For those who supports PEDs in MMA, do you support other drugs in MMA?

[Not A Real Fan]

What the pro-PED crowd seems to ignore is that PEDs are bad for your health.

Many are familiar with the epidemic that killed off many pro-wrestlers in their 30s and 40s back in the day but are not as familiar with the same thing happening in the bodybuilding world.

https://www.t-nation.com/steroids/big-dead-bodybuilders

But if you support PEDs, why stop there? There are other hard drugs that can help with performance. Make a fighter fearless. Dull their pain receptors.

Is it because hard drugs are icky and bad for their health? Explain that hypocrisy?

Encouraging fighters and any athlete to compromise their health by using PEDs is bullshit.

 

[Forever Young]

Steroids, diuretics, etc are no worse for your health, provided the proper professional supervision, than any of the thousands and thousands of legal supplements that pro athletes use in MMA and every other sport.

Extreme athletics in general, including Football, Pro Wrestling, MMA, what have you, is inherently dangerous to your long term health. Proper usage of drugs and supplements can limit those dangers and improve the athlete's ability to recover from injury.

That's all very different than being a crackhead. Complete false equivocation

 

[cigano]

Those who support PEDS are moronic.

Seems like they don't want the sport to actually properly be recognised and get into the mainstream.

Getting rids of PEDS 100% will always be a challenge but the UFC must try their best. Only way to be seen as legit.

War-USADA!

 

[countswagula]

I have nothing against fighters using recreational drugs of any kind. Certainly not in the moment of the competition where it might represent an immediate risk to their lives, but outside of that I couldn't give less of a shit

 

[Strange Shadows]

i think all fighters should be on meth

 

[Still your boy]

Is DMT illegal?



Jaguars and Indeginous people use it for hunting...they say it better the senses.

I mean if they use it for hunting, wouldn't be valuable for fighting?

Imagine how aware you would be, you would be like a matrix fighter in the octagon, seeing punches in slow mo.

 

[bbandit925]

Steroids, diuretics, etc are no worse for your health, provided the proper professional supervision, than any of the thousands and thousands of legal supplements that pro athletes use in MMA and every other sport.

Extreme athletics in general, including Football, Pro Wrestling, MMA, what have you, is inherently dangerous to your long term health. Proper usage of drugs and supplements can limit those dangers and improve the athlete's ability to recover from injury.

That's all very different than being a crackhead. Complete false equivocation

yeah and heroin is okay too as long as its used in moderation

 

[Luger]

It would be fun if everybody would get high on PCP before the fight

 

[Forever Young]

yeah and heroin is okay too as long as its used in moderation

IDK about heroin specifically but opioids, prescription and otherwise, have been used in moderation for clinical and recreational purposes since prehistory. Obviously it can be of benefit to some people if they aren't retarded about it.

 

[Meldawg]

yeah and heroin is okay too as long as its used in moderation

You'd be surprised.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Steroids, diuretics, etc are no worse for your health, provided the proper professional supervision, than any of the thousands and thousands of legal supplements that pro athletes use in MMA and every other sport.

Extreme athletics in general, including Football, Pro Wrestling, MMA, what have you, is inherently dangerous to your long term health. Proper usage of drugs and supplements can limit those dangers and improve the athlete's ability to recover from injury.

That's all very different than being a crackhead. Complete false equivocation

Not completely.

When faster reflexes, stronger
limbs, increased endurance
& weight cutting aids stop being
about flexing on stage & becomes
about dishing out head trauma...

The whole discussion has to
change. It's NOT like other forms
of competition. Your equivocation
is false as well.

 

[Breaking]

I don't give a shit about PEDs in most sports.

Baseball? Who gives a shit?

Cycling....seriously? Why the fuck does it matter?

MMA, boxing, football, and other contact sports? Fuck that shit. Get that shit outta there.

PEDs in these sports endanger people's long term health and their lives. It's total bullshit and some of it should be prosecutable by law.

I'm not even joking.

I don't mean stupid shit like dhea, but some of the steroids and growth hormones turn bodies into deadly weapons.

 

[$uicideboy$]

yeah and heroin is okay too as long as its used in moderation

it actually is

 

[bbandit925]

it actually is

i know it is, but the point is, who the fuck uses anything in moderation?

 

[pv3Hpv3p]

Peds I'm on the fence on, seems like its so rampant in all sports, that I'm not sure the answer is banning people for years... at the same time I guess I don't have a better solution...

As far as other drugs... as long as they perform their duties sober it's none of my business what they do in their own time.

These are grown men that make their own decisions. The self-righteous idea that they need "us" to help them make the right decisions is pretty disgusting and reeks of "holier -than-thou", nanny-state bullshit.

 

[Breaking]

I think some of you guys are missing the point. Cracking down on PEDs isn't about protecting fighters from their own bad choices (in the way that it might be for heroin, crack, etc)

It's about protecting fighters from other people's poor choices. Fighters who have the balls to not cheat are not just cheated by the juicers (as it might be with lance Armstrong or something) they are threatened and endangered by juicers.

Huge difference.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

Guys using heavy pain meds is what keeps the NFL going, but for some reason people don't seem to have a problem with it. Must be the cool uniforms and shiny helmets.

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/NFL-hit-with-suit-by-ex-players-over-painkillers-5493154.php

 

[ortizgnp]

Give bath salt to Vitor and unleash him versus the heavyweight roster in a tournament.

 

[Poser Caust]

This thread makes no fucking sense. You are saying If you are in support of PED's you should support other hard drugs... that enhance performance. If you take any drug that enhances your performance it is a PED. Pharma painkillers and recreational drugs with painkilling effects have always been considered PEDs

 

[$uicideboy$]

i know it is, but the point is, who the fuck uses anything in moderation?

lol true