Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

 
Gamer meld claims 10's of thousands of GPU's and CPU's will be available to vendors soon and we should see products on shelves by 12/14/20. They I hear said chip producers are rushing to get ahead COVID shipments impact. Because already they are seeing problems and soon airline shipping going to be shifted to high gear for months moving huge quantities of vaccine across the world.

 
End of the year roundups for Cases, though perhaps a bit premature, are out for 2020.

Techspot Metareview > Best PC Cases of 2020
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Best Overall: Phanteks P600S Eclipse
Honorable Mentions:
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL
Fractal Design Define 7
NZXT H710i​
Best Premium/Enthusiast: Cooler Master Cosmos C700M
Honorable Mentions:
be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2
Corsair Obsidian 1000D
Phanteks Enthoo Elite
Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV X​
Best Mini-ITX: Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX
Honorable Mentions:
NZXT H210i
NZXT H1​
Best Micro-ATX: NZXT H400i
Honorable Mentions:
Corsair Crystal 280X RGB
Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV mATX TG​
Best Case Under $100: Lian Li LANCOOL II
Honorable Mentions:
Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital
Fractal Design Meshify C
Corsair Carbide 275R​


Gamers Nexus: Best & Worst PC Cases of 2020


Best Overall: Lian Li LANCOOL 215
Best Mechanical Design: Fractal Design Meshify 2
Honorable Mentions:
Corsair 4000D Airflow
Lian Li PC-O11 Mini​
Best Budget Case: Silverstone FARA R1
Best Out-of-the-Box Thermals: Lian Li LANCOOL Mesh II
Best Noise Levels: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX / Corsair 4000D Airflow (tie)
Best Noise-Normalized Thermals: Phanteks P500A Digital

Bonus > Gamers Nexus: Best Airflow Cases Mid-2020 (July-17)


Sub-$100 Top Airflow Cases
  • be quiet Pure Base 500DX
  • Cooler Master NR600 (w/ODD version)
  • Lian Li Lancool Mesh II
  • Phanteks P300A Mesh
  • Phanteks P400A Digital RGB
  • Silverstone Fara R1
Hon. Mentions
  • Cooler Master TD500 Mesh
  • Fractal Design Meshify C
$100+ Top Airflow Cases
  • Cooler Master H500
  • Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL
  • Phanteks P500A Digital RGB

Tom's Hardware: Best PC Cases 2020
Best High-End ATX: Fractal Design Define 7
Best Mid-Range ATX: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh
Best Budget ATX: Phanteks Eclipse P300A
Best Case for High-End Rigs & Workstations: Fractal Design Meshify 2
Best Micro-ATX: NZXT H400i
Best Budget Micro-ATX: Cooler Master Silencio S400
Best Mini ITX: NZXT H1
Best Showcase: Cooler Master Cosmos C700M
Best XL/EATX: be quiet! Dark Base 700
Best Dual System Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro II


PC Gamer: Best Cases of 2020
Best Full Tower: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P
Best Budget Case: Corsair Carbide 275R
Best Dual System ATX: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV X
Best Mini-ITX: NZXT H200i
Best Silent: Cooler Master Silencio S600
Best Luxury: Corsair Obsidian 1000D
Best Modder: be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900
Best for Liquid Cooling: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic
 
is there a cpu shortage bc i just took a look to see what the 1700x was going for and its boggling that amazon and newegg have it around $300+
 
Synseer83 said:
is there a cpu shortage bc i just took a look to see what the 1700x was going for and its boggling that amazon and newegg have it around $300+
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Yeah, I'd noticed this too this past week. I think we just entered that weird limbo phase where most stock from the previous generations is running dry because all energy has been thrust into meeting the demand for the new processors. It's the best value CPUs that are the skinniest: those classically in the $100-$200 range. Right now the best value is the Ryzen 5 1600 AF aka Ryzen 5 1600 (12nm) for $149 via Amazon. This is just an R5-2600 with -100MHz clocks.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1977-amd-ryzen-1600-af/
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The upside has been alien-feeling sales on Intel's i7 and i9 CPUs. They've finally been forced to price humbly. This week there was a sale on the i7-10700KF for $289, an i9-10850K for $389, and an i9-9900K + MSI Z390 Gaming Plus ATX MoBo for $409.

