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FISA Abuse Memo, prediction thread (update post 120 maybe)

JSnake said:
The texts with Obama were apparently regarding the Hillary email investigation. I don't think there's any contention here that the evidence is real. The opposition has tried preventing the release of this information to the public and have even gone so far as deleting evidence to obstruct the process, as with the texts from the FBI officials.

What's happening now is a far contrast from the allegations of Russian collusion made against the Trump campaign, which were constantly reported on and hyped up for more than a year by the MSM, in spite of there being no concrete evidence provided to support the claims. In this case, the public is being given tangible evidence (as they should), whether you agree with it or not.

You can make your own subjective interpretations of it, but the people that are trying to release this information already know all of it, and are doing so in a strategic manner they feel would be most effective. If it were released all at once, important details could get swept under the rug by another big event/story in the daily news cycle or the content matter may have the effect of being too much to handle at one time, which would occlude from the whole purpose of public awareness.

Doing it gradually/carefully over a period of time has the advantage of allowing the public to digest the information and mentally prepare themselves for bigger revelations. If something is truly being misconstrued it can be legally disputed in a court of law.
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Doing a slow release of "information" without supporting context or details slowly feeds red meat to his base and allows right wing talking heads to go into damage control mode to protect the President. Any review of sensitive information will come with a report on what found and what conclusion if any it makes. This has been a coordinated attempt by the Right to destroy the reputation of the people investigating him to call into question the outcome of the Mueller investigation. As seen in the primaries and the election of 2016 Trump when attacked will return fired and flood the NEWS with what ever he thinks will make his opponent look bad regardless if it's true or not. Remember this is the same man that had the most lies in an election by a landslide.
 
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Ophydian said:
Doing a slow release of "information" without supporting context or details slowly feeds red meat to his base and allows right wing talking heads to go into damage control mode to protect the President. Any review of sensitive information will come with a report on what found and what conclusion if any it makes. This has been a coordinated attempt by the Right to destroy the reputation of the people investigating him to call into question the outcome of the Mueller investigation. As seen in the primaries and the election of 2016 Trump when attacked will return fired and flood the NEWS with what ever he thinks will make his opponent look bad regardless if it's true or not. Remember this is the same man that had the most lies in an election by a landslide.
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After a whole year of being attacked over Russian hysteria with no substantial evidence given to back it up, illegal leaks (highlighting only specific parts of conversations and phone calls), hyping/radicalizing their own base, etc... clearly, the precedent has been set that all's fair in love and war.

When concrete evidence exists to support their claims, they can release it however they want; especially if it pertains and brings to question the very investigation itself. Regardless of what implications you think it has, when the evidence shows these people to be involved in corruption it warrants their actions be viewed with skepticism and scrutiny, since these are the people that are supposed to be upholding the law.

Trump does not have the power to control what the mainstream media reports and did not have the power to control what went on in government prior to a year ago, so if he's still able to beat them in spite of these drawbacks, what does that say?
 
fonzob1 said:
You mean Assange feeding Hannity information? Why would Hannity turn away information from Assange if it was factual?
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What about the wife beater that Trump feels so badly for , any mention of him ?
 
JSnake said:
After a whole year of being attacked over Russian hysteria with no substantial evidence given to back it up, illegal leaks (highlighting only specific parts of conversations and phone calls), hyping/radicalizing their own base, etc... clearly, the precedent has been set that all's fair in love and war.

When concrete evidence exists to support their claims, they can release it however they want; especially if it pertains and brings to question the very investigation itself. Regardless of what implications you think it has, when the evidence shows these people to be involved in corruption it warrants their actions be viewed with skepticism and scrutiny, since these are the people that are supposed to be upholding the law.

Trump does not have the power to control what the mainstream media reports and did not have the power to control what went on in government prior to a year ago, so if he's still able to beat them in spite of these drawbacks, what does that say?
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The thing is, Mueller hasn’t leaked anything about what evidence he has or not hat direction his investigation is taking. It’s the MSM that is coming up with theories based on who changes lawyers or what arrests/guilty pleas have been made. Trump will s leaking information to damage the Mueller investigation using misleading information. You do not do that if you are innocent, unless you are trying to protect someone or trying to prevent information from coming out.
 
Ophydian said:
The thing is, Mueller hasn’t leaked anything about what evidence he has or not hat direction his investigation is taking. It’s the MSM that is coming up with theories based on who changes lawyers or what arrests/guilty pleas have been made. Trump will s leaking information to damage the Mueller investigation using misleading information. You do not do that if you are innocent, unless you are trying to protect someone or trying to prevent information from coming out.
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If the very investigation is fraudulent, and Trump has the evidence to prove it, then he is justified in doing so. Because if they were willing to abuse their power and inject politics into the justice system to get to this point, why would they stop now? They've dug their hole too deep for themselves already.

Trump knew of this information since he stepped into office and allowed them to destroy their own credibility with their outrageous claims which he knew held no merit for a year, made Comey perjure himself to Congress... and now he's going on the attack, instead of simply absorbing their attacks, and the opposition does not like it. Because Trump is winning and is inevitably going to win since the evidence was always on his side.

Mueller has nothing on Trump. Even the indictments revealed of lower members of his campaign had nothing to do with Russian collusion. They were probably hoping either Manafort or Flynn would bear false testimony against the president, if they bullied them enough, but it didn't work. Just as with the numerous other scandals they've tried (25th Amendment, Stormy Daniels, victims of sex harassment, etc.)

You do not accuse people of being Russian agents, traitors, "carrying water for the Kremlin", being "Putin's lapdog" on national television, without any evidence, trial or jury, if you are in fact in a position of security; it is done only to create the optics to overcompensate for that. Hoping to sway the public enough to take action based on the claims alone and start a civil war. It didn't work.
 
Did you liberals really think this was going to disappear?



They’re making fucking YouTube videos. They know.



 
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