frustrated by the GAYEST sub defense ever

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Dirty Holt, Jul 30, 2005.

  1. Dirty Holt

    Dirty Holt Black Belt Professional Fighter

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    5,239
    Likes Received:
    1,731
    Location:
    Olympic Training Center
    so im going hard fighting a guy, no strikes, and the dude kept wrapping his fingers in his long ass hair to avoid submissions. at first i laughed, then i got frustrated because his defense was fuckin unstoppable. i nailed him in like ten keylocks and americanas, and he would wrap his fingers in his hair and there was no way in hell i was gonna get any pressure. i even armbarred this dude and he grabbed his hair and i couldnt get him. is this even legal? i got a good laugh out of it, but damn, it actually worked like a fuckin charm.
     
  2. JudoStriker

    JudoStriker Guest

    WOW ! I thought I had heard it all. Makes you wonder how he came up w/that technique.. . I think I would have choked him out w/his own locks (assuming they where long enough).
     
  3. lostdog000

    lostdog000 Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2004
    Messages:
    13,522
    Likes Received:
    8,242
    Location:
    They Came Together (2014) - IMDb
    leglocks
     
  4. proxy

    proxy Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2005
    Messages:
    688
    Likes Received:
    0
    yes, leg locks
     
  5. possenti

    possenti I knew all the rules-but the rules did not know me

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2005
    Messages:
    5,212
    Likes Received:
    101
    Location:
    The Lower Road
    Like a gi, long hair works both ways. Ask Kimo or that Paulson(?) guy who got owned by the boxer.
     
  6. killakoy

    killakoy Purple Belt

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    1,856
    Likes Received:
    96
    Location:
    Hilo, HI
    if he can grab it... you can grab it.
     
  7. mmahamzah

    mmahamzah Sheeeeit

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2005
    Messages:
    2,071
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    uk
    brute force would of wrked
     
  8. Dirty Holt

    Dirty Holt Black Belt Professional Fighter

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    5,239
    Likes Received:
    1,731
    Location:
    Olympic Training Center
    we werent striking, he is a bjj guy. brute force absolutely didnt work, trust me i tried it. i actually abandonned all arm locks, and went to knee bars and heel hooks. if he would have somehow locked his toes into his hair i would have shit my pants, ate my hat, and walked out of the building an amazed and confused person.
     
  9. CharlieBrown

    CharlieBrown Green Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    1,232
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Wow, that's interesting.

    I would have thought the pain of hair-pulling (even if he is the one actually doing the pulling) would have rendered this concept unworkable.

    Leglocks, yes. Hell hooks. Kneebars. Etc....

    I have to ask how much force you are applying to an armbar, since a handful of hair seems to be enough to stop you from extending the arm. I understand if this is a friend, and you just didn't want to go balls-out on him while he has a handful of hair, sure. But in a real "live" go, I wouldn't be able to really believe a guy wasn't as strong as a handful of hair.

    You could sweep back and turn that armbar into a triangle, as well. Once you sink that, he can grab his hair all he wants to.

    It's a weird concept.
     
  10. TheHumungus

    TheHumungus Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2005
    Messages:
    1,602
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The Post-Apocalyptic Wastes

    Hair pulling varies depending on the kind of hair you have.

    My hair is really really thick, so a good handful of it is like a billion hairs, so the pull is really spread out. Someone with thin hair, you could rip a handful out.
     
  11. Cold Front

    Cold Front Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2004
    Messages:
    8,481
    Likes Received:
    2,968
    Just when you think you've learned all there is to know about fighting, the evolution continues.
     
  12. Bruno_Barbarian

    Bruno_Barbarian Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2005
    Messages:
    2,149
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Espírito Santo - Brazil
    He would grab his chest hair, lol
     
  13. stillstandin

    stillstandin A.K.A. Rockintako

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2004
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Underneath A Rickshaw
    wow, seriously i thought i had seen it all with "fake taps"..now this, id say leglocks of course and if u really want the arm switch to a threat with a bicept splicer and wristlocks to make him let go of his hair then finish it, but a good splicer does wonders.
     
  14. Mahony

    Mahony Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2004
    Messages:
    846
    Likes Received:
    59
    Location:
    EU
    hahaha nice submission defence, any pics?
     
  15. sakurobby1

    sakurobby1 Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2005
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Ohio
    Weird sub defense
     
  16. phenomfan1529

    phenomfan1529 Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2005
    Messages:
    4,657
    Likes Received:
    2
    thats the gayest sub defense ive heard of
     
  17. Bmonk**

    Bmonk** Guest

    I don't know why, but that is the funniest shit ever.

    But still, how can someone tug on their own hair that hard without having any of it pulled out?

    Pulling hair is a submission in itself to some people. Damn.
     
  18. Timbaland

    Timbaland Black Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2003
    Messages:
    5,541
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    510
    If you keep cranking the sub attempt won't his hair eventually get ripped out? I would keep trying to finish a sub to see if that would happen. At least his sub defense isn't checking your oil.
     
  19. Ybot

    Ybot Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2003
    Messages:
    1,800
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    Modesto, CA
    It's a question of him grabing enough hair to spread the pressure around his scalp. Kinda like lying on a bed of nails. To finish the arm bar when he grabed his hair maybe grab the hand and the guys hair too, but don't grab big clumps, maybe in smaller sections.
     
  20. 350 lbs fist

    350 lbs fist Black Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2004
    Messages:
    5,110
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Norway
    Wow!
    Never heard of that one before.
    Although it might not be so easy to get away with in my weight division though...
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.