Gagging for it (SCO Thread v. 29) Update Mueller Report Released

[bobgeese]

FWIW, it is not liking Trump that makes you a Trumptard. Its your undying support with your admitted lack of knowledge. He counts on a lot of blind support and you give it.

Have you ever made a single post without an insult or profanity?


Take your meds for Christ sake.

 

[AlexDB9]

I don't think you get how reservations/sovereign nation's work..

True you don't get put in jail or prison,

but you do get banished from your tribe, home and land owned and are no longer considered a tribal member within your tribe or acknowledged by the Federal Government..

You’d get this treatment for simply disagreeing?

Don’t want to one up you again, but Cubans are banished and no longer considered Cuban as well haha well for 10 years....but trust me that feels like a lifetime if you can’t see your family

This is probably not the right thread for it but I’ve always been interested in NA life in the 21st century specifically. Ive only ever met a couple people NA but never got a chance to dwelve into how their society works today

 

[grizzard2bid]

Federal prisoners on old sentencing rules get 54 days/year for good time. In 7 years, he'll get more than 1 year off.

That's 6 years for Manafort, not assuming new Criminal Reform bill that passed. So, he's looking at like 4-5 years. lol

 

[*Z*]

LIFE IN PRISON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TREASON!!!!!!!!!!!

.....7 years. Reality.

I don't think anyone actually thought he'd get a life sentence. Just that he's old and even at 7 years might die in prison. He's like 70 isn't he?

 

[AlexDB9]

FWIW, it is not liking Trump that makes you a Trumptard. Its your undying support with your admitted lack of knowledge. He counts on a lot of blind support and you give it.

I get the feeling anyone who disagrees with you is lacking the supreme knowledge you possess

Right......I support many things he does and I disagree with many things he does like a normal person with all their cognitive abilities. What your blind hatred won’t let you see is that there’s an ideology growing in a certain party that has personal connotations for me so...again unless Trump is proven a traitor, that’s a wrap

 

[grizzard2bid]

I don't think anyone actually thought he'd get a life sentence. Just that he's old and even at 7 years might die in prison. He's like 70 isn't he?

No, what I heard being thrown around is 20 years. At 70y.o that's pretty much a life in prison. 5-6 years he'll do......yeah, that's not a life sentence. And he didn't have to be a rat. Standup guy, he's alright in my book.

 

[*Z*]

No, what I heard being thrown around is 20 years. At 70y.o that's pretty much a life in prison. 5-6 years he'll do......yeah, that's not a life sentence. And he didn't have to be a rat. Standup guy, he's alright in my book.

Part of his plea for a lesser sentence in his last case was his failing health. Also I wouldn't call a lifelong criminal a stand up guy.

 

[jk7707]

No, what I heard being thrown around is 20 years. At 70y.o that's pretty much a life in prison. 5-6 years he'll do......yeah, that's not a life sentence. And he didn't have to be a rat. Standup guy, he's alright in my book.

Yep, standup guy who's going to prison for being a liar and a tax cheat. Kinda weird how you are celebrating a scumbag.

 

[syct23]

You’d get this treatment for simply disagreeing?

Don’t want to one up you again, but Cubans are banished and no longer considered Cuban as well haha well for 10 years....but trust me that feels like a lifetime if you can’t see your family

This is probably not the right thread for it but I’ve always been interested in NA life in the 21st century specifically. Ive only ever met a couple people NA but never got a chance to dwelve into how their society works today

It works pretty much how it did a few hundred years ago,

Just with technology tossed in...

And you didn't Juan up me. Cuba banished 10 years, NA for life.

Yeah its odd, I've known a few people who have been banished for a multitude different things.. but it is always crazy to know they are literally erased from the tribe.

I mean yeah, you can go visit them wherever they are. But them knowing they can't go back to see family even if dying or dead for a funeral is brutal..

 

[syct23]

7.5 years for which he'll do 6....maybe 5 with new sentencing lenience bill that passed.
LOL @goofs saying he'll get a life sentence. And this was Obama-appointed judge, mind you.

Hold on,

It keeps getting better...

New York Charges Paul Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
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Paul J. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, has been indicted on new fraud charges in New York.CreditJonathan Ernst/Reuters


By William K. Rashbaum

• March 13, 2019

Paul J. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, has been charged in New York with mortgage fraud and more than a dozen other state felonies, the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance, Jr., said Wednesday, an effort to ensure he will still face prison time if Mr. Trump pardons him for his federal crimes.

News of the indictment came shortly after Mr. Manafort was sentenced to his second federal prison term in two weeks; he now faces a combined sentence of more than seven years for tax and bank fraud and conspiracy in two related cases brought by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III.

The president has broad power to issue pardons for federal crimes, but has no such authority in state cases.

While Mr. Trump has not said he intends to pardon his former campaign chairman, he has often spoken of his power to pardon and has defended Mr. Manafort on a number of occasions, calling him a “brave man.”

four years in prison on one of his two federal cases, far less time than prosecutors had requested; on Wednesday, he was sentenced in Washington, D.C., to serve an additional three and a half years. He could face up to 25 years in New York state prison if convicted of the most serious charges in the new indictment, which is expected to be announced later on Wednesday.

