Francis is the incarnate of the A-Level athlete fantasy

That whole argument is just aimed to put down MMA fighters by self hating fans anyway.
Francis murked both mma and boxing "pros" after a few years of training. If he was American he would have been in NCAA D 1 and declaring for the draft in whatever pro sport he was in.
 
For sure. You can look up several articles about the emergence of Africans and 2nd generation Africans in the NFL.
You’re just stereotyping, if Africans were supreme athletes then there would be a dominance skin color in Champions League soccer. There would be too much profit for scouts to not have already established a pipeline for West African soccer players to dominate Europe, similar to Blacks dominating 1990/2000’s era NBA and Jamaicans dominating track. There is no dominant skin color in Soccer though.
 
He started boxing, it's like downplaying MMA after Alex won the MW title and just beat a former LHW Champion.

Everybody knows Fury is a HW great and all but he was obviously out of shape and didn't take this fight seriously.
 
It wasnt that long ago that some Sherdoggers were telling me that Francis would end up sharing a siamese shirt with Rampage on the Circus Fighting League for leaving the UFC. For that person who said that please show up in this thread <Moves>
That was before they realized how much MORE they knew than they had initially stated. They knew everything, always. They just lost track of all they knew
 
You’re just stereotyping, if Africans were supreme athletes then there would be a dominance skin color in Champions League soccer. There would be too much profit for scouts to not have already established a pipeline for West African soccer players to dominate Europe, similar to Blacks dominating 1990/2000’s era NBA and Jamaicans dominating track. There is no dominant skin color in Soccer though.

I never mentioned skin color.
 
You’re just stereotyping, if Africans were supreme athletes then there would be a dominance skin color in Champions League soccer. There would be too much profit for scouts to not have already established a pipeline for West African soccer players to dominate Europe, similar to Blacks dominating 1990/2000’s era NBA and Jamaicans dominating track. There is no dominant skin color in Soccer though.
You can't develop football players without great leagues, cblus and big money, plus football needs way more skills than american handegg or those weirdo sports you guys love to call players A level athletes.

But plenty of brazilians clubs are picking up Africans to play on under16/17 teams.
 
Brock probably ate a whole pharmacy each day, so he's irrelevant. He never performed at the highest level in any sport and he became a champ in the UFC when the level was still low and without USADA.

Also, he's such an "A athlete" that he was insecure his whole life about not even making it to the NFL : "This is no load of bull; it's no WWE stunt. I am dead serious about this," he said via Bloody Elbow. "I ain't afraid of anything, and I ain't afraid of anybody. I've been an underdog in athletics since I was 5. I got zero college offers for wrestling. Now people say I can't play football, that it's a joke. I say I can."

https://www.sportbible.com/football...d-out-for-nfl-side-minnesota-vikings-20191231

If he was such a freak, he would have win much more money elsewhere but he didn't.

As for Joshua, there are many more impressive examples than him.
Brock only made it to the last cuts in the Minnesota Vikings training camp because he was such a freak athlete. I’m not saying he was natty, I’m saying that 6’3 283 benching 225 30x, running a 4.7 40 yard dash is freakishly athletic. Him getting cut had more to do with him never playing a down of D1 Football.



https://www.essentiallysports.com/w...orm-better-at-the-nfl-combine-than-tom-brady/


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Aaron Donald 6’0 3/4 287 lbs / 4.68 40 yard dash / 32 inch vertical / 225 lbs 35x

Brock Lesnar 6’3 283 lbs / 4.7 40 yard dash / 35 inch vertical / 225 30x
 
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I never mentioned skin color.
You didn’t have to. Why aren’t Africans dominating Champions League soccer? That is by far the most popular sport and there’s no way scouts wouldn’t have developed a pipeline to scout African talent, European soccer has been big business since the 1980s Maradona era. The 1970s was the last time a World Class soccer player wouldn’t play regularly for a European Club team, because it’s big business.
 
You’re just stereotyping, if Africans were supreme athletes then there would be a dominance skin color in Champions League soccer. There would be too much profit for scouts to not have already established a pipeline for West African soccer players to dominate Europe

Except that there's still discrimination in sport : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-13236864

I don't say i agree with the guy you quoted, but don't act like everything is fair for everyone else because it's not the case. Sport is and remains a business, so not completely meritocratic.
 
But instead of being an NBA or NFL player, it's a dude that was digging ditches in Africa. Life is really stranger than fiction.

"Francis with 8 months of boxing training beats Fury".
Nah it’s not. Calm down . Francis is amazing yes
 
Brock only made it to the last cuts in the Minnesota Vikings training camp because he was such a freak athlete. I’m not saying he was natty, I’m saying that 6’3 285lbs benching 225 30x, running a 4.7 40 yard dash is freakishly athletic. Him getting cut had more to do with him never playing a down of D1 Football.

There's no official data for his combine results, so it's bullshit + more importantly, he was cut from the NFL. That's the only thing that actually matters.
 
You’re just stereotyping, if Africans were supreme athletes then there would be a dominance skin color in Champions League soccer. There would be too much profit for scouts to not have already established a pipeline for West African soccer players to dominate Europe, similar to Blacks dominating 1990/2000’s era NBA and Jamaicans dominating track. There is no dominant skin color in Soccer though.
It’s not that easy dummy
 
You’re just stereotyping, if Africans were supreme athletes then there would be a dominance skin color in Champions League soccer. There would be too much profit for scouts to not have already established a pipeline for West African soccer players to dominate Europe, similar to Blacks dominating 1990/2000’s era NBA and Jamaicans dominating track. There is no dominant skin color in Soccer though.
Also soccer isn’t just about athletics. It’s coaching. Budget. Equipment. But how many of the best soccer players are of African decent? Just look at Brazil for your answer
 
You didn’t have to. Why aren’t Africans dominating Champions League soccer? That is by far the most popular sport and there’s no way scouts wouldn’t have developed a pipeline to scout African talent, European soccer has been big business since the 1980s Maradona era. The 1970s was the last time a World Class soccer player wouldn’t play regularly for a European Club team, because it’s big business.

Idk why Africans don’t dominate soccer, nor do I care. Is soccer the only sport in the world? Is soccer the standard of athletic prowess?

Also, before you butted into my interaction with the other poster, the context of our conversation was, “wow a lot of good athletes from Africa in combat sports”. To which my response was, “yeah they’re also doing well in the NFL”.

So before you go crashing someone’s conversation, first have a clue of what they’re talking about. No one said Africans are better because they’re black. We simply pointed out two areas where they’re currently excelling.
 
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