There was a sale on the R5-3600 for $169 earlier this week, but it sold out 2min before the Redditor could even post it to the sales sub.
 
Madmick said:
Yeah, I'd noticed this too this past week. I think we just entered that weird limbo phase where most stock from the previous generations is running dry because all energy has been thrust into meeting the demand for the new processors. It's the best value CPUs that are the skinniest: those classically in the $100-$200 range. Right now the best value is the Ryzen 5 1600 AF aka Ryzen 5 1600 (12nm) for $149 via Amazon. This is just an R5-2600 with -100MHz clocks.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1977-amd-ryzen-1600-af/
2020-01-27-image-2.jpg


The upside has been alien-feeling sales on Intel's i7 and i9 CPUs. They've finally been forced to price humbly. This week there was a sale on the i7-10700KF for $289, an i9-10850K for $389, and an i9-9900K + MSI Z390 Gaming Plus ATX MoBo for $409.

There was a sale on the R5-3600 for $169 earlier this week, but it sold out 2min before the Redditor could even post it to the sales sub.
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wow. thats kind of crazy. i guess 1700x is still in a good price range secondhand on ebay.

on an unrelated note, after 2 years ive finally OC my 1700x in the bios. i just wish i could put my 16gb ram in my system. but thats just a 19 days away
 
My MC got 25+ 3600s in stock but it's back up to $200 (was $180 before).
 
Reporting in on my new build. The jump from 2600x to 5800x is massive. WIthout upgrading my GPU, games are insanely more smooth. I didnt realize the 2000 zen series were showing their age this badly.
 
Synseer83 said:
is there a cpu shortage bc i just took a look to see what the 1700x was going for and its boggling that amazon and newegg have it around $300+
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I think hardware in general is on limits right now. Been looking at RAM sticks and seeing everywhere:
"Limit 2 per customer"
 
how often do you guys upgrade the bigger parts of your setup? more importantly the mobo and cpu im still rocking a b350-f and just saw that theyre now on b550 and im like damn......if i wanted to upgrade the cpu from say 1700x to a, say 3600x, id have to upgrade to a newer mobo right?
 
Synseer83 said:
how often do you guys upgrade the bigger parts of your setup? more importantly the mobo and cpu im still rocking a b350-f and just saw that theyre now on b550 and im like damn......if i wanted to upgrade the cpu from say 1700x to a, say 3600x, id have to upgrade to a newer mobo right?
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no, the 3600 can run on that.

you should update the bios with the 1700x first, though.
 
Synseer83 said:
how often do you guys upgrade the bigger parts of your setup? more importantly the mobo and cpu im still rocking a b350-f and just saw that theyre now on b550 and im like damn......if i wanted to upgrade the cpu from say 1700x to a, say 3600x, id have to upgrade to a newer mobo right?
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When my computer no longer does the things I want it too. B350 & 3600x is compatible.
 
Synseer83 said:
how often do you guys upgrade the bigger parts of your setup? more importantly the mobo and cpu im still rocking a b350-f and just saw that theyre now on b550 and im like damn......if i wanted to upgrade the cpu from say 1700x to a, say 3600x, id have to upgrade to a newer mobo right?
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You could upgrade to a Zen 2 CPU like the 3700X, but you could not upgrade to a Zen 3 CPU (ex. 5600X, 5800X).
https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b350-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_cpu/

The B550 chipset will support those Zen 3 CPUs, but it won't support Zen 3's successor. The X570 motherboards will.
 
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rob mafia said:
no, the 3600 can run on that.

you should update the bios with the 1700x first, though.
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yea im already running the 5603 bios. tho the one i have is from july and apparently they released another one in august with the same bios version

jefferz said:
When my computer no longer does the things I want it too. B350 & 3600x is compatible.
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yea i just checked to see which cpus are compatible. seems i have some decent options even with this old trusty mobo before i decide to upgrade
 
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