Fightters that were never the same after a loss?

[StewDogg11]

He was done in that corner.
He was absolutely shit after that fight.

You’re making no sense, the fact he was done after this fight is what this thread is about sir. The other fact is if Steele wouldn’t have stopped the fight Chavez literally wouldn’t have had time to throw another punch and Taylor would have won. Go check the scorecards if you don’t believe me.

 

[Skarsgard]

It's true.

One of them ended on the longest target practice extended combination I ever remember seeing*. TJ was teeing off with the kitchen sink of punches and kicks from both stances and Barao was his personal punching bag.

* besides Pat Curran ko Joe Warren

I always had a healthy dislike for Warren, but that stoppage was fucking horrendous.

 

[StonedLemur]

He was done in the corner, he was done in that fight and Steele seen it.

A young lion like Taylor going from top if the world to nowhereville in the span of that fight shows what kind if damage he took in that fight.

I watched it live, he was done, and Steele made the decision he thought was right for the fighter.

You’re making no sense, the fact he was done after this fight is what this thread is about sir. The other fact is if Steele wouldn’t have stopped the fight Chavez literally wouldn’t have had time to throw another punch and Taylor would have won. Go check the scorecards if you don’t believe me.

 

[wh4tttt]

Barao

The two beatings that TJ gave him and headbutting the bathtub during a weight cut between those two losses.

 

[jeff7b9]

If that exact same knockdown occurs in the 11th round or with 90 seconds left in the last round, does the ref stop the fight?

If you answer yes, then it is the right call in theory if you belive the refs decision shouldn't factor the clock.

In theory a KO should be a KO and evaluated the same regardless of the time of the fight where it occurs.

I can also see the argument that he would have survived the remaining 1-2 seconds, as he absolutely would have in the neutral corner era.

It's a crazy one In a million situation that happened to occur in a historic fight and go in favor of the A side guy, making a storybook finish to keep his streak alive.

It will never be resolved and each side is justified in their opinion.

He was done in that corner.
He was absolutely shit after that fight.

You’re making no sense, the fact he was done after this fight is what this thread is about sir. The other fact is if Steele wouldn’t have stopped the fight Chavez literally wouldn’t have had time to throw another punch and Taylor would have won. Go check the scorecards if you don’t believe me.

 

[StewDogg11]

He was done in the corner, he was done in that fight and Steele seen it.

A young lion like Taylor going from top if the world to nowhereville in the span of that fight shows what kind if damage he took in that fight.

I watched it live, he was done, and Steele made the decision he thought was right for the fighter.

So you don’t think it’s a coincidence Richard Steele who was known to be in a shady character like Don King’s pocket made a favorable call for one of King’s fighters? You’re a moron sir. Taylor was literally on his feet and couldn’t take any more damage as there were only 2 seconds left. He knew Chavez was down on the cards and the only way for him to win was to wave off the fight which would allow him to stay on King’s unofficial payroll. Also your grammar is terrible and is borderline unreadable.

 

[Neck&Neck]

CMPunk
Greg Hardy

 

[StonedLemur]

If that exact same knockdown occurs in the 11th round or with 90 seconds left in the last round, does the ref stop the fight?

If you answer yes, then it is the right call in theory if you belive the refs decision shouldn't factor the clock.

In theory a KO should be a KO and evaluated the same regardless of the time of the fight where it occurs.

I can also see the argument that he would have survived the remaining 1-2 seconds, as he absolutely would have in the neutral corner era.

It's a crazy one In a million situation that happened to occur in a historic fight and go in favor of the A side guy, making a storybook finish to keep his streak alive.

It will never be resolved and each side is justified in their opinion.

I seen the fight and have watched it many times since, and I feel like he made the right decision sir.

 

[Emjay]

 

[pick999]

pretty much everyone jon fought

 

[StewDogg11]

Terry Etim was never that good to begin with. He went 1-1 after this fight.

 

[jeff7b9]

I seen the fight and have watched it many times since, and I feel like he made the right decision sir.

I have seen similar scenarios where the ref stopped the fight, so that is an entirely reasonable stance.

That's the thing that makes it drive people insane. It just falls perfectly on the razors edge.

You can 100% argue that the same knockdown, count and response to referee instruction in round 8 equals stoppage.

But...

You could also find plenty of examples where a guy beats the count, is similarly dazed and gets to continue (and probably get pummeled and stopped within 30 seconds).

He was definitely rocked BAD.

I don't think he could have survived another 30 seconds.

I do believe he could have survived another 2 seconds.


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You don't sleep much do ya Lemur?

 

[Foppa21]

And which fighters established themselves and went on to achieve great things after a career defining victory?

Anderson Silva vs Weidmen. Never the same after that kick where he broke his own leg.
Izzy changed as a fighter after beating Silva.
Also Frankie Edgar after beating B.J.

Some great moments.

How did you go about "after a loss" and how Israel changed after beating Anderson?

 

[Foppa21]

Renan Barao
Went from being in GOAT conversations to losing 7 of 9 after Dillashaw loss.

Are you including the loss to the bathtub?

 

[Emjay]

Terry Etim was never that good to begin with. He went 1-1 after this fight.

But outside of fighting he apparently was fucked up after that kick.

 

[jeff7b9]

I always had a healthy dislike for Warren, but that stoppage was fucking horrendous.

I don't enjoy seeing any fighter take that much damage.

Even an arrogant or obnoxious fighter.

(I don't have strong feelings for Joe Warren)

That ref should have had his license pulled permanently that night before he left the cage. That was absurd. Warren turned away at least twice and was held up by the cage and being hit for a long time. If Curran would have just stopped hitting him I think he would have crumbled in a heap.

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

felt like wanderlei lost some prestige and his chin after that Dan Hendo loss.

 

[YUGO]

David Terrell lost completly his desire to fight after Tanner survived his attacks .... you could see how David wanted no longer to fight again.

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

Chuck was never the same after getting knocked out by Rampage. Finished his career after that with a record of 1-6

JDS lost his iron chin after those two fights against Cain. All his losses after that came by knockout

This

 

[Trabaho]

Nobody believe that.. that was just pure ufc hype.

He was the new champ and fought I think just in his national scene, had a huge win loss ratio and they picked it up by saying goat ect to promote their new investment the new division and champ. Turned out to be hot air like Ronda being a once in a lifetime Atheltes and would beat Floyd. Basically Rogan will hype up anyone on his podcast if the UFC tells him too.