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Fury's really not handling the loss well

correct, but not all of us are in the spotlight earning tens of millions of pounds and claiming to be the best fighter who ever lived and other outlandish shit

See, you appear to have an issue with petty hatred for no real reason, us humans are a wacky bunch, no doubt about it
 
How many of those guys have such a well-established history of drugs & alcohol use combined with mental illness? While Fury isn't in camp yet he did just activate a rematch clause ahead of a 9 figure fight. The stakes are as high as they get. Maybe it was a one-off but based on Fury's recent history, probably not. It's starting to look like he's spiraling out of control again.

Disclosing mental illness to the public is relatively new so we don't know about those in the past who were having issues. I'd imagine at least some of the guys I listed did in fact have mental struggles but were never diagnosed and if they were they didn't make them public.

I forgot to add Errol Spence to the list. Talk about high stakes.

 
Disclosing mental illness to the public is relatively new so we don't know about those in the past who were having issues. I'd imagine at least some of the guys I listed did in fact have mental struggles but were never diagnosed and if they were they didn't make them public.

I forgot to add Errol Spence to the list. Talk about high stakes.


True but Fury's are well-documented. Several years back he claims he was suicidal, ballooned up to over 400 lbs, was on coke, drinking himself stupid, and going on neverending benders.

Spence doesn't have anywhere near the profile of Tyson Fury. He's never been involved in a $100m+ fight. Nowhere close to it. And did you see what happened to him when he fought Crawford? He got smashed.
 
True but Fury's are well-documented. Several years back he claims he was suicidal, ballooned up to over 400 lbs, was on coke, drinking himself stupid, and going on neverending benders.

Spence doesn't have anywhere near the profile of Tyson Fury. He's never been involved in a $100m+ fight. Nowhere close to it. And did you see what happened to him when he fought Crawford? He got smashed.
He also beat Ugas, you left that part out. The crash nearly cost him his career and other people's lives too. He still got that career high payday fighting Crawford, right?

Fury getting drunk and having to get carried out of the bar hurt nobody. He's human and similar to a lot of other HOF boxers from the past. I'm not saying it's ideal but I do think he can live his life.
 
He also beat Ugas, you left that part out. The crash nearly cost him his career and other people's lives too. He still got that career high payday fighting Crawford, right?

Fury getting drunk and having to get carried out of the bar hurt nobody. He's human and similar to a lot of other HOF boxers from the past. I'm not saying it's ideal but I do think he can live his life.
Ugas was a notable win but it wasn't the big one though. Spence had a reputation for partying. Crawford doesn't. He's disciplined and takes care of his body. It was only a few weeks ago that Fury fought Usyk and he took a lot of damage in it. Shouldn't he be resting and allowing his body to fully recover rather than poisoning it? This could persist, too. That's the concern that fans naturally have now.
 
Reportedly he was out drinking heavily Friday evening with friends & family. He got so shitfaced that he was escorted out of the pub where he collapsed and hit his head on a lamppost. It seems Johnny Nelson was spot on. There won't be a rematch.


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Tyson Fury escorted from pub by Britain’s bravest bouncers before collapsing outside

This is sad to see.
Of course he's taking it badly....

His confidence, mystique and air of invincibility is gone.
In his last two fights his delusions about himself have been shattered. This is what happens when you hype yourself up too much in your own mind.

- Being beat up and dropped in your own sport by a guy who told you to your face he could end you with a Thanos finger snap if there were no rules

- Being beat up from pillar to post and saved by the bell by a guy who you called a 'pumped up middleweight', who is himself now seriously entertaining dropping down to fight a guy who lost to Floyde Mayweather.

- Having the guy who he had his career defining trilogy fights with get out boxed then in his next fight get KTFO badly by a 41 year old.

Wouldn't surpise me if he
- retires
- Takes the Joshua money fight instead, and gets KTFO

If he does rematch Usyk, he gets stopped this time.
 
Ugas was a notable win but it wasn't the big one though. Spence had a reputation for partying. Crawford doesn't. He's disciplined and takes care of his body. It was only a few weeks ago that Fury fought Usyk and he took a lot of damage in it. Shouldn't he be resting and allowing his body to fully recover rather than poisoning it? This could persist, too. That's the concern that fans naturally have now.
I'm not going to take away from the Ugas fight considering it was a unification bout. It wasn't a blockbuster but unification is still unification. It led to a career high payday. The problem with the Spence crash is we'll never know what would've happen in the Crawford-Spence fight if the crash never happen. There have been plenty of examples of fighters who battle with alcohol etc that have beat fighters who live clean fwiw.

