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Elections First Presidential Debate Discussion: 9/26/16

Who won the debate?

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Well looks like Trump is still undefeated in debates. He's beaten Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, and now Hillary Clinton. And he's done it with no experience and by breaking all the rules.

Truly historic presidential run.
 
Overpressure said:
Man, it's not even... debatable. He interrupted, whined, made faces, rambled, replied to questions that weren't asked, and even managed to embiggen us all with a word that doesn't exist.
Hillary stayed on point and won by any metric used to critique debates.
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hes whined, made faces, interrupted etc since day one, and now hes the nominee and is doing very well. if you think that hurts him i dont know what to tell you other than you havent been paying attention.

if it didnt hurt him in the previous 10 debates why would it now? This is what people expect from Trump.

hilary stayed on point aka hilary stuck to rehearsed lines and petty attacks / blatant lies and its pretty easy to see through her act at this point. a lof of talk but no real substance to any of it.

trump may not be as eloquent of a speaker but he commands the room and his words carry weight.

do you think anything hilary said damaged trumps image? I dont..

however, trump got hilary to apologize for deleting emails, and trump jumped on her after she called it a mistake, and explained how it was deliberate.

also the whole part about her having her whole life to do the things she claims she will do was gold.

explaining how shes had 10 years to stop isis and how they were basically nothing and flourished in to this giant terror organization under hilarys watch. gold.

hilary just brought out the same old attacks .. racism etc.. the whole attacking his business angle hurts her more than him imo.

i dont beleive shes as dumb as she acts about business, but i think shes using these silly arguments because shes trying to trick lesser educated people in to believing hes a bad businessman.

filing for bankruptcy, having a tax exempt business, telling him to stop producing in china and come to america etc.. anyone who knows even a little about business knows there is no substance to anything she says about business. she is either playing dumb or truly knows nothing.

i laughed when she brought up the tax exemption on the business and he said "that makes me smart", because it was funny and 100% true. you cant fault him for using laws to run a business.

nothing hilary said made an impact that people will remember imo
 
Hillary had some good populist talking points, taxing the wealthy, stand against for profit prisons, affordable higher education, Trump totally lost me when he started on his spiel about Reagonomics. He needs to stick with his bread and butter populist message (you can bash Obamacare from the left), he big up'd universal healthcare in a republican primary for gods sake, stop trying to pander to your base in the damn general election debate Trump!
 
Seano said:
It was sort of like when Matt Lindland KO'd himself against David Terrell. Terrell really didn't do shit but he got the W because Matt fucked up.

Trump was unprepared and unless he dazzles in the next debates, he may have blown the election last night.
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I agree with your post, but I think you meant when Lindland knocked himself out at UFC 43, versus Falaniko Vitale. They had an immediate rematch at UFC 45, in which Matt won via submission due to strikes.

David Terrell did knock Matt out, viciously at UFC 49, however. Probably Terrell's best win, before he was shut down by Evan Tanner [RIP].
 
Trump got raped so badly last night, I'm surprised Hillary hasn't tried to cover it up yet.
 
VroomyJeeps said:
hes whined, made faces, interrupted etc since day one, and now hes the nominee and is doing very well. if you think that hurts him i dont know what to tell you other than you havent been paying attention.

if it didnt hurt him in the previous 10 debates why would it now? This is what people expect from Trump.

hilary stayed on point aka hilary stuck to rehearsed lines and petty attacks / blatant lies and its pretty easy to see through her act at this point. a lof of talk but no real substance to any of it.

trump may not be as eloquent of a speaker but he commands the room and his words carry weight.

do you think anything hilary said damaged trumps image? I dont..

however, trump got hilary to apologize for deleting emails, and trump jumped on her after she called it a mistake, and explained how it was deliberate.

also the whole part about her having her whole life to do the things she claims she will do was gold.

explaining how shes had 10 years to stop isis and how they were basically nothing and flourished in to this giant terror organization under hilarys watch. gold.

hilary just brought out the same old attacks .. racism etc.. the whole attacking his business angle hurts her more than him imo.

i dont beleive shes as dumb as she acts about business, but i think shes using these silly arguments because shes trying to trick lesser educated people in to believing hes a bad businessman.

filing for bankruptcy, having a tax exempt business, telling him to stop producing in china and come to america etc.. anyone who knows even a little about business knows there is no substance to anything she says about business. she is either playing dumb or truly knows nothing.

i laughed when she brought up the tax exemption on the business and he said "that makes me smart", because it was funny and 100% true. you cant fault him for using laws to run a business.

nothing hilary said made an impact that people will remember imo
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The curve you grade the candidates on is laughable.
 
klnOmega said:
Holy fuck, there was a yellow arrow sticking out of her back!? How did no one notice?
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In that same tweet line, the original tweeter confirms it was a mic pack for their lapel mics, Trump had one also. Clickbait tweet aimed at people who are hoping for Clinton nonsense.
 
Mainez said:
In that same tweet line, the original tweeter confirms it was a mic pack for their lapel mics, Trump had one also. Clickbait tweet aimed at people who are hoping for Clinton nonsense.
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What kind of mic pack looks like a giant yellow arrow?
 
