For all the complaints about boring fighters on here, you'd think Tom would be appreciated more.

[188912345]

How hard is it for Tom to be out here demanding a rematch ASAP? Every doctor has cleared him. What's the hold up, another 4-5 YouTube videos from his dad before he's ready to ask to fight again?

Maybe because his vision is still impaired?
And it's been like 5 days since it happened?

 

[Dr Brian Pepper]

Because even tho Jones is a pos, most well adjusted people understand hes simply the GOAT, and we are lucky to be alive to have seen his run because it is was MMA is all about.

The issue is, since conor happened all the parasocial retards come on here and cry about all their shit outside the cage like its love island or something, like who gives a fuck?

I watch mma because I love the sport and I love watching people fight, its an art and the truth is Jones is just the best there is to do, and has been around and active for like almost 20 years in the UFC. While Tom has a few fights, and is already taking huge breaks in between his fights

 

[robby71]

The only reasone people hate Tom it's because of Jon Jones fans. They just love a PED cheat who beats his wife and Tom is the oposite of that. It's not at all about the fight style

 

[robby71]

Because even tho Jones is a pos, most well adjusted people understand hes simply the GOAT, and we are lucky to be alive to have seen his run because it is was MMA is all about.

The issue is, since conor happened all the parasocial retards come on here and cry about all their shit outside the cage like its love island or something, like who gives a fuck?

I watch mma because I love the sport and I love watching people fight, its an art and the truth is Jones is just the best there is to do, and has been around and active for like almost 20 years in the UFC. While Tom has a few fights, and is already taking huge breaks in between his fights

I wonder how jone would have done if he:

Didn't use PEDs
Didn't poke people in the eye every single fucking fight
and if he wasn't twice the size of his opponents

 

[pamirec]

He didn't sit out. He was iced out. What is he supposed to do when he holds the interim belt, defends it while the "Undisputed" guy refuses to unify while waiting a year to fight a retired 3 year on the shelf fire fighter and then still refuses to accept a fight to Unify but doesn't vacate? Tom was booked against Gane as soon as Jon was officially stripped...er I mean retired like he was always going to do.

Stop acting like Tom held up the HW division, that was 100% on Jon and the UFC. BTW guys who have lost a razor close first round have actually come back to win fights.

Yeah as if Tom was chilling, while the paper champ was active, fighting real contenders and shit.

 

[pamirec]

I wonder how jone would have done if he:

Didn't use PEDs
Didn't poke people in the eye every single fucking fight
and if he wasn't twice the size of his opponents

The third one is not a valid reason to shit on Jones. Not like he juiced to get long limbs. As for the first two, I agree. Hard to argue against “dickpills” and INTENTIONALLY poking his opponents in the eye. Poor Glover got poked at least three times.

 

[Young Calf Kick]

Jon defeated Gane in 2 minutes after a nut shot and 3 years of retirement.

Tom got outstruck, out sped, couldn't take him down, gassed, and quit after 4:30 with Gane. After everybody said Tom would easily beat him and he was a -400 favourite.

I dunno man, sounds like the moral victory is warranted.

Aspinall retired Jones without even fighting him. There is no moral victory.

 

[Pompey Junglist]

It's been 4 days and he's still sending his dad out to do Youtube videos demanding DQs and moving on instead of calling to rematch Gane as soon as possible.

It's fairly obvious he's shook at finding out he's not the best striker in the division, isn't the fastest in the division, can't take down a "white belt", and does in fact have dog shit cardio.

Perhaps he wants to know if and when his vision will be back to normal, before booking a rematch? Just a thought, from like, a rational universe.

 

[doggo]

At least the general opinion apart from the Jones gobblers is shifting to the foul being a foul and not Tom being a pussy.

 

[b00tysweat]

Not his fault the Champ pussied out of every call out

so Tom sat out for 18 months in his fighting prime because of another man?

LOL Jon destroyed him without even stepping foot in the cage

 

[robby71]

The third one is not a valid reason to shit on Jones. Not like he juiced to get long limbs. As for the first two, I agree. Hard to argue against “dickpills” and INTENTIONALLY poking his opponents in the eye. Poor Glover got poked at least three times.

my reasoning for the third one is because people are giving him more creddit for the dominat wins he had over smaller opponets like Machida, Vitor, Ryan Bader, Jackson, Rashad and so on.

