For anyone that thinks Usman is above GSP already...

[Papa Doc]

You listed Hendricks and Sherk as former champions. That is incorrect, and you failed to mention Sherk being stripped of his title (that he acquired a year after fighting GSP) for pissing hot.



Colby is a former interim champion, and you didn't list him for Usman, but you wanted to list Condit for GSP. Biased double standards.

That is a solid point, lets add Colby. I agree.

9 championship wins for GSP 3 for Usman.

 

[Papa Doc]

You listed Hendricks and Sherk as former champions. That is incorrect, and you failed to mention Sherk being stripped of his title (that he acquired a year after fighting GSP) for pissing hot.



Colby is a former interim champion, and you didn't list him for Usman, but you wanted to list Condit for GSP. Biased double standards.

Sherk and Hendricks are former champions.

 

[G10]

Prime GSP superman punches and single legs Usman all day long

This.

 

[JonnyBonesPharmacist]

Let’s discuss the main fact that matters, such as who would win in an MMA contest.

I have no doubt in my mind that Usman makes easy work of GSP.

Maybe not even now

 

[DS7]

Let's put some context to those inflated ass numbers:

• GSP spent 32.14% of his entire career against only 4 people. 9 fights with a record of 7-2, 7 of those were title fights with a record of 5-2.
• Unique opponents during title reign: 8, yet only 14 out of 23 UFC fights (60.87%) were against unique opponents for GSP. Usman has had 11 unique opponents out of 15 UFC fights (78.57%)
• Victories over UFC champs for GSP: 2 over Hughes, 2 over Penn, 1 over Serra, 1 over Bisping. He has a loss to both Hughes and Serra, which is the only reason Serra was ever champ. One victory over Penn is widely seen as a robbery. Lots of repeat victories, and Hughes is always inflating all of GSP's numbers, most notably the next one:
• 438-80 combined record of UFC opponents - 120 victories (27.4% of the total) are from Matt Hughes alone.

Fuckin GSP fanatics are the absolute worst bunch of pathetic nerd trolls in Sherdog history. Fuckin hell.

I do agree Usman is not even close to surpass GSP as the WW GOAT but you're spot on about GSP fans. Gotta love the classic BS stats. Fedor fans are close seconds on this one.

 

[NikLuk]

He fought him 3 times. He had 37, 41, and 42 victories in each of their fights. This is also why GSP always scores so highly in SoS stats. Hughes is a massive outlier that single handedly increases the shit out of GSP's stats.

Oh. I didn’t realize recurring opponents are being counted multiple times. Thx.

 

[Aldo145]

Who lost more in the UFC? Goats don’t lose.

GSP only lost to champs.

 

[Fioretti]

Sherk and Hendricks are former champions.

They are now, but weren't at the time they lost to GSP. They would be categorized as "future champions". Do you not know how to multi-quote, or are you trying to up your post count by making separate replies?

That is a solid point, lets add Colby. I agree.

9 championship wins for GSP 3 for Usman.

You're also conveniently leaving out GSP's losses, and Usman's victory over RDA.

9-2 for GSP, 4-0 for Usman.

 

[Aldo145]

Let's put some context to those inflated ass numbers:

• GSP spent 32.14% of his entire career against only 4 people. 9 fights with a record of 7-2, 7 of those were title fights with a record of 5-2.
• Unique opponents during title reign: 8, yet only 14 out of 23 UFC fights (60.87%) were against unique opponents for GSP. Usman has had 11 unique opponents out of 15 UFC fights (78.57%)
• Victories over UFC champs for GSP: 2 over Hughes, 2 over Penn, 1 over Serra, 1 over Bisping. He has a loss to both Hughes and Serra, which is the only reason Serra was ever champ. One victory over Penn is widely seen as a robbery. Lots of repeat victories, and Hughes is always inflating all of GSP's numbers, most notably the next one:
• 438-80 combined record of UFC opponents - 120 victories (27.4% of the total) are from Matt Hughes alone.

Fuckin GSP fanatics are the absolute worst bunch of pathetic nerd trolls in Sherdog history. Fuckin hell.

So your gonna undercut his wins over Diaz, Shields and Condit. All great champs in other orgs. Who he all fought in a row and won.

 

[Last Falconry]

Insecurity this immense can begin to manifest itself physically after a while. Consider seeing a professional

 

[Gamer007]

37, 41, 43 - totaling 120 from Hughes alone. That's almost 28% of the total from one guy.

Keep fighting the good fight brother

 

[Joe_Armstrong]

Plus a MW belt.

 

[r-harper-1]

I’m a known GSP hater ….but saying someone else is the Goat Ww is silly

 

[NikLuk]

He fought Matt 3 times right? so it's 45 x 3

I mentioned this last year too, these statistics are #1 bs if we're being real.

45 x 3 is 135. But yeah, the current record when they fought. The other guy told me about it. I don’t know they counted the same opponent multiple times. Thx.

 

[Fioretti]

I do agree Usman is not even close to surpass GSP as the WW GOAT but you're spot on about GSP fans. Gotta love the classic BS stats. Fedor fans are close seconds on this one.

He's very close. Closer than most people give him credit for.

Usman's claim:

• He has 3x the finishes than GSP does in title defenses, in almost half as many opportunities
• He has broken GSP's record of consecutive wins in the UFC WW division
• He is one win away from tying Silva's record for most consecutive wins in the UFC (all divisions)
• He did not lose his first title shot
• He did not lose his first title defense
• He started his championship career 6-0, while GSP started his 1-2

GSP's claim:

• Cumulative title defenses
• Overall quality of opposition
• Length of reign

GSP's claims are situational, and may not be strong enough to eclipse all of Usman's claims. I think GSP edges him slightly, but another finish for Usman in his next fight already makes an extremely strong case for him to surpass GSP. With two more finishes, and Usman breaking Silva's record, I think it's a done deal without much debate.

Oh. I didn’t realize recurring opponents are being counted multiple times. Thx.

Of course they are. That's why his stats are so inflated.

GSP only lost to champs.

While technically that's true, Serra wasn't a champ until he beat GSP. Serra was unranked at WW until that fight, and was never ranked again. He finished his career on a 1-3 streak after beating GSP.

 

[nately]

Usman has a much bigger skill set and is more dominant. Dominance is a very important metric in determining the best fighter. For instance, Khabib's wins are very different from GSP's wins. Same with Usman. Usman is also better than GSP at every aspect of MMA other than fight IQ. Usman has more power, better wrestling, better striking, and a better chin.

Usman > GSP

 

[Fioretti]

So your gonna undercut his wins over Diaz, Shields and Condit. All great champs in other orgs. Who he all fought in a row and won.

What or how am I undercutting? Look at the OP. It says "Victories over UFC World Champs". I put context to it. Would you like me to elaborate even further, or did you just overlook the fact that the picture in the OP specifies UFC champs only?

 

[r-harper-1]

Plus a MW belt.

Meaningless….a win over Bisping is a win over Bisping….lots have done it …it’s not some monumental accomplishments….still a very good win considering the layoff ….but let’s keep things in check lol

 

[chinarice]

LOSSES TO MATT SERRA:

GSP - 1
USMAN - 0

Losses to Jose Caceres

GSP- 0
USMAN - 1

 

[krelianx]

Not to mention he was a two division champ, he beat the former MW Strikeforce champ, the future WW champ in Hendricks, the interim WW champ in Condit, the former WW SF champ in Diaz, the LW and former WW champ in Penn, the future LW champ in Sherk, the MW champ in Bisping, etc.

There simply is no comparison at this point.