Gamebred Pitbull vs Leopard who wins?

[AGGAMEMNON66]

And this is my point.

I think the Leopard is always trying to walk away and while he is the Pitbull is rushing in at full speed to instigate an attack. i think the Leopards first instinct when attacked would not be to turn and fight to the death (and win) but rather to try break free and flee.



I know Mountain Lions and Coyotes are opportunistic hunters of dogs in yards, etc. A gal i was dating had her dog snatched from her mom's yard in Oregon but that dog was a Pekingese.

I would love to see your info on them taking on a Game Pit. And the 'game' part matters. It matters a lot. Predators are great at picking out prey that does not have an aggressive posture while avoiding those who do. Thus why Honey Badger goes right and never backs down in the face of a lion. If it turned its back or looked sheepish it WOULD provoke a deadly attack.

Tribesmen in Africa have learned that too and will drive off giant prides of lions from a kill to take their meat by just walking right at them and being aggressive.

Why do I mention that. Because we know at other time Lions kills humans easily. SO the posture and willingness to fight REALLY does matter.

And again I am not saying the Cougar is not way more deadly and has all the tools to kill an attacking Game Pit in a head to head fight. All I am saying is that the Cougar would not want that fight. It would be almost impossible to get it to take that fight instead of just trying to flee.

Solo predators know that winning the fight but sustaining a serious injury is the same as losing the fight if it impacts your ability to hunt after and that makes them very weary of getting in unnecessary fights.

The thread scenario is that they are fighting, not walking away.


And in that scenario, the Pitt is fucked.


Average weight of a male Leopard is 200 pounds -male Pitt is 60 to 80 average. Everything on that cat is designed to kill from its claws to its fangs to its muscle mass.


And like I said, looking at other big cats that do encounter pets -like Mountain Lions- those dogs are food.

 

[K-Bag]

Leopard ninjas the pit bull.

That was crazy.

 

[MikeMcMann]

The thread scenario is that they are fighting, not walking away.


And in that scenario, the Pitt is fucked.


Average weight of a male Leopard is 200 pounds -male Pitt is 60 to 80 average. Everything on that cat is designed to kill from its claws to its fangs to its muscle mass.


And like I said, looking at other big cats that do encounter pets -like Mountain Lions- those dogs are food.

I already conceded that.

I said 'if you treat this like comic book character fights where you are saying 'despite their nature, they must fight and fight as if all in and to the death, then the Cougar wins easily'.

I just stated that in real life I don't think you would get that situation very many times and thus the outcome would vary.

So for me it a question of fantasy versus reality and in reality its not as cut and dry but i concede in fantasy it is.

BTW I just saw this very funny article. I can't imagine the WTF moment and why she seemed to hold on.

Woman thought she was breaking up dog fight, grabbed mountain lion instead

 

[BornOnMonday]

A domesticated pet that makes its reputation off killing women and children vs an untamed monster that eats alligators.

 

[Hard To Tell]

I think some people must confuse "game bred" pitbulls with werewolves or something.

 

[StewDogg11]

The thread scenario is that they are fighting, not walking away.


And in that scenario, the Pitt is fucked.


Average weight of a male Leopard is 200 pounds -male Pitt is 60 to 80 average. Everything on that cat is designed to kill from its claws to its fangs to its muscle mass.


And like I said, looking at other big cats that do encounter pets -like Mountain Lions- those dogs are food.

Yes except you’re giving the Pit too much credit as you’ve doubled their weight.

 

[TidWell]

Honey Badger rapes, kills and eats the Game Pit. Maybe not in that order

I saw a video of a Badger giving zero fucks about a poisonous snake, he just let the snake keep biting him wtf? do they have immunity to snake poison too?

Those little skunk looking things are scary, the manlet monster. truly fearless.

 

[D Train]

He ignored those kids completely. That was cool.

 

[Cpt Migraine]

I saw a video of a Badger giving zero fucks about a poisonous snake, he just let the snake keep biting him wtf? do they have immunity to snake poison too?

Those little skunk looking things are scary, the manlet monster. truly fearless.