But when he fought people his own size like: Gustoffson, Teixera, OSP, Smith, Santos, Reyes he wasn't so dominant., yet people just say. Well he still one so why does it matter how he won

And I think in the GOAT conversation it matter how you win your fights.

Like. submision win over Oliviera means more then a decision win over Oliviera if you know what I mean

 

[orca]

I wonder how jone would have done if he:

Didn't use PEDs
Didn't poke people in the eye every single fucking fight
and if he wasn't twice the size of his opponents

thats silly question
its like asking if how would gsp do if he fought in a drug tested era
like saying how would fedor do as well

you do know jones is the only fighter who both fought in that two eras
and still win

you should question that to gsp
we all saw fedor in a drug tested org

 

[Fedorgasm]

you should question that to gsp
we all saw fedor in a drug tested org

Yes, we did see Fedor in a drug tested org, like when he beat Coleman, Sylvia, and Arlovski in the USA under the athletic commission's testing.

 

[pamirec]

my reasoning for the third one is because people are giving him more creddit for the dominat wins he had over smaller opponets like Machida, Vitor, Ryan Bader, Jackson, Rashad and so on.

But when he fought people his own size like: Gustoffson, Teixera, OSP, Smith, Santos, Reyes he wasn't so dominant., yet people just say. Well he still one so why does it matter how he won

And I think in the GOAT conversation it matter how you win your fights.

Like. submision win over Oliviera means more then a decision win over Oliviera if you know what I mean

I see where you are coming from. He’ll always have an asterisk next to his name. Some people say he is so good he didn’t have to cheat. I think he’d have lost a fight or two if he didn’t cheat.

 

[humdizzle]

we are spoiled by the toughness of Jiri and Alex.

merab is going for his 4th defense this year.

tom has been pretty inactive, started getting beaten up by Gane, and then decided not to continue. The optics of that makes Jones look better. That makes Jones haters mad, and only gives more ammo to Jones fans.

 

[Tweak896]

All I have heard is Tom glazing. He's an exciting fighter and finisher. I can't hate him for that. But it feels like there are 2 different worlds people experience here. It's like their brain only see's the bad thing they don't like. Prior to the eye poke, it was atleast "90/10 Tom could be the best HW ever!". Now a larger portion is pushing back against the superman GOAT characterization of him.

It's HW and he's fast and has power. But I got shit on leading up to this fight questioning how high level his striking is, how good is his wrestling, is his BJJ really elite? The division needs someone like him, but honestly if his plan is 3 fights then quit to boxing, I can't wait for the next HW champ.

 

[Doughie99]

Seems like 90% of threads are about how boring x fighter is. Guys that just lay 'n pray their way to victory, or even strikers like Strickland are labeled boring because he doesn't finish his opponents.

And yet here we have Tom Aspinall, who has finished every single person he's faced since joining the UFC, and yet he hasn't earned enough goodwill to get a pass after an eye poke?

What does a fighter have to do to earn just a little bit of grace?

My view is its just a load of Jon Jones fanboi idiots "piling on" and trying to kick aspinall as much as possible as in their small minds Aspinall is The Enemy of their LordGod Jones.

Everyone SHOULD be having a pop at GANE as he CAUSED this entire situation.

 

[markg171]

"Involuntarily told to continue", huh? You think he shouldn't have?

Lol, keep digging into that hypocrisy.

Stipe got eyepoked by Struve and Herb refused to stop the fight for it and told him to keep fighting without any break in the action despite Stipe visibly having 1 eye closed from the blatant poke.

They're completely different scenarios than Tom's who did get his fight immediately stopped when he protested his eyepoke.

 

[markg171]

Perhaps he wants to know if and when his vision will be back to normal, before booking a rematch? Just a thought, from like, a rational universe.

There is quite literally zero proof at all his vision is affected. Every doctor has cleared him.

It's Ricky Bobby Syndrome.

 

[markg171]

This guy calls me a stalker for calling him a retard in every thread that I'm unfortunate enough to see his drivel in, all while combing others posting history.

I don't even know who you are