first muay thai smoker

[ironkhan57]

I think this is one of the easiest yet very effective defense against punches.

Obviously you should also learn other forms of defense but they take a bit longer to master because you will need good timing and distance control, which comes with time . Like blocking/dodging and countering with your own punch. Or teeping him away when he tries to punch you. Or countering punches with a mid kick or kick to the arms. All great techniques that dont require you to run and lose your opportunity to counter with your own attack.

ok my instructor taught me this clinch entry but i haven't been able to use it, i should also work on my teep, if it were a fight with judges and an official referee, he would've won because of his control and how he was pushing me back with his teep, i'm going to try and work on my teeo my footwork and my clinch, even though i requested my instructor to help me with the clinch and he wouldn't do it.

 

[Kanka]

ok my instructor taught me this clinch entry but i haven't been able to use it, i should also work on my teep, if it were a fight with judges and an official referee, he would've won because of his control and how he was pushing me back with his teep, i'm going to try and work on my teeo my footwork and my clinch, even though i requested my instructor to help me with the clinch and he wouldn't do it.

You could try drilling it with some other guy lightly. Basicly just extend your arm like that and cover your face with the other one and go inside and grab his neck. The extended arm is basicly blocking his punches aswell.

I just feel like the clinch as punching defense is very often overlooked in western gyms although its very effective.

 

[ironkhan57]

i definitely need to work on my teep as well and getting in the reach and clinching. i'll try to drill the technique. i think what i need also is to use my footwork in the first round my footwork was good, my movement was good but i wasn't doing too well though.

 

[Kanka]

At this point i wold focus more on keeping a good stance with good relaxed posture. Use your footwork to manage distance more than anything else. Work on pivoting to create good angles rather than moving in circles. It's harder to block kicks if you're jumping around.

 

[ironkhan57]

At this point i wold focus more on keeping a good stance with good relaxed posture. Use your footwork to manage distance more than anything else. Work on pivoting to create good angles rather than moving in circles. It's harder to block kicks if you're jumping around.

was my stance not good in my fight, thats the stance i use for sparring? should i be using a traditional muay stance? i use more of a dutch muay thai stance.

 

[Kanka]

was my stance not good in my fight, thats the stance i use for sparring? should i be using a traditional muay stance? i use more of a dutch muay thai stance.

Well i'm biased i prefer the thai way but if that style suits you better you should probably go with it. It's more important to always be well balanced and relaxed.

 

[j123]

was my stance not good in my fight, thats the stance i use for sparring? should i be using a traditional muay stance? i use more of a dutch muay thai stance.

Up to you, I adjust depending, you don't have to keep only 1 stance. In MMA I'm more dutch (50-50), and muay thai I'm more back legged heavy; However, when I strike I shift to 80:20 lead leg.

 

[ironkhan57]

Well i'm biased i prefer the thai way but if that style suits you better you should probably go with it. It's more important to always be well balanced and relaxed.

Up to you, I adjust depending, you don't have to keep only 1 stance. In MMA I'm more dutch (50-50), and muay thai I'm more back legged heavy; However, when I strike I shift to 80:20 lead leg.

yeah the dutch style really suits me, i just feel it gives me more hands, my instructor that came after my old instructor left taught me that stance and i just been using it for a while now. but the other guy was more of a traditional thai fighter. i mean i'll play around with the stances and see what works for me i use to use a traditional thai stance because my old instructor was a traditional thai fighter. should i shadowbox first with them a few times before using the thai stance in sparring?

 

[j123]

yeah the dutch style really suits me, i just feel it gives me more hands, my instructor that came after my old instructor left taught me that stance and i just been using it for a while now. but the other guy was more of a traditional thai fighter. i mean i'll play around with the stances and see what works for me i use to use a traditional thai stance because my old instructor was a traditional thai fighter. should i shadowbox first with them a few times before using the thai stance in sparring?

You should always shadow box with new material regardless. Whatever stance you take, just make sure you have good balance, and can move decently without losing balance. There's no point in keeping a stance if you're standing like you're on a tightrope.

I find for myself, 50-50 is harder to throw teeps, with the traditional stance, they fire off easily. Same with checking

You should be fine in sparring, if you're not used to it, you'll go back to your regular stance rather quickly.

 

[ironkhan57]

You should always shadow box with new material regardless. Whatever stance you take, just make sure you have good balance, and can move decently without losing balance. There's no point in keeping a stance if you're standing like you're on a tightrope.

I find for myself, 50-50 is harder to throw teeps, with the traditional stance, they fire off easily. Same with checking

You should be fine in sparring, if you're not used to it, you'll go back to your regular stance rather quickly.

i've been sparring in a dutch muay thai stance for like 6 months really. my old instructor left the gym after christmas. and when my new instructor came along he says the stance he teaches us is more for mma, but it looks more like a dutch muay thai stance to me. i want to beable to throw teeps and knees really, and i need a stance where i can use the clinch more, both stances allow me to use the clinch but the dutch muay thai stance that i have only lets me use when i'm in close range. i'll play around with the stances, and i'll work on my teeps and my clinch, and i'll have a friend in my gym help me drill that clinch entry.

 

[j123]

i've been sparring in a dutch muay thai stance for like 6 months really. my old instructor left the gym after christmas. and when my new instructor came along he says the stance he teaches us is more for mma, but it looks more like a dutch muay thai stance to me. i want to beable to throw teeps and knees really, and i need a stance where i can use the clinch more, both stances allow me to use the clinch but the dutch muay thai stance that i have only lets me use when i'm in close range. i'll play around with the stances, and i'll work on my teeps and my clinch, and i'll have a friend in my gym help me drill that clinch entry.

Its better for sprawls, trying to sprawl with heavy back leg stance is a nightmare, and takes longer than a 50-50 stance. I don't think any stance limits you from clinching, when in the clinch you have to do things differently there anyways.

 

[ironkhan57]

Its better for sprawls, trying to sprawl with heavy back leg stance is a nightmare, and takes longer than a 50-50 stance. I don't think any stance limits you from clinching, when in the clinch you have to do things differently there anyways.

ok, i train again tomorrow, if i don't have work which i usually do, i'll practice some footwork with different stances, tomorrow i'm going to my other gym again after 3 weeks, i should beable to practice some of my muay thai, but i mainly go to that gym to do bjj. if i don't have my virtual schooling teacher coming tomorrow i will go to my other gym to train. and work on some stuff.

 

[Kanka]

It's a myth that back leg heavy would be typical thai style. There are thai fighters that fight like that but it's not the norm. Thai style is more 50-50 and hands relaxed at eye level as opposed to glued to to the chin or forehead.

Are you trying to get into mma later?

 

[ironkhan57]

It's a myth that back leg heavy would be typical thai style. There are thai fighters that fight like that but it's not the norm. Thai style is more 50-50 and hands relaxed at eye level as opposed to glued to to the chin or forehead.

Are you trying to get into mma later?

yes i am, in like a year or so. i train bjj at one other gym but i haven't been their in 3 weeks because i was focusing on my muay thai fir the smoker.

 

[ironkhan57]

@j123 are you a pro fighter or an amatuer? i only ask because you seem really knowledgable on muay thai.

 

[j123]

@j123 are you a pro fighter or an amatuer? i only ask because you seem really knowledgable on muay thai.

I'm ammy

 

[NidNoi]

i've been sparring in a dutch muay thai stance for like 6 months really.

It is called "dutch kickboxing" , not dutch muay thai.

 

[ironkhan57]

It is called "dutch kickboxing" , not dutch muay thai.

1 of my instructors calls it dutch muay thai.