News Francis will only re-sign if he's allowed to box

[Bwagster]

He probably wouldn't tbh. He's got money and you probably don't (like him anyways)

I mean look at Chael the other week, dude beat the shit out of 5 people and basically had nothing happen to him.

Because it was justified.

 

[markys00]

Literally EVERYONE to Dana right now:

Not even close to literal. Not even hypothetical.

 

[Roids]

I assume this is sarcasm? I really hope it is.

Francis by windmill arms of doom? Wilder has 45 pro fights as a boxer, Ngannou? 0

But Wilder is the king of windmills. You don't need experience as a pro boxer to be able to beat a pro boxer. We have already seen that many times. Wilder literally has nothing but a very telegraphed right hand, and nothing else. Francis at 270lbs would be the power puncher in that match up.

Was that video of Wilder knocking out bums supposed to be impressive? Most of them got back up while Francis literally sends heads into orbit and puts people unconscious.

 

[Dirge]

But Wilder is the king of windmills. You don't need experience as a pro boxer to be able to beat a pro boxer. We have already seen that many times. Wilder literally has nothing but a very telegraphed right hand, and nothing else.

Given your tenure on here, I assume you follow boxing or did at some point? Wilder may not be the most technical striker but he's very effective at what he does. I boxed for quite a few years and some of the things he does to set up the big strike are quite technical. Also saying he has no chin is pretty funny given he only has 2 actual losses.

Ngannou is a mess of a striker in MMA. He has big power and a great chin and uses it to bully fighters into a finish. Hell, he got outstruck by the Black beast.

He would get eaten alive by a legit pro boxer. If you think otherwise, you are deluding yourself.

 

[Nigelbro]

But Wilder is the king of windmills. You don't need experience as a pro boxer to be able to beat a pro boxer. We have already seen that many times. Wilder literally has nothing but a very telegraphed right hand, and nothing else. Francis at 270lbs would be the power puncher in that match up.

Was that video of Wilder knocking out bums supposed to be impressive? Most of them got back up while Francis literally sends heads into orbit and puts people unconscious.

Wilder is broken. Francis is not very good in boxing terms.
It’s a fair matchup on paper I’d watch it.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Nope.

Ngannou gets murdered against any top 15 current ranked HW.

Big power means nothing against guys that can slip punches with ease. Not to mention his cardio is average at best for an MMA HW.

Plus, HW pro boxers eat big shots for breakfast.

Well, according to Sherdog, Ngannou is the hardest hitter in the UFC, possibly the world. He hits harder then a ford focus for fucks sake, lol.

 

[Dirge]

Well, according to Sherdog, Ngannou is the hardest hitter in the UFC, possibly the world. He hits harder then a ford focus for fucks sake, lol.

lol. Doesn't matter how hard you hit if you can't connect or you are too tired to punch within 2 rounds.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

lol. Doesn't matter how hard you hit if you can't connect or you are too tired to punch within 2 rounds.

The correct response is Ford Focus doesnt hit back. But yes, Ngannou has no bidness trying to fight guys like Tyson Fury or Deontay. Stay in your lane Francis, lol.

 

[XNYHCX]

Good for Francis. He shouldn't be wasting his time fighting for peanuts relative to what he could be making.

Hope he leaves.

But the potential opportunity only exists because the UFC took a chance on him five years ago. He wasn't going to make himself a boxing career.

All he has to do is not resign. Box. And then sign. Good luck if loses.

 

[Dirge]

But the potential opportunity only exists because the UFC took a chance on him five years ago. He wasn't going to make himself a boxing career.

All he has to do is not resign. Box. And then sign. Good luck if loses.

He's too old to start a boxing career. They would want him against name guys and he'd get slaughtered. Boxing has a very specific training requirement and there are many aspects that are far away from MMA training. If he wanted to be a boxer, he should have been training in boxing and not bothered with MMA.

 

[Sweater of AV]

But the potential opportunity only exists because the UFC took a chance on him five years ago. He wasn't going to make himself a boxing career.

All he has to do is not resign. Box. And then sign. Good luck if loses.

Yeah no shit but that doesn't mean he should stick around when he could be making much more. Also, we have no idea what would have happened to him as a boxer although I agree it would have been difficult.

That doesn't make any sense. If he wins he can't just not resign. If he loses he'll be perfectly fine though and will have the opportunity to make more money.

 

[KOPPE]

few freak fights and a mega fight with Fury (who called him out first) and Francis will be set for life.

 

[Sweater of AV]

few freak fights and a mega fight with Fury (who called him out first) and Francis will be set for life.

Exactly. It won't take much for Francis to earn a lot of money. Even without fighting one of the top guys he'll be just fine. He also won't be under an exclusive contract that completely limits him.

 

[Captain Herb]

I hope he and every other fighter does whatever brings them the most return and if that doesn't include the UFC, then fuck the UFC.

 

[XNYHCX]

A UFC fighter shouldn't have to beg to be able to compete in another sport.


That's just outrageous. Dana's gotten away with his slave contracts for way too long.


UFC fighters aren't even employees. They are contractors. They don't get any benefits, insurance, or guaranteed pay.
On top of that, the red goof doesn't want them to be able to make money doing other jobs.

Not to mention, the UFC can fire you 3 fights into an 8 fight contract, but you can't quit until you fight all 8 fights.

Don't even know how all this is legal in 2022 (Happy New year Shertards)

It's legal for grown men and women to enter into an agreement together. Hopefully that will never change. Who is the government to tell you and I that we, as free thinking adults, cannot agree on our own terms?

Pardon my asking, but are you under the impression this was somehow imposed on Ngannou against his will? That's not rhetorical; I'm just not clear on why it's legality would ever be questioned. Exclusivity is a prolific and mundane clause.

To put some light on this: You could be on a pharmaceutical board and have a clause in your contract that forbids you from snowboarding (professionally and recreationally).

If your actions negatively impact the confidence in the company, it's value declines. Stocks decline, investors move on, etc.

 

[Gigaton Punch]

If he wants to challenge himself, I'd say let him
Yes he'd get cracked but it's his choice if he thinks he can get a fight like that made.

 

[crodor3]

Wilders ko power with boxing gloves is already proven, Francis’ ko power might transfer over to boxing but it’s not a sure thing. I’d bet on Wilder.

You would bet in the guy boxing with 45 pro fights Against a dummy who never boxed pro? Bold!

 

[KOPPE]

Exactly. It won't take much for Francis to earn a lot of money. Even without fighting one of the top guys he'll be just fine. He also won't be under an exclusive contract that completely limits him.

yes. making millions in boxing is better than potentially losing to Gane or Jones.

 

[spinup]

If he wants to challenge himself, I'd say let him
Yes he'd get cracked but it's his choice if he thinks he can get a fight like that made.

Exactly, the guy risked his like to get to France to become a boxing world champion, he has every right to take the opportunities.
This is way more meaningful than all the Woodleys, Askren or McGregor doing it.

Not saying he would necessarily do better.

 

[Spath]

By "big boxing fight" do you mean make a lot of money? If so, then you're completely wrong. The past year should be a good indication of how wrong you are.

Not even talking about the obvious examples, why did Chavez Jr. fight Anderson? Francis can easily get interesting and lucrative boxing fights. On top of that, he won't have to deal with the UFC's nonsense.

Well, you might be right. Boxing has had a lot of weird matches lately. I have no idea how much money there is, but you’re right.

He can’t box the Paul brothers, though. So what money fights could he get?