Media Francis looking natty af back in 2013

AlanGregson said:
He lookes average to me tbh, certainly not someone that could put on 50lbs of straight up muscle in a couple of years of starting mma training in France.
Tyron woodley is a prime example of what an actual freak is like, he was jacked natty and he's ridicoulous with juice.
Do you actually train mma, do you understand the impact of intensive cardio training has on your muscle building capabilities?
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lol ngannou dont do cardio, he admitted it himself, he started cardio lately.

plus look at this recent picture




The dude doesnt strike as on juice, he is just super thick, and his core is strong, and massive. His shoulders aren't that big relative to his body, his body shape is harmonious, very strong leg, super thick joints, his back aint very wide, but super thick.

I know guys almost like him, who do sanda though, less cardio than MMA taxing I admit, but it is not like Ngannou is a cardio freak ...
 
Beherit said:
lol ngannou dont do cardio, he admitted it himself, he started cardio lately.

plus look at this recent picture




The dude doesnt strike as on juice, he is just super thick, and his core is strong, and massive. His shoulders aren't that big relative to his body, his body shape is harmonious, very strong leg, super thick joints, his back aint very wide, but super thick.

I know guys almost like him, who do sanda though, less cardio than MMA taxing I admit, but it is not like Ngannou is a cardio freak ...
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Lmao, instead of sitting on your ass, go buy some gloves and hit the bag for 2mins and then come back and tell me that ngannou doesnt do a lot of cardio, pad work, bag work, sparring... Thats all a shit ton of cardio and most of your training revolves around it
 
AlanGregson said:
Lmao, instead of sitting on your ass, go buy some gloves and hit the bag for 2mins and then come back and tell me that ngannou doesnt do a lot of cardio, pad work, bag work, sparring... Thats all a shit ton of cardio and most of your training revolves around it
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ad hominem argument ... Okay mate ur right, ngannou is on steroid, my friends are on steroids too, any west african man jacker than u is on steroid. And ngannou looks like this
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Beherit said:
ad hominem argument ... Okay mate ur right, ngannou is on steroid, my friends are on steroids too, any west african man jacker than u is on steroid. And ngannou looks like this
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You seem to not understand how doses effect muscle building capability, dorian yates doesnt get tested by usada so he could run 1000mg of test and not have to worry about anything, yates also didnt do a lot of cardio, he just lifted weights 5-6 times a week where as an mma fighter only lifts 2-3 times a week mixed in with a lot of other mma spesific training,your sanda frienda are nowhere near as jacked as ngannou, il bet my left nut on it, you also dont seem to understand genetics, just because one individual can look like a freak natrually, it doesnt mean everyone else can, genetics matter a lot, and ngannou's muscle building genetics are not freak like which i Highlighted with pics of his early adulthood.
As predicted you dont train mma and i doubt you even understand steroids, how they work, the spesifics and so on...
 
Is it just me or does Ngannou not look that big? Just by looking at him and knowing he's 6'4 I would guess he's maybe 230, he definitely doesnt look 260 to me.
 
613MMAfan said:
Is it just me or does Ngannou not look that big? Just by looking at him and knowing he's 6'4 I would guess he's maybe 230, he definitely doesnt look 260 to me.
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That's an African build for you.

He doesn't have the widest shoulders but he's very thick with dense bones. Sodiq Yuseff is the same way too, doesn't look like the biggest FW by any means but he actually cuts more weight than any FW. Those Africans have very dense and strong muscles and bones.
 
Beherit said:
strength is not like muscle mass ...

caucasian and mongoloïd are stronger % to their mass, west africans have more muscle mass and usually are more explosive ( most of the sprinter are west africans of origin ).

There are some difference between race, u should understand it, and accept it. Most of the marathon winner are east african, it is life bro. Same here, west african are on average jacker than the usual caucasian man. Ngannou still looks big to me ( relative to his height ) in the picture u showed. Plus look at his joints thickness, he clearly is a genetic freak. Just like their are some freak in IQ or some shits, there are in shape, deal with it.
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Is This true? What about IQ?
 
Portland8242 said:
That's an African build for you.

He doesn't have the widest shoulders but he's very thick with dense bones. Sodiq Yuseff is the same way too, doesn't look like the biggest FW by any means but he actually cuts more weight than any FW. Those Africans have very dense and strong muscles and bones.
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If your 5ft9 and can still make 145 you dont have thick bones...
 
AlanGregson said:
If your 5ft9 and can still make 145 you dont have thick bones...
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He cuts 24.2 pounds to make 145. Just for comparison, Paulo Costa cuts 29 pounds despite being a much larger man. Yusuff actually cuts more % of his bodyweight than Paulo does.
 
AlanGregson said:
1.Well i've been around mma fighters and world class sprinters in real life, i was a very good athlete growing up and had the privlage to talk to a lot of world class athletes and the vast majority of theme were and are using something, thats just the reality of pro sports.
2. Grappling isnt more cardio intensive, it is however more muscle endurance intensive as in squezzing
3. I went to medical school and nowhere in that time were steroids a real subject in biology class, you might understand the basics as in how anabolic steroids work but have no idiea on spesifics like doeses and what compounds which atheltes take.

Ngannou was average looking before he got on the juice, people making millions of their body's preformance are gonna take ped's, just like the guy in your picture, with the typical 3d capped delts. Honestly you probably couldnt name me 3 oral compounds of the top of your head, be sure to google it tho.
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again another bad angle for this picture, GSP is not that jacked IRL, u know it.
 
AlanGregson said:
1.Well i've been around mma fighters and world class sprinters in real life, i was a very good athlete growing up and had the privlage to talk to a lot of world class athletes and the vast majority of theme were and are using something, thats just the reality of pro sports.
2. Grappling isnt more cardio intensive, it is however more muscle endurance intensive as in squezzing
3. I went to medical school and nowhere in that time were steroids a real subject in biology class, you might understand the basics as in how anabolic steroids work but have no idiea on spesifics like doeses and what compounds which atheltes take.

Ngannou was average looking before he got on the juice, people making millions of their body's preformance are gonna take ped's, just like the guy in your picture, with the typical 3d capped delts. Honestly you probably couldnt name me 3 oral compounds of the top of your head, be sure to google it tho.
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and good job ignoring the difference between different populations ...

I am sad u failed ur medical school though.
 
Doctor Lenovo said:
So, much racism in this thread. I am waiting to see how many people get double yellow carded. LOL
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Are you one of those dudes that has to find racism in everything in order to feel good about himself and wash away any of the potential guilt you have built up inside yourself, cmon son, let it out.
Biology isnt racist
 
AlanGregson said:
Thats skinny, no matter how you look at it, he was typical lanky african dude with an atheltic build, lucky for him he is hyper responsive to gear, looks like adesanya in this pic tbh.
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He may well be on PEDs, but you’re delusional if you think he looks like Adesanya/lanky here
 
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