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[jefferz]

AMD Ryzen 3000 Series To Feature Support on X570 Chipset Based AM4 Boards – Allegedly The First Platform To Support PCIe 4.0, Launching at Computex 2019

Not that we need it. PCIe isn't even remotely close to bottlenecking the RTX 2080 Ti.

There's more than just video cards that use PCIe. 970 Evo's are already almost saturating pcie 3.0x4.

 

[jefferz]

MSI RX580 8GB for $155AR and coupon code EMCEERY39 with your choice of 2 games. Game options are The Division 2, Resident Evil 2, and Devil May Cry 5.

 

[Panmisiek]

AMD since I remember was always behind Intel. Over last few years that gap begin to increasing dramatically putting AMD into financial troubles.

So what AMD did?

They released TR2990x CPU that simply destroys 7980x and 9940x the high ends of Intel by moderate margin.


https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9940X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-TR-2990WX/m641326vsm560423

 

[Madmick]

Yeah I get all that, was just wondering what clock speeds would be achievable with the new zen series since they mentioned higher clocks.

But no mention of how much higher.

I find the rumored 15% IPC bump much more intriguing. I certainly don't care about PCIe 4.0-- not even for NVMe SSDs. So much bandwidth left in the tank, and most of what's already available is totally pointless for gamers (and 99.9%+ of the rest of the world's users).
Seagate Announces PCIe x16 SSD Capable Of 10GB/s
The prospect of computers that are instantly on, zero boot screen, with every byte of storage available at near-DRAM speeds & latency, as they will be with Intel's future 3D Xpoint Optane drives, is incredibly appetizing, but the 32TB sticks--yes, you read that right-- won't even be available until 2019 or 2020, which means they probably won't be practically affordable for another half decade, at least. At that point I'll probably care.

 

[Madmick]

AMD since I remember was always behind Intel. Over last few years that gap begin to increasing dramatically putting AMD into financial troubles.

So what AMD did?

They released TR2990x CPU that simply destroys 7980x and 9940x the high ends of Intel by moderate margin.


https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9940X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-TR-2990WX/m641326vsm560423

AMD has impressed everyone in 2018. The Threadrippers are definitely outclassing the Intels for editors.

Nevertheless, you're comparing a 14-core to a 32-core CPU. That was AMD's coup, especially on value, but half those cores shut off during "Game Mode" (which is necessary on many games just to prevent crashing, apparently). Also, for all but the most well-scaling multicore editing tasks (like Blender) the Intel will be faster in real-world performance.

Also, it isn't the most appropriate comparison. The i9-9980XE will be the flagship processor from this Intel generation's family:
https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3372-intel-announces-xeon-w3175-28c-56t-cpu-18c-oc-cpus

Meanwhile, and this probably has AMD a bit nervous, but Intel is claiming a 3.1 GHz base clock on their upcoming 28-core server processor:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1344...75x-28core-processor-for-extreme-workstations

 

[Madmick]

Only the 4GB version, but this dual fan, not one of the cheaper blower cards, and $137 is the lowest outright price I've ever seen on an RX 580:
https://www.cdw.com/product/ASUS-DU...phics-card-Radeon-RX-580-4-GB/4597467?pfm=srh

Combined with the $150 R5-2600 & the $107 Google Express first-time buyer's sale on the Crucial MX500 1TB SSD also available today that's halfway to a ripping 1080p build for $395.

 

[Cygnus A]

RX 580s are hot right now. If you only need 1080P, this is great time to buy. I just picked up one for the bedroom.

 

[jefferz]

Only the 4GB version, but this dual fan, not one of the cheaper blower cards, and $137 is the lowest outright price I've ever seen on an RX 580:
https://www.cdw.com/product/ASUS-DU...phics-card-Radeon-RX-580-4-GB/4597467?pfm=srh

Combined with the $150 R5-2600 & the $107 Google Express first-time buyer's sale on the Crucial MX500 1TB SSD also available today that's halfway to a ripping 1080p build for $395.

I don't know if it's just my area, but shipping is brutal at $20.03.

 

[Cygnus A]

I don't know if it's just my area, but shipping is brutal at $20.03.

Same. Still $160 for an extremely capable 1080P card is not bad.

 

[Madmick]

Same. Still $160 for an extremely capable 1080P card is not bad.

They're headquartered in Illinois, but those cards must be shipping from some facility out west. Just $14.04 in NorCal. Brings it to $151. Still the best price I've ever seen on an RX 580, especially on a dual-fan variant, and an Asus no less. They made two versions of this 4GB card, btw, and this is the OC variant (1.38 GHz boost clock vs. 1.34 GHz reference). In the middle of October it got flagged and trended at the top of /buildapc at a sale price via Amazon of $184.

Gamers in 2018 be like...

*Edit* Powercolor's lowest end variant, the AXRX, a dual-fan 8GB card, just popped up today on Newegg for $160 after coupon code & rebate:
https://slickdeals.net/f/12401713-p...8gb-256-bit-gddr5-160-ar-newegg?src=catpagev2

I was expecting the GTX 1060's to be flooding the sale prices, with news of the glut, but the RX 580 is still punching.

 

[Madmick]

Well, you were wondering, @90 50. The stars are on your side. Ask and ye shall receive:
AMD Ryzen 3000 Specs & Prices Leaked, Upto 16 Cores & 5.1GHz on AM4

AMD Ryzen 9 3850X, 3800X – 16 Cores, Upto 5.1 GHz & $499
At the very top-end of the scale the company is preparing two absolutely monstrous chips, each featuring two full 8 core Zen 2 dies for a total of 16 cores and 36 threads per processor.

