First Cousin Marriage In Islam - Commonplace, As Muhammad (Then Ali and Umar); Almost Half Inbred:

[dissolved]

So, my Shia-Muslim co-worker who recently threatened to shoot everyone at my workplace is the product of two first cousins marrying. He was readying himself to go back to the Middle East and finalize the marriage to his first cousin before bringing her to North America as his wife. Further, as is the norm, both sets of parents were highly involved in the arranging of this marriage.

Does it not make you wonder now why so many Muslims living in North America go back to the Middle East to marry?

The "prophet" of Islam (Muhammad) married his cousins, as did Ali (caliph in the Shia strain of sects), and as did Umar (caliph in the Sunni strain of sects) . . .

Yet another perfect contribution from the religion of subjugation, confusion, and never-ending strife and violence coming The West's/Great Satan's way. Another dirty little secret that you seldom hear about.

I'll use WikiIslam to source but will follow up with "less-biased" sources to shut up the Islamic-apologists in here:

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Cousin_Marriage_in_Islam#History

Due to the actions of Prophet Muhammad and the Rightly-Guided Caliphs, marriage between cousins is explicitly allowed and even encouraged in Islam. The Qur'an itself does not discourage or forbid this practice in any way. In fact it implicitly allows it, as seen in chapter 4 verse 23:

So everyone besides these relatives named can be married. Such marriages in Muslim majority countries are often preferred and even encouraged in some regions. This is in contrast with China, India. most of the United States and some other nations where cousin-marriage is against the law and regarded as incest.

Even though there is some debate on this issue, scientists tend to agree it is genetically unhealthy. There are other problems with cousin marriages. According to the Hanafi school of legists, a man may give his daughter in marriage to his brother's son without her consent. This goes against free will which results in unhappy marriages.

Muhammad[edit]
Prophet Muhammad himself married cousins, as he did with Zaynab bint Jahsh, who was not only the daughter of Umaimah bint Abd al-Muttalib, one of his father's sisters,[1] but was also divorced from a marriage with Muhammad's adopted son, Zayd ibn Haritha. It was this last issue that caused the most controversy, with traditional Arab norms at the time being opposed, though not the Qur'an (Sura Al-Ahzab 33:37).[2]

According to Ibn Sa'd, after Zaynab's marriage to his adopted son Zayd, Muhammad went to visit him, but instead found a hastily clad Zaynab. Though he did not enter the house, the sight of her pleased him. Tabari states that Zaynab was only wearing a single slip, and the wind pushed away a curtain when Muhammad entered, revealing her "uncovered." Thereafter Zayd no longer found her attractive and thought of proposing divorce, but Muhammad told him to keep her. Eventually, however, Zayd did divorce her.

Ali[edit]
Muhammad also allowed the marriage of his daughter, Fatimah, to his cousin, Ali ibn Abi Talib, who would later go on to become the fourth Rightly-guided Caliph of Islam.

Umar[edit]
The second Caliph, Umar ibn al-Khattab, also married his cousin, Atikah bint Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl.

In Pakistan, where there has been cousin marriage for generations, and according to professor Anne-Marie Nybo Andersen from South Danish University, the current rate is 70%,[5] one study estimated infant mortality at 12.7 percent for married double first cousins, 7.9 percent for first cousins, 9.2 percent for first cousins once removed/double second cousins, 6.9 percent for second cousins, and 5.1 percent among non-consanguineous progeny. Among double first cousin progeny, 41.2 percent of pre-reproductive deaths were associated with the expression of detrimental recessive genes, with equivalent values of 26.0, 14.9, and 8.1 percent for first cousins, first cousins once removed/double second cousins, and second cousins respectively.

A BBC report discussed Pakistanis in the United Kingdom, 55% of whom marry a first cousin. Given the high rate of such marriages, many children come from repeat generations of first-cousin marriages. The report states that these children are 13 times more likely than the general population to produce children with genetic disorders, and one in ten children of first-cousin marriages in Birmingham either dies in infancy or develops a serious disability.[6]

The BBC also states that Pakistani-Britons, who account for some 3% of all births in the UK, produce "just under a third" of all British children with genetic illnesses. Published studies show that mean perinatal mortality in the Pakistani community of 15.7 per thousand significantly exceeds that in the indigenous population and all other ethnic groups in Britain. Congenital anomalies account for 41 percent of all British Pakistani infant deaths.[7][8][9][10]

Worldwide, it has been estimated that almost half of all Muslims are inbred:

A rough estimate shows that close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred: In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called "consanguinity") and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent.[11]

Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen.[12][13]
The British geneticist, Professor Steve Jones, giving The John Maddox Lecture at the 2011 Hay Festival had stated in relation to Muslim inbreeding, "It is common in the Islamic world to marry your brother’s daughter, which is actually [genetically] closer than marrying your cousin."

Islamic website, IslamToday, confirms cousin-marriage's "valid" place in Islam:

http://en.islamtoday.net/node/1265

We hope that you can see that there is no basis for disputing the issue of a Muslim marrying his first cousin. It is established by the Qur’ân, the Sunnah, the practice of the Companions including the Rightly Guided Caliphs, and the consensus of the Muslim Ummah.

And, from an older MailOnline article (2011 - I'm curious if this article would be written today):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mmunities-putting-hundreds-children-risk.html

Sadly, the facts speak for themselves. British Pakistanis, half of whom marry a first cousin (a figure that is universally agreed), are 13 times more likely to produce children with genetic disorders than the general population, according to Government-sponsored research.

