Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[WhiteMousse]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-review/8

Unfortunately this means I need to buy one

 

[Bornstarch]

Motherfuckers need to hurry up and relase the 4080. I would buy the 4090 but I know it'd hit my CPU heatsink with its size

 

[My Spot]

Unfortunately this means I need to buy one

Don't enable Nvidia.

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[JBSchroeds]

Motherfuckers need to hurry up and relase the 4080. I would buy the 4090 but I know it'd hit my CPU heatsink with its size

How? I don't think I've ever heard of a cooler that is designed to interfere with the top PCIE slot.

 

[Madmick]

Don't enable Nvidia.

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It really is disgusting.

Everyone noticed the BS branding scheme with the two 4080's, but NVIDIA perpetrated a second, more subtle, and even more avaricious sleight of hand with the 4090. With the previous generation, we all just sort of tacitly accepted the ridiculous pricing of the 3090, not so much because of the crypto-bubble, but because it was just the Titan's successor in all but name. It offered a tiny improvement on the 3080 for a massive increase in cost: a product for the richie-riches. Nobody was going to really buy it, and nobody cared. You could get nearly the best there was to own in the 3080 for a reasonable price ($699) just like past generations. $700 was a hike, but it wasn't bad.

That's not the case with the 4080 16GB. It's pathetic compared to 4090. Half the card.

For the previous decade, $500-$700 could get you practically the best money could buy. Now NVIDIA wants that to be $1600. Fuck, they're such cocksuckers.

 

[Neph]

So the 4090 is disgustingly fast, and disgustingly expensive.

What I hope is that buyers don't look at the halo product and compare their purchase against the competition; for example, the AMD products were almost always faster at the same price point as NVIDIA and yet are only a small % of the market. People look at 12900 vs 7950 and then buy lower down the stack thinking this is meaningful.

 

[JBSchroeds]

So the 4090 is disgustingly fast, and disgustingly expensive.

What I hope is that buyers don't look at the halo product and compare their purchase against the competition; for example, the AMD products were almost always faster at the same price point as NVIDIA and yet are only a small % of the market. People look at 12900 vs 7950 and then buy lower down the stack thinking this is meaningful.

Yup. Halo products put butts in seats. Car manufacturers have known this for like a century now, and it's true in other industries as well.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Reminds me of that Jay Z song Imaginary Player:

“You pull up in your 4.0 with your bitch
I pull up in the 4.6 with my bitch with the seat back
Bumping some other shit, you know, some other shit
You'll probably hop on my dick right there, right in front of your bitch
Ask me some stupid shit like
"Yo, yo dog, what's the difference between a 4.0 and a 4.6?"
Like 30 to 40 grand, cocksucker, beat it”

I have no idea what car he’s rapping about there (Range Rovers apparently according to Google) but a 4090 must basically be a 4.6

 

[Blayt7hh]

Yeah monster card.

Obviously it will be niche due to the high price and power draw but 45-58% better than the 3090 Ti at 4k all while using less power is not shabby. Hopefully the rest of the lineup (along with RDNA3) will follow suit (similar power draw to previous gen but significantly better performance)

I think this is the single biggest jump in performance I’ve ever seen generation to generation. Only other ones that could compare is maybe to 1080 Ti. Maybe the 680? I know they weren’t this big though

 

[Blayt7hh]

So the 4090 is disgustingly fast, and disgustingly expensive.

What I hope is that buyers don't look at the halo product and compare their purchase against the competition; for example, the AMD products were almost always faster at the same price point as NVIDIA and yet are only a small % of the market. People look at 12900 vs 7950 and then buy lower down the stack thinking this is meaningful.

Historically nvidia supports their cards with much better drivers than and. I want to be on team red, but nvidia is just better. Which sucks because they’re assholes

 

[WhiteMousse]

It really is disgusting.

Everyone noticed the BS branding scheme with the two 4080's, but NVIDIA perpetrated a second, more subtle, and even more avaricious sleight of hand with the 4090. With the previous generation, we all just sort of tacitly accepted the ridiculous pricing of the 3090, not so much because of the crypto-bubble, but because it was just the Titan's successor in all but name. It offered a tiny improvement on the 3080 for a massive increase in cost: a product for the richie-riches. Nobody was going to really buy it, and nobody cared. You could get nearly the best there was to own in the 3080 for a reasonable price ($699) just like past generations. $700 was a hike, but it wasn't bad.