The Ryzen 9 3850X is quite the specimen, with a 135W TDP rating and a boost clock of 5.1 GHz it’s an absolute beast. We’re looking at more than double the performance of the fastest AM4 CPU available on-shelves today...


AMD is Doubling Down on Ryzen & AM4, Literally
We’re clearly seeing the effect of the company’s highly versatile die stacking strategy here, which has been in the works for over a decade. It allows the company to mix and match different logic dies to make different types of products as we’re seeing here where the high-end Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 chips are actually made up of two Zen 2 dies, while the Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 3 APU parts are made of a CPU and a GPU die connected via Infinity Fabric.

By using multiple small and simple dies to build a complex product, instead of designing a large and complicated monolithic die, AMD can save costs by leveraging different manufacturing technologies for every different die in the same chip, improve yields because the dies are so small and boost performance by optimizing each die for the specific type of logic that’s on it.

All in all if this leak is to be believed the Ryzen 3000 series is going to be one hell of a CPU family.

More and more with each announcement it looks like the frequency wars are subsiding, and giving way to the core wars. As small as they go, they can't go that much smaller on the die, and so there just isn't as much to be gained by pursuing higher clocks. So instead of building up, they're building out. One wonders how long this can last; when the next generation won't be doubling the previous generation's cores.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Made one upgrade last week. Went from DVI to Displayport 1.4 for my 144hz monitor. An on Sunday i purchased lower latency ram sticks upgrading from 4x4 quad channel to 2x16 dual channel.

Kind of needed the extra ram. Escape from Tarkov is consuming an insane amount of 11-12 gigs after multiple raids. One plus side is i can stream on Twitch again with this excess of ram.

Additional plus is the newer Intel chip motherboards support the DDR type. So if i do upgrade from my 5820K soon i wont be forced to upgrade the ram also.

 

[tehJameson]

Anyone have experience with newegg? I usually order amazon, but newegg had 16gb 3000mhz ram for 100 bucks and a great deal on a kingston ssd and a pc case.

The free shipping said like 3-5 days shipping and i ordered this sunday, but it's tracking info says it'll arrive next thursday. Anyways, hoping it shows up before the work week ends.

 

[90 50]

Well, you were wondering, @90 50. The stars are on your side. Ask and ye shall receive:
AMD Ryzen 3000 Specs & Prices Leaked, Upto 16 Cores & 5.1GHz on AM4

More and more with each announcement it looks like the frequency wars are subsiding, and giving way to the core wars. As small as they go, they can't go that much smaller on the die, and so there just isn't as much to be gained by pursuing higher clocks. So instead of building up, they're building out. One wonders how long this can last; when the next generation won't be doubling the previous generation's cores.

Damn, that r9 @ 16/32 and 5.1 ghz makes the 1950x build I was gonna do in the future look like a moot point possibly.

And the r3 3k series, 6/12 @ 4.0 for 99 dollars makes any i3 or hell maybe even i5 purchase stupid in cost for performance metrics unless they get the i3/5’s to 5.0??

I’ve very excited for this release. This might make me buy a cpu at release instead of waiting a half year for initial price drops or greater like usual.

Thanks!!!

 

[tehJameson]

B350 rog strix is 40 dollars off, gtx 1060 zotac for 220, and vega 56 for 400 on amazon right now.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Anyone have experience with newegg?

Ive purchased from them primarily for the past eleven years. Only issue ive had was on my second to last order of a Logitech hard surface mousepad. Somehow FedEX outside contractor delivery driver stole or lost the package.

 

[tehJameson]

Ive purchased from them primarily for the past eleven years. Only issue ive had was on my second to last order of a Logitech hard surface mousepad. Somehow FedEX outside contractor delivery driver stole or lost the package.

They have some of the best prices it seems. That's a bummer you lost that one. That's the best mousepad I've ever used.

 

[KaNesDeath]

They have some of the best prices it seems. That's a bummer you lost that one. That's the best mousepad I've ever used.

Just wish it was slightly bigger, like 25-33%. Allsop makes the best out of box hard surface mousepad. Sadly it wears down way to fast.

Took two phone calls to resolve. Newegg shipped out a new one by week end that i did receive.

 

[rob mafia]

Anyone have experience with newegg? I usually order amazon, but newegg had 16gb 3000mhz ram for 100 bucks and a great deal on a kingston ssd and a pc case.

The free shipping said like 3-5 days shipping and i ordered this sunday, but it's tracking info says it'll arrive next thursday. Anyways, hoping it shows up before the work week ends.

their shipping is allll over the place. i'm a day away (ie: next day delivery via fedex and lasership*) from their jersey location. but a component i ordered last week still never arrived (dhl sent it to maryland for some reason). it's slated for saturday, which doesn't really make any damn sense no matter how it's looked at.

*lasership can make it here within the SAME day of ordering... but they were often insane/lazy/thieving/lying bastards.

i'm also going through a wacky RMA process with them right now, so it's hard to actually recommend newegg. but their prices are generally good. haha

 

[tehJameson]

Just wish it was slightly bigger, like 25-33%. Allsop makes the best out of box hard surface mousepad. Sadly it wears down way to fast.

Took two phone calls to resolve. Newegg shipped out a new one by week end that i did receive.

Im rocking the hyper x fury s or something like that. I ordered the extra large and it is nice having a gigantic mousepad.

Sounds like the shipping mistake was a one off.