The loans were also the subject of Mr. Mueller’s investigation and were the basis for some of the counts in the federal indictment that led to Mr. Manafort’s conviction last year in Virginia. But the Manhattan prosecutors deferred their inquiry in order not to interfere with Mr. Mueller’s larger investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

In recent months, prosecutors in the district attorney’s Economic Crimes Bureau resumed their inquiry and began presenting evidence to the grand jury, several people with knowledge of the matter have said.

The district attorney’s office determined some time ago that it would seek charges whether or not the president pardoned Mr. Manafort.

a federal judge ruled he had repeatedly lied to the government about his contact with a Russian associate during the campaign and after the election.

Prosecutors claim that the associate, Konstantin V. Kilimnik, has ties to Russian intelligence, and have been investigating whether he was involved in a covert attempt to influence the election results.

Follow William K. Rashbaum on Twitter at @WRashbaum.

https://forums.sherdog.com/nytimes://reader/id/100000006374422/article

 

[MikeMcMann]

Federal prisoners on old sentencing rules get 54 days/year for good time. In 7 years, he'll get more than 1 year off.

That's 6 years for Manafort, not assuming new Criminal Reform bill that passed. So, he's looking at like 4-5 years. lol

lol at you guys celebrating this like its the end for Manafort.

He faces far more charges from Mueller included the accidentally un-redacted Russia collusion stuff that is still to come plus many State actions.

Manafort Charged in New York Just After Federal Sentencing

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Sorry but no pardon on the State charges.

 

[MikeMcMann]

and before it is said


In potential blow to Manafort, Supreme Court unlikely to change double jeopardy rule

Manafort Not Subject to Double Jeopardy, Judge Rules

 

[Joe]

New york coming in on manaforts and trumps pardon scheme

 

[Joe]

Whoa

 

[new_mexico1]

Seems like an awfully light sentence for “treason”...


Liberals overdramatize everything.

Seems like a big sentence for a campaign chairman of a POTUS . ....The campaign chairman to the President of the United States of America.

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

Whoa

Well then that lawyer better get a lawyer for the likely obstruction charges

Question is, how far removed from that is tRUmp? I'm guessing plausible deniability

 

[Strychnine]

7.5 years for which he'll do 6....maybe 5 with new sentencing lenience bill that passed.
LOL @goofs saying he'll get a life sentence. And this was Obama-appointed judge, mind you.

NY filed charges against him 5 minutes after he was sentenced. There is no Presidential pardon for State charges.

But Manafort can rest easy because NY is known for going EASY on people for crimes like this...


Not really. He's made his cell and now he has to meet Fleece Johnson in it.

Spoiler

 

[MikeMcMann]

Well then that lawyer better get a lawyer for the likely obstruction charges

Question is, how far removed from that is tRUmp? I'm guessing plausible deniability

Does that lawyer want to get charged and lose his license for Trump? I suspect he will be called before Congress and asked about it. NO Attorney/Client privilege for criminality.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

Hold on,

It keeps getting better...

New York Charges Paul Manafort With 16 Crimes. If He’s Convicted, Trump Can’t Pardon Him.
Image
Paul J. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, has been indicted on new fraud charges in New York.CreditJonathan Ernst/Reuters


By William K. Rashbaum

• March 13, 2019

Paul J. Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, has been charged in New York with mortgage fraud and more than a dozen other state felonies, the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance, Jr., said Wednesday, an effort to ensure he will still face prison time if Mr. Trump pardons him for his federal crimes.

News of the indictment came shortly after Mr. Manafort was sentenced to his second federal prison term in two weeks; he now faces a combined sentence of more than seven years for tax and bank fraud and conspiracy in two related cases brought by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III.

The president has broad power to issue pardons for federal crimes, but has no such authority in state cases.

While Mr. Trump has not said he intends to pardon his former campaign chairman, he has often spoken of his power to pardon and has defended Mr. Manafort on a number of occasions, calling him a “brave man.”

four years in prison on one of his two federal cases, far less time than prosecutors had requested; on Wednesday, he was sentenced in Washington, D.C., to serve an additional three and a half years. He could face up to 25 years in New York state prison if convicted of the most serious charges in the new indictment, which is expected to be announced later on Wednesday.

The loans were also the subject of Mr. Mueller’s investigation and were the basis for some of the counts in the federal indictment that led to Mr. Manafort’s conviction last year in Virginia. But the Manhattan prosecutors deferred their inquiry in order not to interfere with Mr. Mueller’s larger investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

In recent months, prosecutors in the district attorney’s Economic Crimes Bureau resumed their inquiry and began presenting evidence to the grand jury, several people with knowledge of the matter have said.

The district attorney’s office determined some time ago that it would seek charges whether or not the president pardoned Mr. Manafort.

a federal judge ruled he had repeatedly lied to the government about his contact with a Russian associate during the campaign and after the election.

Prosecutors claim that the associate, Konstantin V. Kilimnik, has ties to Russian intelligence, and have been investigating whether he was involved in a covert attempt to influence the election results.

Follow William K. Rashbaum on Twitter at @WRashbaum.

LOL @grizzard2bid

"Hes only gonna get 5 years!! hes beat the system!!!"

 

[MikeMcMann]

LOL @grizzard2bid

"Hes only gonna get 5 years!! hes beat the system!!!"

He's not even done with the Mueller Charges. There are certainly more to come including the Campaign Collusion stuff.

You don't redact the filings if you are done with the person and only sentencing remains.