Elections First Presidential Debate Discussion: 9/26/16

[Aegon Spengler]

If every country isn't paying their share into NATO, and the U.S. is paying most of it, then the natural conclusion is that we are wasting money.

And NO, he did not say Nuclear war is on the table, what does that even mean? The point he made is that no U.S. military capability is taken off the table as a potential option. That was the point.

He didn't specifically state that nuclear war as a defensive measure or as a deterrent was what he was referring too. He just said "I'm not taking anything off the table regarding nuclear weapons" - which, when referring to nuclear weapons, also means a first strike. Being perfectly clear on what he meant by "nothing off the table" was utterly unimportant to him, and isn't important to his supporters, which is very telling of their mindset.

 

[Fawlty]

It's funny watching libs try to make this an issue. What does this "birther" shit have to do with anything? It's completely irrelevant.

America is totally fucked.

It's relevant because Trump very publicly lied for many years about the birther issue. Hillary's public lies are an issue too. Liars get checked.

 

[jefferz]

28-28 ITS A DRAW!

Cecil Peoples scores it 30-27 for Dewey.

 

[Dalarna3]

Guys, guys, guys ... does this mean the wall isn't getting built?

 

[PolishHeadlock]

Of course he has. Good for his bottom line and investors first and foremost I'm betting.

How many boards of kicked him out of power of his own companies?

 

[llperez22]

basically donald said I'm a business man and recent government in all forms has let us down and Hillary had very few counters to argue any of the points he made so he won some votes there. However he just didn't present enough of his own ideas. It was all Hilary sucks and I'm a business man so just trust me.

Hillary was very specific in details and did a good job attacking trumps character through past transgressions, but also did a piss poor job defending herself from a lot of Donald's attacks on her political portfolio.

 

[QuitYourCrying]

So he was before it before he was against it ?

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/every-position-donald-trump-iraq

Mother Jones? Really, guy?

 

[10mm]

Hillary didn't have to say anything. Trump cut his own throat.
Edit: why would I be wasting my precious time tweeting about both of these morons? Unless they are going to hit each other.

 

[COTUR1@43]

It's funny watching libs try to make this an issue. What does this "birther" shit have to do with anything? It's completely irrelevant.

America is totally fucked.

Part of the whole race segment. Standard Dem playbook.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I don't know what you're talking about, but I know what I heard. Trump supporters hear everything he says and it somehow goes through this rosy filter, on the other end of the filter it was all nice and everyone else just heard him wrong.

dude, it was one of the more coherent and sensible things Trump said all night. The topic was Obama's push for No First Usage policy -- which is something his cabinet and our allies have strongly disagreed with it - especially SK and Japan which are dependent on a first strike option from the west in the advent the NK goes completely rouge. So, nuclear usage being on the table is something that our allies and generally, the entire US think tank is in support of

http://www.wsj.com/articles/no-firs...ed-by-u-s-cabinet-officials-allies-1471042014

 

[Sjb1888]

While that's true, and it's true the questions were definitely skewed in Hillary's favor, Trump handled it poorly.

They were skewed in her favour because the facts are also in her favour.

Trumps lunacy is finally catching up to him, would love to see what Obama would do to Trump in a debate...

It would be be the political equivalent of the Conor vs Aldo fight.

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

Wow

 

[Strychnine]

I will argue this from the black communities POV. If I was black, I would vote for Trump, not because I think Trump would help the black community, but because the left gives the black community lip service.

Voting for Trump will get the Dems to start doing their job again, and fear the people, more then their lost campaign funds.

My choice is Turd Sandwich, or Giant Douche. I am voting Giant Douche, in hopes that next time my choice will be Giant Douche or Human Being.

I'll field this one, and yes I'm a Black dude.

Of course I can't speak for the entire Black community but... Black people won't be voting for Mr. Trump because we're all not $hithouse-rat insane.

But that's just me.

 

[ucunc156]

Good start for trump but thats about it. He looked like a complete jackass with taxes and sticking to trickle down. He was completely out of his element on the FP part (the last 45 minutes basically).The birtherism stuff and housing stuff was awkward and a bad look for him as well. Clinton didn't even cough or chug water or anything like that. Solid beatdown by her after a rough start.

Admittedly, they never really asked clinton any of the tougher questions, but trump also failed to capitalize on several things. Then again so did hillary imo. She should have baited him to calling bill out on infidelity. It would have been a nail in the coffin.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

What does Trump's 10 year old computer wiz (who somehow had something to do with a discussion of international cyberterrorism) think though? Trump with the ultimate cool story bro of all time!

 

[Fawlty]

yeah but as we see, he quickly gassed, he just doesn't have that much knowledge on policy, politics and statistic.

he need to put the pressure on Clinton and make this debate less about him and his policy


i think you knew trump has almost 0 knowledge on policy and most of the things he said is how to make America great again.

He's good at venting resentment, and attacking policy positions (whether logically or illogically). I'd look to those kinds of tactics plus laying out 3 policies of his own, even if Hillary hits him back there a bit.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Putin shouldn't be " worked with " he should be isolated as much as possible.

Why isolated, and to what end?

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Also I am still laughing about Trump being pissy that Hillary is using attack adds.

Such alpha behavior.

I know right. He's so thin skinned and can attack everyone all day and call them names but Hillarys attack adds weren't nice. Thin skin bully.

 

[UL]

Jon Jones tweeted that he'll mow down trump

But deleted it seconds later

And CM punk said he'll happily take on hilary clinton as his second opponent

That's still live on twitter

 

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