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FISA Abuse Memo, prediction thread (update post 120 maybe)

Lol. Even the story says "likely political source". Not funded by the Hillary campaign
Irrelevant anyway, as has already been explained ad nauseam. The judge knew politics was behind the information, therefore Nunes lied.

Also, given the 400 total pages of documents used to obtain the warrant, and the fact that is was reapproved at least 3 times, there is no chance that the dossier was the main basis for giving out the warrants.

Also, even if the dossier was the only information, so what? Much of it has already been proven to be accurate. None of it has actually been debunked.

Also also, I thought that the only thing that mattered was the information? You Deplorabots may recall that argument from the election. Muh Wikileaks, muh e-mails, muh deep state.

You're a buffoon.
 
Irrelevant anyway, as has already been explained ad nauseam. The judge knew politics was behind the information, therefore Nunes lied.

Also, given the 400 total pages of documents used to obtain the warrant, and the fact that is was reapproved at least 3 times, there is no chance that the dossier was the main basis for giving out the warrants.

Also, even if the dossier was the only information, so what? Much of it has already been proven to be accurate. None of it has actually been debunked.

Also also, I thought that the only thing that mattered was the information? You Deplorabots may recall that argument from the election. Muh Wikileaks, muh e-mails, muh deep state.

You're a buffoon.

Incorrect. Nunes said the judge wasn't told who funded it. That is correct.

Saying something MIGHT BE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED is not saying something was Definitely funded by the Clinton Campaign

So thanks for posting something that confirms the judge was not told the truth
 
Irrelevant anyway, as has already been explained ad nauseam. The judge knew politics was behind the information, therefore Nunes lied.

Also, given the 400 total pages of documents used to obtain the warrant, and the fact that is was reapproved at least 3 times, there is no chance that the dossier was the main basis for giving out the warrants.

Also, even if the dossier was the only information, so what? Much of it has already been proven to be accurate. None of it has actually been debunked.

Also also, I thought that the only thing that mattered was the information? You Deplorabots may recall that argument from the election. Muh Wikileaks, muh e-mails, muh deep state.

You're a buffoon.

Do you remember what Comey said under oath about the Dossier
 
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Not really a huge assumption at all that the FBI used an unverified Dossier and hid material facts from the FISA Judge in order to get it granted. I think that's pretty hard to dispute at this point. It's also not a huge leap to think if the FISA judge had known the origin and who paid for it, and knew that it had been shopped around to various News Sources (and turned down) AND that the corroborating story was a planted story by Steele himself that he wouldn't have granted the warrant. That's precisely why (IMO) the FBI hid those details from the Court.
We're going in circles. Believe what you like.

I will say I am glad things like both parties paying for dirt on their opponents and so many high ranking officials in cahoots with foreigners are being dragged into the sunlight. Our government stinks to high heaven. I'll take the FBI over that group of useless twats any day, and I hope this investigation continues until it brings down every crook it can find.
 
Incorrect. Nunes said the judge wasn't told who funded it. That is correct.

Saying something MIGHT BE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED is not saying something was Definitely funded by the Clinton Campaign

So thanks for posting something that confirms the judge was not told the truth

Yeah. I think that's obvious to anyone who is reading the article with a clear mind. Schiff is just spinning and giving an excuse to those who need one to continue this ridiculous narrative that the Memo is a "nothing burger". It's far from it and the coming days are going to be brutal for the Dems. It's so ironic that they are getting exposed for everything they've accused the Trump campaign of. We certainly live in interesting Political times, Lol. This will be written about in text books forever.
 
We're going in circles. Believe what you like.

I will say I am glad things like both parties paying for dirt on their opponents and so many high ranking officials in cahoots with foreigners are being dragged into the sunlight. Our government stinks to high heaven. I'll take the FBI over that group of useless twats any day, and I hope this investigation continues until it brings down every crook it can find.