Lmao at trumptards trying to convince themselves he won when the betting odds have flipped 10% in Clinton's favor like over the course of only 12 hours since the debate lmao.

Money is pouring in on clinton after she wrecked him.
 
South Park had it right. It is like choosing between a Giant Douche and a Shit Sandwich.

This is where partisan politics has gotten us, America.

It seems to me that most people are voting for one candidate, simply to keep the other candidate out of office. "I'm voting for Clinton, because I don't want Trump as President!" "I'm voting Trump, because I don't want Clinton as President!"

This is one election where voters who choose neither candidate should be counted. A No-Vote as a vote, if you will.
 
Lol at Trump this morning defending his comments about that Ms. Universe winner by saying well she gained a lot of weight.
 
VroomyJeeps said:
hilary didnt do well. she has no charisma and everything she said sounded scripted and fake. she might as well have been reading off a notepad.

her attacks on trump really didnt have much substance and they were not big issues. nobody cares that trump used laws to his advantage to file for bankruptcy etc.

everytime she tries to bring up trumps business she looks dumb, because she doesnt seem to understand how business works.

what did hilary say that really stuck?? nothing.. She tried the same attacks that havent really worked up until this point.

trump may not have had his best night, but he did a good job painting a picture of hilary as someone who has had many many years to do all the things she claims she will do, and has never made any progress, and infact things are worse now.

he basically told everyone how hilary helped created isis and how theyve expanded so much under her leadership.

i think that really hurt clinton.

clinton had some moments but nothing that really caused any real damage.

What you call running circles i call scripted bs mixed with lies and lacking substance.

Trump comes off much more authentic.

Trump 29-28
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I mean you can barely put together a readable post, so I don't know why you think anyone would take you seriously. Learn some formatting for fucks sake. A couple tips.... The shift key capitalizes letters for you to start off sentences. You don't have to make a new paragraph for each sentence. Hillary Clinton also has two l's in her name. It's HILLARY, not HILARY. You can't even spell her name right, so why the fuck would anyone think you know what you're talking about?

Trump comes across as more authentic? That's funny, because to me he comes across as a piece of shit who can't be trusted. He's authentically a bad person. He's authentically an asshole. He's authentically a racist. He's authentically sexist. He's authentically ignorant of the facts. He says whatever he feels like whether it's true or not, and yes, it matters when someone with a load of wealth abuses bankruptcy laws to default on their debts and not pay people money they are owed. You can't do that in government. If you want a businessman as a leader, there are plenty who haven't filed bankruptcy and aren't racist liars.

Trump didn't have his best night because he was actually forced to move beyond his stupid talking points. "We aren't winning anymore" and "Trust me, I know more than they do" doesn't cut it. It's easy to make soundbites about how you're the guy to make things great again, but when someone forces him to actually stand and explain his ideas in detail, he fails to do so. He has absolutely no idea how to run this country and he has no idea how international politics works. This man flat out lies to get votes and pretends like it never happened later. Just like the stupid birther thing. He played that bullshit for long as possible, now he acts like he didn't go along with a racist conspiracy for years. He pulls this shit with everything. If I have to listen to him say "Believe me, I know" one more fucking time I'm going to go crazy. No Trump, you don't fucking know. You've been too busy ripping off the construction industry for the last few decades to know a damned thing.

Since when is having a script a bad thing? It's scripted because it's been thought over and reviewed to make sure it will work. You don't just come up with shit on the fly when you're in charge of America. You plan things and make sure the plan will work before it's brought forward. Hillary Clinton has plans and can detail exactly what she wants to do.

If you want a complete moron bumbling through 4 years of the Presidency, Trump is your man I guess.

klnOmega said:
Treason is what the corrupt politicians like Hillary and DWS are committing when they subvert the democratic process. Someone pointing it out to us is anti-treason in my opinion.

If you want to live blind and deaf and never know what happens behind the curtain, thats cool too, I guess...you sound like the cuck who gets mad at your friend who tells you your wife is cheating, instead of getting mad at wife your for cheating.
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No, treason is asking foreign nations to attack our country and our leaders. Hillary and the DWS just subvert the democratic process now? What fantasy world do you live in? They have been operating inside the boundaries that everyone else in politics operate inside of. The democrats are no worse than the republicans when it comes to subverting the process.

That is the dumbest fucking analogy I've seen in this thread by the way. I get what's going on behind the curtain and it's a lot better option that Donald Trump getting four years to help his rich buddies out.
 
Trump didn't do so well last night. He basically helped Clinton last night with his blustering and chest thumping and talking over her
 
DevilsLettuce said:
Trump wants Russia to hack into our government's computers. That is treason. He should be in Gitmo.
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Where is your proof for it ?He hasnt done anything yet! And Trump never said that , in fact he agreed with Hillary in that the US should be better and ahead of everybody else.
And for the record im not a Trump supporter.
But we do have proof that Hillary is a liar and a traitor, and if you look up what happened with Extortion 17 and the Benghazi scandals you will understand why Hillary can never be the President. Because you are clearly a Hillary supporter im sure that you dont know what happened in the Extortion 17 and Benghazi incidents.
Cause if you did , im sure you would agree that Hillary should be in jail for it.
 
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