My point is this ... I don't think it's a big deal he got obliterated drunk for one night. He's a grown adult and he's not in camp let him live a little.

If it becomes a trend, then yeah I agree he's going in a bad direction, but for all we know this is a one off.
 
I'm not going to take away from the Ugas fight considering it was a unification bout. It wasn't a blockbuster but unification is still unification. It led to a career high payday. The problem with the Spence crash is we'll never know what would've happen in the Crawford-Spence fight if the crash never happen. There have been plenty of examples of fighters who battle with alcohol etc that have beat fighters who live clean fwiw.

My point is this ... I don't think it's a big deal he got obliterated drunk for one night. He's a grown adult and he's not in camp let him live a little.

If it becomes a trend, then yeah I agree he's going in a bad direction, but for all we know this is a one off.
There have been plenty of fighters that battled drug & alcohol addiction and they were still successful. But it never helps a fighter's situation. It's completely counterproductive to their goals.

We'll have to see whether this was a one-off or if it persists. Reportedly his own inner circle is concerned about his well-being at the moment and they should be. Having a few beers here and there when out of camp is fine but he overindulged here to say the least. A guy that size isn't going to get that intoxicated unless he was drinking like a fish.
 
There have been plenty of fighters that battled drug & alcohol addiction and they were still successful. But it never helps a fighter's situation. It's completely counterproductive to their goals.

We'll have to see whether this was a one-off or if it persists. Reportedly his own inner circle is concerned about his well-being at the moment and they should be. Having a few beers here and there when out of camp is fine but he overindulged here to say the least. A guy that size isn't going to get that intoxicated unless he was drinking like a fish.

I wouldn't read to much into this personally. It could be just letting some steam off before getting ready for another gruelling camp. If Fury had won the fight, he would still be out indulging in these antics. It's amazing how folks can spin the narrative that Fury isn't dealing with the loss well after perhaps one big drinking session. Fury just seems like any other English bloke at the pub and likes a blow out once in a while with the boys.

Not the greatest look for him I'll admit, probably should be a little smarter about his surroundings and all. I expect Fury will be in great shape for the next fight.
 
I wouldn't read to much into this personally. It could be just letting some steam off before getting ready for another gruelling camp. If Fury had won the fight, he would still be out indulging in these antics. It's amazing how folks can spin the narrative that Fury isn't dealing with the loss well after perhaps one big drinking session. Fury just seems like any other English bloke at the pub and likes a blow out once in a while with the boys.

Not the greatest look for him I'll admit, probably should be a little smarter about his surroundings and all. I expect Fury will be in great shape for the next fight.
Like I said in my last post reportedly it's also a concern among those that are close to him. This is uncharted territory for him, he'd never lost before professionally (officially), so nobody really knows what kind of behavior to expect out of him. If this is any indication of what's to come then he's in big trouble. In order to beat Usyk he'll have to be better than he's ever been. Especially his conditioning. According to him there was nothing more he could've possibly done in there against Usyk in the first fight. He admitted this at the post-fight press conference.
 
Like I said in my last post reportedly it's also a concern among those that are close to him. This is uncharted territory for him, he'd never lost before professionally (officially), so nobody really knows what kind of behavior to expect out of him. If this is any indication of what's to come then he's in big trouble. In order to beat Usyk he'll have to be better than he's ever been. Especially his conditioning. According to him there was nothing more he could've possibly done in there against Usyk in the first fight. He admitted this at the post-fight press conference.

Two years ago Fury was seen doing similar stuff, drunk and kicking a taxi. It's pretty normal behaviour for him, not really anything out of the ordinary. I'm willing to give him a pass on this one as just a one off blow out before getting ready for the rematch.

He'll probably be back in the gym soon enough but who knows if he believes he can beat Usyk anymore or this will be the cash out fight.
 
Two years ago Fury was seen doing similar stuff, drunk and kicking a taxi. It's pretty normal behaviour for him, not really anything out of the ordinary. I'm willing to give him a pass on this one as just a one off blow out before getting ready for the rematch.

