Formula for Sanders victory?

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Unless there is a body of water at the Democratic Convention for Bernie to walk across as he enters, I think this is a *tremendous* longshot at best :(
 
Raise the cuckery of American men 600% and Sanders might win.
 
Bernie is literally disgusting for acting like he is a man of the people. And now this shmuck is pandering and getting on his knees for the votes of the "evil" SuperDelegates.

I mean lol. Bernie now needs the evil SuperDelegates to win lol. Lol at this joke


Raise the cuckery of American men 600% and Sanders might win.

Let's be honest Hillary is more womanly than Sanders wife is any day and is more of a man than Sanders could ever hope to be ideologically. A Sanders presidency would be Justin Trudeau x100 with the apologizing, and self hate.
 
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Bernie is literally disgusting for acting like he is a man of the people. And now this shmuck is pandering and getting on his knees for the votes of the "evil" SuperDelegates.

I mean lol. Bernie now needs the evil SuperDelegates to win lol. Lol at this joke

I haven't followed the whole Super Delegate talk in the media. Do you have anything to say about the guy's math in the OP link?
 
I haven't followed the whole Super Delegate talk in the media. Do you have anything to say about the guy's math in the OP link?

I don't care. That guy is a crazy conspiracy theorist and is creepy. He has way too much free time on his hands and should stop jerking it to Bernie Sanders.

Guy is a joke. No experts agree with this deranged weirdo.
 
He is 100% right in his math. This is going to a contested convention for the Dems, and anyone who says other wise is the CT nutter.

Well save for the fact the 538 has Clinton with over a 90% chance to win California and there is still the matter of Super Delegates.
 
Well save for the fact the 538 has Clinton with over a 90% chance to win California and there is still the matter of Super Delegates.

Super delegates can not cast their vote until the convention. If Clinton does not have 2383 pledged delegates by the convention, it is by definition a contested convention.

If on the first ballot, all the super delegates vote for Clinton, and she becomes the nominee on the first ballot, then by definition, this was still a contested convention.

Also, that would be the same 538 that has been very wrong about 10 times in this primary right?
 
Super delegates can not cast their vote until the convention. If Clinton does not have 2383 pledged delegates by the convention, it is by definition a contested convention.

If on the first ballot, all the super delegates vote for Clinton, and she becomes the nominee on the first ballot, then by definition, this was still a contested convention.

Also, that would be the same 538 that has been very wrong about 10 times in this primary right?

No, if you win on the first vote it is not a contested convention. If that was the case all conventions would be contested because a candidate does not win until the convention vote.

As for 538, not not wrong. They don't predict winners and losers they assign % chances of winning.
 
No, if you win on the first vote it is not a contested convention. If that was the case all conventions would be contested because a candidate does not win until the convention vote.

As for 538, not not wrong. They don't predict winners and losers they assign % chances of winning.

It is if you don't have 2383 pledged delegates. If Super delegates give you the nomination, then it was contested.

Can you name the last time that we made it to a convention on the D side without a nominee having the 2383 from pledged delegates?

Was it when the Super delegates were created, and we had riots on the convention floor?
 
Super delegates can not cast their vote until the convention. If Clinton does not have 2383 pledged delegates by the convention, it is by definition a contested convention.

If on the first ballot, all the super delegates vote for Clinton, and she becomes the nominee on the first ballot, then by definition, this was still a contested convention.

Also, that would be the same 538 that has been very wrong about 10 times in this primary right?

What makes you think the +500 Superdelegates who are aligned with Clinton right now will somehow change and not vote for her come convention time?

Are you predicting a Bernie win?
 
What makes you think the +500 Superdelegates who are aligned with Clinton right now will somehow change and not vote for her come convention time?

Are you predicting a Bernie win?

I think it is about 50-50 right now. It all really depends on the FBI. Her poll numbers will plummet if the FBI recommends indictment, whether the DOJ indicts or not.

I don't know how anyone thinks the super delegates will vote for Clinton if she is losing in national polls to Trump, and Bernie is beating him.
 
I think the road to victory is winning more delegates at past primaries.
 
It is if you don't have 2383 pledged delegates. If Super delegates give you the nomination, then it was contested.

Can you name the last time that we made it to a convention on the D side without a nominee having the 2383 from pledged delegates?

Was it when the Super delegates were created, and we had riots on the convention floor?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

2008, Obama had 1767 pledged delegates coming into the convention. Was not called contested then and still not now.
 
Formula for Sanders victory:

1. KIll Hillary Clinton

2. Defeat Donald Trump

3. Kill Donald Trump if you can not accomplish number 2.
 
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