 100%. That's precisely the issue Salazar raised when he mused how attractive gamers would really find greater overall synthetic horsepower, and much better overall synthetic value, versus supreme real-world gaming performance. It's not about cores or threads.

Frequency is the divider, here. The i9-9900K at stock has the +100MHz advantage (5.0GHz). It also carries more L3 cache, and those doubled threads. But the real thing that puts the i9-9900K over the i5-9600K or the i3-9350K in games is that frequency advantage; the additional cores, cache, and threads are secondary.

The 9900K has more hybrid appeal to gamers who also stream, or who also edit, but it doesn't make sense to call it an Editing Processor when it doesn't support quad channel memory. That is a distinguishing hallmark of editing CPUs.
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They are now showing the OC for a Ryzen 16 core CPU to have higher IPC they an Intel i9900 as well of course totally demolishing the 9980xe in threaded performance. At least as far as geekbench is concerned. The low base clock still leaves me to believe this is still running as an engineering sample and we need to wait till we actually get some consumer benchmarks not some lab in China.
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Geekbench of the 9900
https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/2548
 
Madmick said:
Interesting, but strange. Hard to tell much about the CPU or GPU matchup with neither controlled. It's more of a price class matchup. We're still in the cherry-picked preview window, so my immediate suspicion is that AMD picked the less powerful GPUs because the GPUs were the bottleneck, and the 9900K, despite holding an advantage, wouldn't be able to shine given the pairing.

I read this as a better sign for AMD's new RDNA architectural efficiency (over the previous GCN). Suddenly their GPUs look much healthier despite the modest compute power we saw. Still, that's quite promising they showcased this on DX11 instead of Vulkan for the CPUs.

Good stuff. It's just one game, but that's another positive sign for AMD.
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I think it was kind of AMD vs the world test=)
We will have to see what more expensive future AMD cards will show. They licensed their names yesterday, up to RX 5950XT, which should correlate with Navi21.
New cards are named RX 5950XT, RX 5950, RX 5900XT, RX 5900, RX 5850XT, RX 5850, RX 5800XT, RX 5800, RX 5750XT, RX 5750, RX 5650XT, RX 5650, RX 5600XT, RX 5600, RX 5550XT, RX 5550, RX 5500XT, RX 5500 и RX 590XT.
 
ssBaldy said:
I think it was kind of AMD vs the world test=)
We will have to see what more expensive future AMD cards will show. They licensed their names yesterday, up to RX 5950XT, which should correlate with Navi21.
New cards are named RX 5950XT, RX 5950, RX 5900XT, RX 5900, RX 5850XT, RX 5850, RX 5800XT, RX 5800, RX 5750XT, RX 5750, RX 5650XT, RX 5650, RX 5600XT, RX 5600, RX 5550XT, RX 5550, RX 5500XT, RX 5500 и RX 590XT.
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Yeah, I just saw the leaks about the RX 5900 XT. That is expected to be their best single-GPU performer, and given the vast improvements we may see in Navi's performance per FLOP, if the benchmark above holds any water, then we might actually see a more meaningful challenge to the RTX 2080 Ti than expected.
 
Madmick said:
Yeah, I just saw the leaks about the RX 5900 XT. That is expected to be their best single-GPU performer, and given the vast improvements we may see in Navi's performance per FLOP, if the benchmark above holds any water, then we might actually see a more meaningful challenge to the RTX 2080 Ti than expected.
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The more competition, the better for consumers
 
GSP_37 said:
I was gonna try to dig up the Raspberry thread and paste the specs. Overclocking the Pi 3 and dumbing down the game parameters, I was able to play some stuff barely but decently. I'm really excited about what the extra RAM and CPU power can do. I'll be looking forward to seeing reports from the early adopters. I saw someone ask if it will be able to handle PS2. I saw people say it'll barely help N64.

I already have in possession some Lego Technic parts for a new design fan mount. Better safe than overheated. I'll still order little heatsinks.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-from-35/
"Raspberry Pi 4 Model B

Here are the highlights:

A 1.5GHz quad-core 64-bit ARM Cortex-A72 CPU (~3× performance)
1GB, 2GB, or 4GB of LPDDR4 SDRAM
Full-throughput Gigabit Ethernet
Dual-band 802.11ac wireless networking
Bluetooth 5.0
Two USB 3.0 and two USB 2.0 ports
Dual monitor support, at resolutions up to 4K
VideoCore VI graphics, supporting OpenGL ES 3.x
4Kp60 hardware decode of HEVC video
Complete compatibility with earlier Raspberry Pi products

RAM Retail price
1GB $35
2GB $45
4GB $55

Power

We’ve moved from USB micro-B to USB-C for our power connector. This supports an extra 500mA of current, ensuring we have a full 1.2A for downstream USB devices, even under heavy CPU load."
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The mini hdmi ports are disappointing. The physical connection is very weak and very easy to break. Personally I would have rather had a single full size hdmi port.
 
adam199 said:
I wss going to say. A well cooled, overclocked i5 will not bottleneck your gaming PC for years. It's definitely better to put that money into the GPU.
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A locked 9400F with the stock cooler is good enough too.
 
PEB said:
They are now showing the OC for a Ryzen 16 core CPU to have higher IPC they an Intel i9900 as well of course totally demolishing the 9980xe in threaded performance. At least as far as geekbench is concerned. The low base clock still leaves me to believe this is still running as an engineering sample and we need to wait till we actually get some consumer benchmarks not some lab in China.
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Geekbench of the 9900
https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/2548
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Who cares if it outperforms the 9900K in single core performance once they've overclocked the turbo +500 MHz?

I mean, the top recorded OC single core score for the 9900K-- with all cores active-- is only 9371 (+39.6%), at 5.61 GHz, and the top single core score for the 9900K with all cores active at a 5.3 GHz or lesser maximum frequency-- in this case 5.0 GHz-- is only 8,906 (+32.6%). The only significant difference is these were benched on Windows 7, not Windows 10.

<DisgustingHHH>

This is the opposite of promising. My antici-peen is deflating with each subsequent leak the closer we get to the release.
 
jefferz said:
The mini hdmi ports are disappointing. The physical connection is very weak and very easy to break. Personally I would have rather had a single full size hdmi port.
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Can you do double monitor with one HDMI port?

Even though the CPU speed looks slightly better than old 3 overclocked, I read on Tom's Hardware the instructions bandwidth and the way the instructions are handled is what gives it way better speed. PSP should be good.
 
I was thinking to upgrade my PC since its 7 years old now, but quad core I7, 16gb ram, and only recently upgraded GPU to 1080 GTX still shows top marks in newest, most demanding games. Sure its not 4k, but 2k looks just as good. I guess I wait when my MOBO dies.
 
GSP_37 said:
Can you do double monitor with one HDMI port?

Even though the CPU speed looks slightly better than old 3 overclocked, I read on Tom's Hardware the instructions bandwidth and the way the instructions are handled is what gives it way better speed. PSP should be good.
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You won’t be able to use any monitor when those weak ass micro hdmi connections break.
 
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