Fair enough sick. I'm glad that it's coming out that the FBI and DOJ have been weaponized as a political tool by the left, and I'll take the word of Andrew McCabe under oath saying the the FISA warrant wouldn't have been sought without the Dossier and bogus Yahoo story to back it up, over the word of hacks like Adam Schiff. ;)

Having said that, I'm glad ALL of this is coming on both sides. Our Govt. is corrupt and our political system is becoming broken beyond all recognition. To what extent we are only beginning to find out. So on that point we can definitely agree. I think we all want our leaders to be on the up and up and what is happening now on both sides is a disgrace.
 
Yeah. I think that's obvious to anyone who is reading the article with a clear mind. Schiff is just spinning and giving an excuse to those who need one to continue this ridiculous narrative that the Memo is a "nothing burger". It's far from it and the coming days are going to be brutal for the Dems. It's so ironic that they are getting exposed for everything they've accused the Trump campaign of. We certainly live in interesting Political times, Lol. This will be written about in text books forever.

Telling the judge portions of the evidence might be politically motivated is not telling the judge who funded it
 
Fair enough sick. I'm glad that it's coming out that the FBI and DOJ have been weaponized as a political tool by the left, and I'll take the word of Andrew McCabe under oath saying the the FISA warrant wouldn't have been sought without the Dossier and bogus Yahoo story to back it up, over the word of hacks like Adam Schiff. ;)

Having said that, I'm glad ALL of this is coming on both sides. Our Govt. is corrupt and our political system is becoming broken beyond all recognition. To what extent we are only beginning to find out. So on that point we can definitely agree. I think we all want our leaders to be on the up and up and what is happening now on both sides is a disgrace.

I'm for EVERYTHING coming out
 
Telling the judge portions of the evidence might be politically motivated is not telling the judge who funded it

Exactly, and make no mistake, Schiff knows it. He's just trying to Schiff the narrative. If those material omissions had been included in the application, the Warrant would never have been granted, and it's precisely why they felt the need to hide that information from the FISA judges. ;)
 
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I'm for EVERYTHING coming out

Me too. I'm fascinated by all of this. I think this will lead to a better Govt. for all of us eventually. Unfortunately it's going to get worse before it gets better. ;)
 
He 100% should not have messed around with Comey. Objectively from Trump's perspective, that was incredibly dumb. That firing is why the special counsel was triggered. Fair or not, that was Trump's fuck up.


I'll save you the suspense and tell that it's not fair and it's indicative of a vengeful, partisan organization weaponizing their authority.

If what you say is true then trump should fire the special counsel and everyone involved in the fisa warrant.
 
I'll save you the suspense and tell that it's not fair and it's indicative of a vengeful, partisan organization weaponizing their authority.

If what you say is true then trump should fire the special counsel and everyone involved in the fisa warrant.

Politically, it's suicide to take the steps to fire Mueller. I hope he fires Rosenstein and inserts someone who actually says they will fire Mueller...just for the shit show that will ensue.
 
Politically, it's suicide to take the steps to fire Mueller. I hope he fires Rosenstein and inserts someone who actually says they will fire Mueller...just for the shit show that will ensue.


Maybe it's not strategic but it would be the right thing to do. Odds are he wouldn't be impeached given the current make up in Congress
 
That's not what I said at all. And I certainly never said they get approved on the first try...I actually said that doesn't matter, what matters is that it gets approved.

It seems to me you have your mind made up so carry on. The truth will come out in the end and there are few people as universally respected as Bob Mueller.


Are you saying that the first few denials don't count in the 99.9% statistic if they eventually get approved?

If you are saying that I'd like a source



And you did say that they throw the shit together quick. .. That they didn't compile it, right because they are in such a hurry. ....
 
Maybe it's not strategic but it would be the right thing to do. Odds are he wouldn't be impeached given the current make up in Congress
If mueller has an impeachable case against Trump, he will wait until after the mid term to avoid any republican denialism if possible. But he may have no need for that if the evidence is sufficiently damning to the point where it would be impossible for Republicans to deny.
 
Are you saying that the first few denials don't count in the 99.9% statistic if they eventually get approved?

If you are saying that I'd like a source



And you did say that they throw the shit together quick. .. That they didn't compile it, right because they are in such a hurry. ....
I didn't say, as you imply, that they throw info together haphazardly.

I'm not your dad, you can Google sources just like me.
 
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