Not immune but close.. worst case scenario they get wobbly and fall asleep, sleep it off and wake up..

Btw a leopard would bring pit bulls as something for it's kittens to play with.. really no comparison.. not shitting on pit bulls but they are prey in this scenario..

 

[D Train]

The thread scenario is that they are fighting, not walking away.


And in that scenario, the Pitt is fucked.


Average weight of a male Leopard is 200 pounds -male Pitt is 60 to 80 average. Everything on that cat is designed to kill from its claws to its fangs to its muscle mass.


And like I said, looking at other big cats that do encounter pets -like Mountain Lions- those dogs are food.

Actually a male APBT tops out around 60. They are not big dogs. You could engineer some sort of large pitbull hybrid, but even that wouldn’t stand a chance against a 200 pound cat if they actually were forced to fight.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

Yes except you’re giving the Pit too much credit as you’ve doubled their weight.

Actually a male APBT tops out around 60. They are not big dogs. You could engineer some sort of large pitbull hybrid, but even that wouldn’t stand a chance against a 200 pound cat if they actually were forced to fight.

Buddy of mine has had about 4 Pitts in my lifetime -2 male, 2 female. Both males got up to around 70-80 pounds and I wouldn’t consider them fat personally. I don’t think it’s too odd to assume a healthy male Pitt can get up there. But I guess that wouldn’t be a good average, both his Pitts were huge and pretty intimidating.

 

[Prex32]

He ignored those kids completely. That was cool.

that's the death stare

 

[D Train]

Buddy of mine has had about 4 Pitts in my lifetime -2 male, 2 female. Both males got up to around 70-80 pounds and I wouldn’t consider them fat personally. I don’t think it’s too odd to assume a healthy male Pitt can get up there. But I guess that wouldn’t be a good average, both his Pitts were huge and pretty intimidating.

Those were probably a mix of some sort. APBT breed standard is much smaller than that. But I can’t imagine how strong those dogs must have been.

 

[TheLastSpartan]

A large aggressive dog breed can definitely frighten off a leopard or even get the upper hand in a tussle (implying the leopard wouldn't risk injury and would eventually run off).

But lets be real, there isn't a dog in the world that would have a chance in a fight to the death against any big cat (save for a cheetah perhaps, but I don't even consider them as true big cats).

In an actual battle, the dog loses 10/10 times assuming both animals are of comparable health.

 

[AGGAMEMNON66]

Those were probably a mix of some sort. APBT breed standard is much smaller than that. But I can’t imagine how strong those dogs must have been.

He’s what I’d consider a ‘good’ owner too. Both dogs were very mellow/laid back.. they didn’t need to do much, can’t imagine what they could’ve done if they had the mind for it.

 

[sverre054]

Mountain Lions kill dogs of all breeds out of peoples backyards all the time -including pits. They don’t stand much of a chance against a big cat if the cat wants them and there’s no one around to help the dog.


Coyotes for that matter kill dogs when they can too -including pits.

Out in the open, with advance warning, a large aggressive dog, could fight off a Cougar, but the fight would still heavily be in the cougars favor. Cats are all about stealth so, most dogs wouldn't have a chance. There's all sorts of videos on YouTube of leopards snatching up dogs in India. A few of them even walk into apartment buildings, to grab them.

 

[Deleted member 158611]

Leopard all day

Bye bye doggy...

 

[faustian]

Lol at this question. Is anyone itt actually pretending to believe a fkn pitbull stands any chance whatsoever vs an adult male leopard?

The real question is how many pits would it take to make it a fair fight. I'd set the over/under at 4.5 in a cage

 

[IloveTHIS]

Lol at this question. Is anyone itt actually pretending to believe a fkn pitbull stands any chance whatsoever vs an adult male leopard?

No. Literally no one. So, I dont understand why this thread still exists and keeps being bumped. This is the ultra rare occasion where all of the berry is in agreement and can move on to a better more argument enticing subject

 

[HwoarangStyle]

leopard wins 100/100 times. leopards are absolutely vicious killers