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For all the conspiracy theorists (196 related)

Quinton Fields

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Hey guys Helwani just posted to his twitter that it was RDA and his shady manager Ali Abdelaziz who requested Herb Dean for the main event of 196, is this because RDA influenced Herb to stop the Cerrone fight and he's hoping to do the same to Conor?
 
Maybe. But he's playing with fire, because we all saw that Herb Dean stopped McGregor/Mendes fight like 3 seconds after Mendes went down and McGregor didn't even look up to Herb to get this result and the fact that the round would end like in 5 seconds was completely ignored... Yeah, Herb favours certain fighters.
 
He hopes Dean will save him from waking up speaking a different language.
 
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Maybe. But he's playing with fire, because we all saw that Herb Dean stopped McGregor/Mendes fight like 3 seconds after Mendes went down and McGregor didn't even look up to Herb to get this result and the fact that the round would end like in 5 seconds was completely ignored... Yeah, Herb favours certain fighters.
He also laughed at Conor when he was begging for a stand up in that fight.
 
Fighters can make a request for referee's and judges not to do their fights. Remember Longo/Iaquinta and the Crosby debacle.

Probably shady manager trying to make it look like they're............who knows. What does it matter.
 
Odd... Conor fans saying Herb is good for them. Apparently, RDA disagrees.
 
Fighters shouldn't be able to request the ref they want. That's just asking for trouble. I understand fighters being allowed to refuse certain refs, but they shouldn't be able to pick the ones they want.
 
Herb was pretty fair in the mendes fight, Conor was looking to be stood up and herb said "he's fighting" and let Chad continue

Plus I think the stoppage was fair, Chad was turtled and if the fight would have continued, it just would have meant more unasmwered punches.

Should the ref take into account the time of the round?
 
Well one thing we can be sure of:

Herb is clearly biased against whoever doesn't win this fight!
 
Maybe. But he's playing with fire, because we all saw that Herb Dean stopped McGregor/Mendes fight like 3 seconds after Mendes went down and McGregor didn't even look up to Herb to get this result and the fact that the round would end like in 5 seconds was completely ignored... Yeah, Herb favours certain fighters.

Take off the tinfoil hat, Mendes was done, even if Herb had let him continue it would have just been a matter of time until McGregor finished him.
 
Hey guys Helwani just posted to his twitter that it was RDA and his shady manager Ali Abdelaziz who requested Herb Dean for the main event of 196, is this because RDA influenced Herb to stop the Cerrone fight and he's hoping to do the same to Conor?
He's going to need more than Herb's help to win this fight.
 
Hey guys Helwani just posted to his twitter that it was RDA and his shady manager Ali Abdelaziz who requested Herb Dean for the main event of 196, is this because RDA influenced Herb to stop the Cerrone fight and he's hoping to do the same to Conor?
heh
You try to squash a conspiracy theory by adding one of your own.

In either case, this conspiracies look BAD and shows he is a very bad pick for this fight.
 
Cerrone didn't wanted nothing to do with that fight anymore I guarantee you that.
 
Why wouldn't they want Herb though? He's been the most consistently good ref in MMA. He's made mistakes but so has everyone.
 
Take off the tinfoil hat, Mendes was done, even if Herb had let him continue it would have just been a matter of time until McGregor finished him.

Mendes was done? There was about 5 seconds left in the round, and as soon as Herb declared it over, Chad popped up, smiled, and went over and congratulated Conor.

Not saying that Conor wouldn't of still beat him, but that was definitely a controversial call for Dean to jump in 2 seconds after Mendes went to his knees.
 
Herb was pretty fair in the mendes fight, Conor was looking to be stood up and herb said "he's fighting" and let Chad continue

Plus I think the stoppage was fair, Chad was turtled and if the fight would have continued, it just would have meant more unasmwered punches.

Should the ref take into account the time of the round?

I think Dean has become a little bit inconsistent in the last year. Remember Dillashaw and Barao fought shortly after Conor and Mendes which he reffed and Barao took a ridiculous amount of punches before it was stopped. Should have stopped Weidman and Rockhold as well.

Refs will always get scrutinized for making mistakes more than making good calls. I suppose there was a case that Conor and Mendes was for the interim title and the round should have been ended by the buzzer and not the ref.

It's a tough gig having to make those split decision calls, but I'd imagine fighters would rather the fight was stopped later than early. Unless they're blatantly knocked/choked out cold.
 
Mendes was done? There was about 5 seconds left in the round, and as soon as Herb declared it over, Chad popped up, smiled, and went over and congratulated Conor.

Not saying that Conor wouldn't of still beat him, but that was definitely a controversial call for Dean to jump in 2 seconds after Mendes went to his knees.

There have been other TKO stoppages where the loser got right up afterwards. You're clutching at straws to discredit this result.
 
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