Yet another reason to oppose this ideological disease before the rest of the world looks like the conflict-riddled Middle East and North Africa (Muslim majorities):

http://www.cfr.org/peace-conflict-a...!/?cid=otr-marketing_url-sunni_shia_infoguide

 

[Bukowski82]

"My wife called me a pedophile. Pretty big word for a nine year old..."

-Muhammad

 

[Bukowski82]

And why does this not surprise me at all...

 

[dissolved]

And why does this not surprise me at all...

We (The West) are being willfully ignorant of this ideological disease at every turn. Who's going to be the leader that stands up and opposes it? So far It's only Trump that seems to even have a partial clue. It's unbelievable.

 

[Bukowski82]

We (The West) are being willfully ignorant of this ideological disease at every turn. Who's going to be the leader that stands up and opposes it? So far It's only Trump that seems to even have a partial clue. It's unbelievable.

It really is. And what's more, Liberals really need to pull their head out of their ass on this issue. I'm very Liberal and I've been called all sorts of names for speaking out against the very clear threat of this religion. This has nothing to do with party lines. We are all in this together, Liberal or Conservative. This is a major threat. The world is on fire right now because of Islam and it's not just going to put itself out...

 

[dissolved]

It really is. And what's more, Liberals really need to pull their head out of their ass on this issue. I'm very Liberal and I've been called all sorts of names for speaking out against the very clear threat of this religion. This has nothing to do with party lines. We are all in this together, Liberal or Conservative. This is a major threat. The world is on fire right now because of Islam and it's not just going to put itself out...

You should read the CFR article (the last link I provided). It's a very good expose on the confusion and sectarian violence occurring through most of the Middle East and even North Africa. A map about 3/4 of the way through gives a good visual on the conflict areas.

Quite literally, the endless violent struggle is coming to North America with each Islamic immigrant and each home-grown Islamic birth.

And to be honest the Islamic violence (sectarian and otherwise) makes pale any other religion's violent contributions.

 

[dissolved]

Also, I can't help but think how genetic problems can even affect the mental state (anger/violence propensities) in Islam.

 

[LionExMachina]

Hold on a sec, he threatened to shoot up your workplace?

 

[threelions]

Not surprising there's a huge amount of mentally disabled children in the British Pakistani community it's well known that it costs a shit ton for care each year but people get shat on when they comment that people need to be educated about the issues of marrying family because "racism."

 

[dissolved]

Hold on a sec, he threatened to shoot up your workplace?

Yes. I don't know what the latest is as I'm on vacation. But I have to go in for an HR briefing on Monday. So I don't know if the guy has been canned or if he's been sent for mental illness therapy/counselling/stress leave or what. He's a landed immigrant but not a citizen yet so not sure if he'll be deported. Quite the trickle-down. I'll know more soon.

 

[dissolved]

And I'm being a bit vague about that situation because I have to be.

 

[silicavaginitis]

Islam gonna Islam....

 

[ShinkanPo]

Yes. I don't know what the latest is as I'm on vacation. But I have to go in for an HR briefing on Monday. So I don't know if the guy has been canned or if he's been sent for mental illness therapy/counselling/stress leave or what. He's a landed immigrant but not a citizen yet so not sure if he'll be deported. Quite the trickle-down. I'll know more soon.

Jesus Christ deport him now for Christ sake this could be another San Bernardino.


If they just fire him from the job this may just trigger him further abd return to your work place for revenge.


Its really disturbing when a co worker makes threats like that.

 

[ShinkanPo]

It really is. And what's more, Liberals really need to pull their head out of their ass on this issue. I'm very Liberal and I've been called all sorts of names for speaking out against the very clear threat of this religion. This has nothing to do with party lines. We are all in this together, Liberal or Conservative. This is a major threat. The world is on fire right now because of Islam and it's not just going to put itself out...

The spread of Islam is disturbing.

Like right now I am getting tons of pop ups and spam about how to Join Islam and I am sick of hearing their Azan in my neighborhood that howling is gross.

 

[dissolved]

Jesus Christ deport him now for Christ sake this could be another San Bernardino.


If they just fire him from the job this may just trigger him further abd return to your work place for revenge.


Its really disturbing when a co worker makes threats like that.

I have my fingers crossed. I have to say it'd be difficult going back to work if the police and immigration isn't involved completely.

 

[ShinkanPo]

I have my fingers crossed. I have to say it'd be difficult going back to work if the police and immigration isn't involved completely.

I use to make fun of looney Muslims all the time and post some dumb anti moslim jokes but this thing is serious, lives are at stake here.

After the Zamboang seige and rape, Sanbernardino and Bataclan I dont find these things mildly amusing at all even if this is just a discussion on an internet blob.

 

[LionExMachina]

Yes. I don't know what the latest is as I'm on vacation. But I have to go in for an HR briefing on Monday. So I don't know if the guy has been canned or if he's been sent for mental illness therapy/counselling/stress leave or what. He's a landed immigrant but not a citizen yet so not sure if he'll be deported. Quite the trickle-down. I'll know more soon.

Be careful man.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

Did you report him for threatening to kill everyone at work?

 

[Abezal]

This is prevalent in many brown cultures, nothing new bud. Siks Hindus Tamils whatever all partake in the deflowering of cousins.

Inbreeding and medical issues form it are common place, there a reason these guys suck at sports in general.

 

[Bukowski82]

This is prevalent in many brown cultures, nothing new bud. Siks Hindus Tamils whatever all partake in the deflowering of cousins.

Inbreeding and medical issues form it are common place, there a reason these guys suck at sports in general.

Generalities about Brown cultures? lol, you are unbelievable. This has zero to do with race of racial cultures... Stop being so ethnocentric. This is about a religion.