He'll probably be back in the gym soon enough but who knows if he believes he can beat Usyk anymore or this will be the cash out fight.
I remember when he kicked the taxi but he wasn't kissing pavement and hitting his head on lampposts. He was also kicked out of the Nowhere Bar in Morecambe likely for disorderly behavior. Patrons are usually just cut off by the bartender not physically escorted out. It begs the question, what exactly did he do in there? Whatever it was it has people close to him worried. The media was tipped off about it. They probably know more about his behavior lately than the public does.

Tyson Fury's inner circle 'concerned' over how Gypsy King is dealing with his first professional defeat after footage emerges of heavyweight star, 35, collapsing outside Morecambe bar
 
I remember when he kicked the taxi but he wasn't kissing pavement and hitting his head on lampposts. He was also kicked out of the Nowhere Bar in Morecambe likely for disorderly behavior. Patrons are usually just cut off by the bartender not physically escorted out. It begs the question, what exactly did he do in there? Whatever it was it has people close to him worried. The media was tipped off about it. They probably know more about his behavior lately than the public does.

Tyson Fury's inner circle 'concerned' over how Gypsy King is dealing with his first professional defeat after footage emerges of heavyweight star, 35, collapsing outside Morecambe bar

He's probably been blowing off some steam after a hard, long camp and a tough fight with Usyk. Probably wants to let loose a bit and quite clearly overdone it. We have all been there, it happens.. Fury has never been squeaky clean anyway. I'm just saying for now this might be a one off and it's just hearsay at the moment. I'm sure as the fight gets closer we will learn how seriously Fury is taking the rematch. If the fight is postponed then I guess there is probably something going on.

Time will only tell I guess.
 
Dam hes only 35. Thought he was closer to 40 from his mileage and look for some reason. I guess he's just been in the spotlight for such a long time.

Getting plastered is fine for a grown man with no real demons or responsibility.

Its a legit problem when you are an alcoholic who seems to come from a family tree of alcoholics. As well as having severe bipolar issues.

Hes been as good as a provider as one can be for entire family. However, I loose a lot of respect for parents who choose a consistent night life & drugs over being home with their children at night.

Once a real alcoholic opens the gate back to this kind of behavior there is no putting the genie back in the bottle without hitting rock-bottom or hardcore intervention.

I was favoring Fury in the rematch. Now I'd pick Usyk 100% easy.

I dont know if it has so much to do with him "handling the loss." He did the exact same thing for the biggest win of his career. Dude is an addict and shouldn't put himself in certain positions.

I can't feel sorry for world famous multi millionaires living in multiple lavish estates all over the globe. Especially having a loving & supportive wife & family. Dude has been blessed beyond belief with so much. Suck it up, get help before you lose the perfect life that you have.
 
He's probably been blowing off some steam after a hard, long camp and a tough fight with Usyk. Probably wants to let loose a bit and quite clearly overdone it. We have all been there, it happens.. Fury has never been squeaky clean anyway. I'm just saying for now this might be a one off and it's just hearsay at the moment. I'm sure as the fight gets closer we will learn how seriously Fury is taking the rematch. If the fight is postponed then I guess there is probably something going on.

Time will only tell I guess.
I've never been this trashed. Stumbled into things, sure, but not kicked out of a bar only to fall flat on my face. I expect the rematch to be postponed for one reason or another. Last time it was postponed twice because of Fury. Forget about this latest incident though. Many people including myself have been doubting that Fury even goes through with the rematch. His history with rematches doesn't exactly inspire confidence. And if he does go through with it there's no telling what kind of physical shape he'll be in or where his head will be at. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
Like I said in my last post reportedly it's also a concern among those that are close to him. This is uncharted territory for him, he'd never lost before professionally (officially), so nobody really knows what kind of behavior to expect out of him. If this is any indication of what's to come then he's in big trouble. In order to beat Usyk he'll have to be better than he's ever been. Especially his conditioning. According to him there was nothing more he could've possibly done in there against Usyk in the first fight. He admitted this at the post-fight press conference.
everyone who fights Usyk comes out with the same kind of story, they dont know what they could have done better

i dont know if its a serious lack of amatuer competition for a lot of these fighters but they dont seem to be able to handle his slight movements, always keeping them on their toes and not knowing when the next punch may come from, its very very clever and you can see it happening, just nobody has managed to solve the riddle yet

we've seen him hurt a few times from body shots and head shots, but the fella seems to recover very quickly and fires back which puts people on the back foot right away, people dont seem to want to commit against him, so he must hit harder than people give him credit for

he is a very interesting riddle is Mr Usyk, he never looks amazing(or he hasnt at HW at least), yet nobody can figure him out
 
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