Formula for Sanders victory?

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Unless there is a body of water at the Democratic Convention for Bernie to walk across as he enters, I think this is a *tremendous* longshot at best :(
 
Raise the cuckery of American men 600% and Sanders might win.
 
Bernie is literally disgusting for acting like he is a man of the people. And now this shmuck is pandering and getting on his knees for the votes of the "evil" SuperDelegates.

I mean lol. Bernie now needs the evil SuperDelegates to win lol. Lol at this joke


Rygu said:
Raise the cuckery of American men 600% and Sanders might win.
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Let's be honest Hillary is more womanly than Sanders wife is any day and is more of a man than Sanders could ever hope to be ideologically. A Sanders presidency would be Justin Trudeau x100 with the apologizing, and self hate.
 
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SouthoftheAndes said:
Bernie is literally disgusting for acting like he is a man of the people. And now this shmuck is pandering and getting on his knees for the votes of the "evil" SuperDelegates.

I mean lol. Bernie now needs the evil SuperDelegates to win lol. Lol at this joke
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I haven't followed the whole Super Delegate talk in the media. Do you have anything to say about the guy's math in the OP link?
 
sabretruth said:
I haven't followed the whole Super Delegate talk in the media. Do you have anything to say about the guy's math in the OP link?
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I don't care. That guy is a crazy conspiracy theorist and is creepy. He has way too much free time on his hands and should stop jerking it to Bernie Sanders.

Guy is a joke. No experts agree with this deranged weirdo.
 
HendoRuaGOAT said:
He is 100% right in his math. This is going to a contested convention for the Dems, and anyone who says other wise is the CT nutter.
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Well save for the fact the 538 has Clinton with over a 90% chance to win California and there is still the matter of Super Delegates.
 
m52nickerson said:
Well save for the fact the 538 has Clinton with over a 90% chance to win California and there is still the matter of Super Delegates.
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Super delegates can not cast their vote until the convention. If Clinton does not have 2383 pledged delegates by the convention, it is by definition a contested convention.

If on the first ballot, all the super delegates vote for Clinton, and she becomes the nominee on the first ballot, then by definition, this was still a contested convention.

Also, that would be the same 538 that has been very wrong about 10 times in this primary right?
 
HendoRuaGOAT said:
Super delegates can not cast their vote until the convention. If Clinton does not have 2383 pledged delegates by the convention, it is by definition a contested convention.

If on the first ballot, all the super delegates vote for Clinton, and she becomes the nominee on the first ballot, then by definition, this was still a contested convention.

Also, that would be the same 538 that has been very wrong about 10 times in this primary right?
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No, if you win on the first vote it is not a contested convention. If that was the case all conventions would be contested because a candidate does not win until the convention vote.

As for 538, not not wrong. They don't predict winners and losers they assign % chances of winning.
 
m52nickerson said:
No, if you win on the first vote it is not a contested convention. If that was the case all conventions would be contested because a candidate does not win until the convention vote.

As for 538, not not wrong. They don't predict winners and losers they assign % chances of winning.
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It is if you don't have 2383 pledged delegates. If Super delegates give you the nomination, then it was contested.

Can you name the last time that we made it to a convention on the D side without a nominee having the 2383 from pledged delegates?

Was it when the Super delegates were created, and we had riots on the convention floor?
 
HendoRuaGOAT said:
Super delegates can not cast their vote until the convention. If Clinton does not have 2383 pledged delegates by the convention, it is by definition a contested convention.

If on the first ballot, all the super delegates vote for Clinton, and she becomes the nominee on the first ballot, then by definition, this was still a contested convention.

Also, that would be the same 538 that has been very wrong about 10 times in this primary right?
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What makes you think the +500 Superdelegates who are aligned with Clinton right now will somehow change and not vote for her come convention time?

Are you predicting a Bernie win?
 
SouthoftheAndes said:
What makes you think the +500 Superdelegates who are aligned with Clinton right now will somehow change and not vote for her come convention time?

Are you predicting a Bernie win?
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I think it is about 50-50 right now. It all really depends on the FBI. Her poll numbers will plummet if the FBI recommends indictment, whether the DOJ indicts or not.

I don't know how anyone thinks the super delegates will vote for Clinton if she is losing in national polls to Trump, and Bernie is beating him.
 
I think the road to victory is winning more delegates at past primaries.
 
HendoRuaGOAT said:
It is if you don't have 2383 pledged delegates. If Super delegates give you the nomination, then it was contested.

Can you name the last time that we made it to a convention on the D side without a nominee having the 2383 from pledged delegates?

Was it when the Super delegates were created, and we had riots on the convention floor?
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

2008, Obama had 1767 pledged delegates coming into the convention. Was not called contested then and still not now.
 
Formula for Sanders victory:

1. KIll Hillary Clinton

2. Defeat Donald Trump

3. Kill Donald Trump if you can not accomplish number 2.
 
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