That's not the case with the 4080 16GB. It's pathetic compared to 4090. Half the card.

For the previous decade, $500-$700 could get you practically the best money could buy. Now NVIDIA wants that to be $1500. Fuck, they're such cocksuckers.

Should I boycott 'em?

 

[Neph]

Should I boycott 'em?

 

[WhiteMousse]

I guess I don't really need one right now anyway. My rig plays everything great, even Cyberpunk maxxed out is around 80-90 fps on 1440p. I'm infatuated with Elden Ring right now and god knows we don't need much to play that

 

[My Spot]

I think this is the single biggest jump in performance I’ve ever seen generation to generation. Only other ones that could compare is maybe to 1080 Ti. Maybe the 680? I know they weren’t this big though

Nah that had to be Pascal over Maxwell. The 1060 was beating the 980.

 

[560ti]

Nah that had to be Pascal over Maxwell. The 1060 was beating the 980.

I think he was referring to the top end generation to generation leap (since that's really the only data we have).

A what was at the time 4 year old GTX 690 was actually closer in the performance to the 980Ti/Titan X then what the 3090Ti is to the 4090......... (that's actually insane if you think about it, the performance jump of the 4090 surpasses the 2 generations leading up the maxwell combined). Even more crazy if the 4090 doesn't end up being the fastest card they release this gen

 

[My Spot]

I think he was referring to the top end generation to generation leap (since that's really the only data we have).

A what was at the time 4 year old GTX 690 was actually closer in the performance to the 980Ti/Titan X then what the 3090Ti is to the 4090......... (that's actually insane if you think about it, the performance jump of the 4090 surpasses the 2 generations leading up the maxwell combined). Even more crazy if the 4090 doesn't end up being the fastest card they release this gen

Nah the 3080 was a wee bit larger (58.7% vs 58.4%).
And the 3090 Ti was 63% over the Titan RTX.

 

[560ti]

Nah the 3080 was a wee bit larger (58.7% vs 58.4%).
And the 3090 Ti was 63% over the Titan RTX.

3080 at release was a good jump over the 2080 Super but the 2080 Ti actually came out only a month after the original 2080 (the non-super) so it was the true high-end comparison (launch vs launch the 3080 wasn't as drastic compared to the 2000 series launch highend).

3090 TI I don't even really count since it came out so late into the generation (didn't it just come out like 5 months ago ? I consider it more of a this generation card then a 3000 series card).

Generation vs generation (especially at launch) the performance gap is unheard of for the 4090 regardless of all the justified issues (price, power, screwing over 3rd party vendors)

 

[My Spot]

Generation vs generation (especially at launch) the performance gap is unheard of for the 4090 regardless of all the justified issues (price, power, screwing over 3rd party vendors)

It's not though.

 

[560ti]

It's not though.

Um yes it is. The best example given (Maxwell) the launch 980 was on par with a 2 generation old gtx 690 and not much faster than the 780ti and the 980 Ti (which came out 8 months later) was like 25-30% faster.

A day 1 launch card getting in some reviews close to 60% faster performance than the previous generations #1 flagship is unheard of, especially since the 3090 Ti really shouldn't of even existed (3090 Ti was a late gen cash grab that shouldn't of even happened, the gap would of been even larger against the vanilla 3090).

I get it it's cool and hip to hate Nvidia but this card is a monster let's just call it for what it is

 

[My Spot]

Um yes it is. The best example given (Maxwell) the launch 980 was on par with a 2 generation old gtx 690 and not much faster than the 780ti and the 980 Ti (which came out 8 months later) was like 25-30% faster.

A day 1 launch card getting in some reviews close to 60% faster performance than the previous generations #1 flagship is unheard of, especially since the 3090 Ti really shouldn't of even existed (3090 Ti was a late gen cash grab that shouldn't of even happened, the gap would of been even larger against the vanilla 3090).

The numbers don't lie though.